JFish350 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Long Story short, Driver used to be the best club in my bag. I have been struggling the last almost 3 years with snap hooks big freaking draws to the point where I would use my 3 or 4 iron to tee off. A few weeks while at the range I decided to choke down on the grip, turn my right foot out just a bit and now my driver has been on fire. I mean I aim and the 90% of the time the ball goes to my indented target and my distance is back if not a little longer. Last week at Bandon I hit probably the longest drive at 380 #8 at Sheep Ranch. We didn't measure it as we all thought I was further right but he ball was dead center of the fairway. Its a dogleg right and the fairway turned more than we thought. I would say my avg distance for the week was closer to 280-290 ish not counting the 380 shot. I am sure there had to be a great kick for it to go that far. Is it possible to get more distance with a shorter shaft? I have a standard shaft length now of 45". MattF, Vegan_Golfer_PNW, GolfSpy BOS and 1 other 4 Quote Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW Sub 70 3 utility 19* Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. OG White Hot #1 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cnosil Posted November 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, JFish350 said: Is it possible to get more distance with a shorter shaft? I have a standard shaft length now of 45". short answer: Yes. Longer answer: Distance is a combination of swing speed and resulting ball speed. Some people swing a shorter shaft faster and some slower, but it you are able to hit the center more reliably you will get higher balls speeds than off a mishit which could result in more distance. JFish350, CrazyGolfNut, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and 8 others 11 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFish350 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, cnosil said: short answer: Yes. Longer answer: Distance is a combination of swing speed and resulting ball speed. Some people swing a shorter shaft faster and some slower, but it you are able to hit the center more reliably you will get higher balls speeds than off a mishit which could result in more distance. This is kinda what I am thinking, better contact in the middle of the face. Its just odd to me that I line the same either chocked down or at the end of the club but I get better contact by chocking down. I am not sure I want to analyze/over think it and just be happy and not change shafts and start that wicked process. PMookie 1 Quote Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW Sub 70 3 utility 19* Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. OG White Hot #1 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twyatt700 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 hours ago, JFish350 said: Long Story short, Driver used to be the best club in my bag. I have been struggling the last almost 3 years with snap hooks big freaking draws to the point where I would use my 3 or 4 iron to tee off. A few weeks while at the range I decided to choke down on the grip, turn my right foot out just a bit and now my driver has been on fire. I mean I aim and the 90% of the time the ball goes to my indented target and my distance is back if not a little longer. Last week at Bandon I hit probably the longest drive at 380 #8 at Sheep Ranch. We didn't measure it as we all thought I was further right but he ball was dead center of the fairway. Its a dogleg right and the fairway turned more than we thought. I would say my avg distance for the week was closer to 280-290 ish not counting the 380 shot. I am sure there had to be a great kick for it to go that far. Is it possible to get more distance with a shorter shaft? I have a standard shaft length now of 45". Yes, mainly because you’ll probably not loose too much speed and if you’re hitting the center of the face more consistently. Also keep in mind at bandon you’re playing on much firmer ground that runs out more than usual. Same thing happened to me, came back to the valley and couldn’t figure out where my distance went…it was swallowed up my the soggy turf lol MattF and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 1 Quote Ping G430 Max 9* turned up to 10* in draw setting X-Stiff Ping Tour Chrome 2.0 60 Srixon ZX 3w Ventus Velocore Blue 7s Ping G425 5w X-Stiff Ping Tour 70 Srixon ZX5 4-6 Modus Tour 105 Stiff Srixon ZX& 7-PW Modus Tour 105 Stiff RTX Zipcore 50* 54* 58* TrueTemper Dynamic Gold Spinner Phantom X5 Putter Ball: Srixon Z-Star Diamond <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 18 hours ago, JFish350 said: This is kinda what I am thinking, better contact in the middle of the face. Its just odd to me that I line the same either chocked down or at the end of the club but I get better contact by chocking down. I am not sure I want to analyze/over think it and just be happy and not change shafts and start that wicked process. That’s the idea of some folks in long drive and in Tour vans. Shorter length, heavier weight, better control, better efficiency and thus longer drives. If you swing a 45 3/4” driver and average 1.42 smash, but average closer to 1.5 with the shorter shaft, you’re delivering more mass more consistently. Golf2Much, fixyurdivot and silver & black 3 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFish350 Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 11 hours ago, twyatt700 said: Yes, mainly because you’ll probably not loose too much speed and if you’re hitting the center of the face more consistently. Also keep in mind at bandon you’re playing on much firmer ground that runs out more than usual. Same thing happened to me, came back to the valley and couldn’t figure out where my distance went…it was swallowed up my the soggy turf lol This is true, courses up here don't get much roll out. Quote Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW Sub 70 3 utility 19* Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. OG White Hot #1 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFish350 Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, PMookie said: That’s the idea of some folks in long drive and in Tour vans. Shorter length, heavier weight, better control, better efficiency and thus longer drives. If you swing a 45 3/4” driver and average 1.42 smash, but average closer to 1.5 with the shorter shaft, you’re delivering more mass more consistently. Very true, I think I'll stay as is for now and see how things shake out with the soggy conditions here in the PNW. On another note, I see you are from W Monroe La. Sorry not trying be a creeper. My son is stationed at Barksdale, we will be there next week for T-day. The weather looks like its going to be nice so we are thinking of brining the clubs. What is a good fairly easier course we can play in the Shreveport area? My son and daughter are newer to golf so I don't want to stress them out on a course. Hope all that makes sense. PMookie 1 Quote Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW Sub 70 3 utility 19* Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. OG White Hot #1 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty19 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Instead of guessing, go and get an honest driver evaluation by a reputable fitter! Spend the $100 instead of $1k on guesses or ruining shafts by chopping them up. Or do like the rest of us junkies and chase! haha. Honestly though- I don't care the length of the driver, I CARE if I can find the sweet-spot more often with whatever length to be more consistent. SUCKS being a tee not knowing where the hell is it going; if only I can hit it ONE time in the screws to carry it however far to get over the hazard. David Quote SIM 9* - Hzdrus RDX Black 70 M1-3HL- Hzdrus RDX Blue 70 Steelhead 7WD RCH99 J15 CB 4-pw C-Taper Lite Equalizer Wedges 50*-54*-58* V- Tour - M3W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 hours ago, JFish350 said: Very true, I think I'll stay as is for now and see how things shake out with the soggy conditions here in the PNW. On another note, I see you are from W Monroe La. Sorry not trying be a creeper. My son is stationed at Barksdale, we will be there next week for T-day. The weather looks like its going to be nice so we are thinking of brining the clubs. What is a good fairly easier course we can play in the Shreveport area? My son and daughter are newer to golf so I don't want to stress them out on a course. Hope all that makes sense. Querbes is a public course in Shreveport. I’ve never played it, but I’ve heard it’s pretty straight forward. Outside of that, I have NO idea. I’ve only played one course over there and it’s a semi-private course. Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroot327 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Yes if it helps you hit the center of the face. I choke up on my driver nearly every tee shot I use it. I'd rather be 280-285 in the fairway, than 300 in the next fairway over. Quote B21 9.5* w/ PX Evenflow Black 6.5 G410 SFT 16* 3-wood w/ PX Evenflow Black 6.5 Stealth DHY 2i w/ Aldila Ascent Black Stiff z585 4-AW w/ Modus3 120x RTX Zipcore Tour Rack Raw 56.12 & 60.10 w/ Modus3 125w Super Select Newport Plus -or- White Hot OG #1WS w/ Stroke Lab ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakman92 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I choke up about an inch on my driver as well. I can hit the middle of the face much more often. I'm losing no more than 5 yards than well hit drive w/o choking up. I don't even think about it anymore unless a playing partner points it out. I wonder if I should just shorten my shaft instead... fixyurdivot and MNUte 2 Quote Epic Max LS 11.5° (10.5°+1) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 stiff Epic Flash 3 Wood 17° (15°+2) w/ Project X Even Flow Green 60 stiff Super Hybrid 21° (20°+1) w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 80 stiff Rogue Hybrid 5 (24°) w/ Aldila Synergy 60 HYB Graphite stiff 2021 P790 Irons 5-AW (1° flat, weakened lofts) w/ Aerotech Steelfiber i95 cw regular CBX2 Wedges 54°, 58° w/ True Temper DG 115 Wedge flex Odyssey White Hot OG #1 Stroke Lab, 33 in Pro V1 Bushnell Launch Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNUte Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, pakman92 said: I choke up about an inch on my driver as well. I can hit the middle of the face much more often. I'm losing no more than 5 yards than well hit drive w/o choking up. I don't even think about it anymore unless a playing partner points it out. I wonder if I should just shorten my shaft instead... No need to shorten it. If you're already choking up you're preferred length subconsciously, you're getting your desired result. Why risk having to reteach yourself your club grip on the shorter shift or limiting future options (e.g. I mainly choke down but for fun occasionally I'll long drive swing it using the full grip length). cnosil and pakman92 2 Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Many pros use a shorter shaft than amateur's. Yes, they have way faster swing speed and can afford to give up whatever additional speed a longer shaft offers... but they don't. I think Paul @PMookie nailed it about using whatever length you can most consistently hit in the center. PMookie 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin2win Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 6:42 AM, MNUte said: No need to shorten it. If you're already choking up you're preferred length subconsciously, you're getting your desired result. Why risk having to reteach yourself your club grip on the shorter shift or limiting future options (e.g. I mainly choke down but for fun occasionally I'll long drive swing it using the full grip length). Nothing of value to add here, but more anecdotal support for shorter can be better. I start to struggle mightily off the tree once I go above the 44.75 length range. But other then length, there are a few things that you should ponder about that change. Choking up does 2 things statically, it lowers your effective swing weight and going an inch of a pretty big swing weight change. So for you, it could just be the swing weight drop is what allows you to synch up better. Maybe you would hit a 48" driver built to that lower swing weight just as straight and even further (it would be hard to get to that weight at that length, but doable). The other thing that shortening (or choking up) does is make the lie angle flatter. Which also might be the reason you are not hitting the big hook. This is the main reason I use a "shorter" driver. So again, maybe a longer driver with a good flat setting might work just as well. Ping has a flat setting on their drivers (I think Titleist does too, can anyone confirm?) to help. And as mentioned, there is no real need to cut the shaft, if choking up is getting you what you need, don't mess with the shaft length, keep it simple and keep hitting fairways. Brooke Henderson crushes it on the LPGA, she plays a 48" driver, but she chokes up 3". MNUte, fixyurdivot and cnosil 3 Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: Gen5 0311 7w Fujikura Motore X F3 Irons: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i Wedges: Zipcore 50°, 58° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Ball: Z-Star Diamond/ Z-Star XV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 ... It is very simple really. Missing the center by 1/4" can lose you 5-7 yds. Most routinely miss the center by 1/2" to 1" and that is a loss of 20-28 yds. So a little extra shaft length can produce a few extra yards IF you hit the center of the face consistently. The trick is finding the length that gives you the most center hits which almost always comes down to trial and error. And that trial and error occurs not on the range or in a fitting but on the course when it counts. You can make adjustments as you hit balls on the range or in a fitting but you only get one swing on the course as well as range/fitting swings don't count and teeing off on the course does. This adds either physical tension, mental trepidation or both. ... I think the vast majority will hit the center more often with a shorter than stock driver length but finding out how short will take time and attention when playing. Choking down is always a better idea then cutting a shaft shorter until you find your ideal length. Thin2win, fixyurdivot and braveheart 3 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakman92 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, chisag said: ... It is very simple really. Missing the center by 1/4" can lose you 5-7 yds. Most routinely miss the center by 1/2" to 1" and that is a loss of 20-28 yds. So a little extra shaft length can produce a few extra yards IF you hit the center of the face consistently. The trick is finding the length that gives you the most center hits which almost always comes down to trial and error. And that trial and error occurs not on the range or in a fitting but on the course when it counts. You can make adjustments as you hit balls on the range or in a fitting but you only get one swing on the course as well as range/fitting swings don't count and teeing off on the course does. This adds either physical tension, mental trepidation or both. ... I think the vast majority will hit the center more often with a shorter than stock driver length but finding out how short will take time and attention when playing. Choking down is always a better idea then cutting a shaft shorter until you find your ideal length. Like I said earlier, I choke up abut 1 inch (out of habit at this point). I am able to find the center of the face better this way like chisag said. I just wanted to throw in one more thing that's help me find the center of the face. Right shaft. I can't tell you why, but, same head, same flex but different shaft greatly impact center strike for me. I'm not consistent enough to determine whether the shaft is right for me with 10-20 strikes. I would need 100+ with a shaft to see a pattern emerge include whether I'm striking it more consistently in the center. I'm always trying new shafts. There is a used market for Callaway optifit shafts of all kinds which allow me to do this fairly cheaply. I've also found that some time even shaft that is same model and flex will perform differently. My 2 cents on how to strike the center better. (In addition to good swing mechanics which goes w/o saying) MNUte and fixyurdivot 2 Quote Epic Max LS 11.5° (10.5°+1) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 stiff Epic Flash 3 Wood 17° (15°+2) w/ Project X Even Flow Green 60 stiff Super Hybrid 21° (20°+1) w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 80 stiff Rogue Hybrid 5 (24°) w/ Aldila Synergy 60 HYB Graphite stiff 2021 P790 Irons 5-AW (1° flat, weakened lofts) w/ Aerotech Steelfiber i95 cw regular CBX2 Wedges 54°, 58° w/ True Temper DG 115 Wedge flex Odyssey White Hot OG #1 Stroke Lab, 33 in Pro V1 Bushnell Launch Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywong23 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 prove it to yourself scientifically get some adhesive clubface "label" that shows an imprint of where you contact the ball. or the Dr. Scholl's foot spray powder..... then record the distances with sweet spot hits vs. off center.... as well as frequency of hits in the center with choked grip vs. regular length. ===================================== as someone else mentioned: get fitted. try different length, flex, kickpoint shafts.... finetune even more Quote Titleist 915 D2 beryllium Ping eye2 Vokey wedges Odessey 2 ball putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTVMAN Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Yes. Many PGA Tour Pro's use a 44"-45.5" shaft. I was fitted at the PGA Show by Ping with -1" off the Ping Tour shaft. But from time to time when I'm not hitting the driver well I switch to my 17.5° 5-wood set at 16°. I play on several senior leagues and still out drive everyone with the 5-wood. It's all about hitting the sweet spot. fixyurdivot 1 Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Fujikura Ventus TR Ping G425 Max 5-7-9 Fairway Woods w/Ping Alta CB Ping G425 Irons 5-U w/Ping Alta CB (Power-Spec Lofts) Ping 4.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap Ping Redwood ZB Putter w/PP58 PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Wrap Mid-Size Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinnman Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 This is why I went to the TM Mini 300. My foursome partners were shocked at not only how much longer I was but much more accurate. I have to be hitting the sweet spot better as well as getting more club head speed. Longer isn’t necessarily better….that’s what she said too. Quote Driver: Cobra Aerojet 9* Ventus Red 5S shaft 3W: Cobra Aerojet Max Cobra LTDx 3H-5H 7-PW Callaway Rogue ST Max Elevate 85 steel shafts Wedges: Cleveland CBX zipcore steel 46*, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Odyssey Tri-hot 5K Rossie Ball: Titleist ProV1 or AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therod Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I still play a 44" driver and have no plans to go longer. I played a few rounds in Tucson last week and hit a few balls over 300 yds. I'll be getting my 1st brand new driver in over 10 years very soon, and it'll be 44". That's what I'm comfortable hitting and that's what I hit well most consistently. A longer shaft would obviously give me yards when struck well. But I don't know how often I'd catch it that well. I'll stick with my 44". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONEPUTT Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 There is a website by an instructor that teaches his students to use shorter shaft driver and how it can mean more yardage and more fairways hit. A few years ago I built a 3 irons to a 7 iron length to see what would happen. What I found was that I lost about 5 yards with the shorter 3 iron, but I was hititng it a good bit straigher. And after a bit to get used to the shorter club, I was on AVERAGE, not losing much at all. Longest shots WERE shorter, but my average was not much shorter at all. Just better ball striking and less off-line with the shorter shaft. So I ended up builting an entire set of irons with 1/4" between clubs instead of the usual 12". I started with the standard 9 iron length of 36" and than added 1/4" per club instead of the normal 1/2". What little distance I lose now on my best shots are made up for with more consistant ball striking and more accuracy with all of my iron shots. chisag and IndyBonzo 2 Quote All my clubs are custom built with aftermarket shafts that have been spine and FLO aligned for max performance every swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPS111 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I'm retired AF and was sent to Barksdale for six weeks of classes at the old SAC NCO Academy. I don't know about other courses in the area but there is a golf course on base and I've played it. Look it up or see if your son can send some information. He should be able to get you on base to play it. Quote GPS111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheart Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I will agree with the shorter shaft being easier to hit the center or sweet spot. Another thing to take in account is the the type of swing you have. If you are of the variety that has a long, languid swing then usually you can handle the longer club length. If you have a short, quick backswing and an aggressive transition like myself, then the shorter club length usually works better. At least that has been found in my experimentation. If it works choking up, then don’t change the club. Find an inexpensive shorter one from the past and mess around. It can be a fun winter project. Merlin1313 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Reviving an old thread just to say that I'm going to tinker with this. My driving struggles are well-documented on various threads on this Forum. I just ordered a 50g Riptide CB shaft that was taken from a Cobra FW to use in my Cobra Rad Speed driver. I'm hoping that this will accomplish two things for me. The first, as is the common theme of this thread, is that I hope to make better centered contact more consistently with the short shaft. The second, though, is tied to my Stack System training. In the Stack statistics, you can not only see your speed with differing weights, but you can see (on a percentile basis) how you compare in speed to others in your demographic. So in an absolute mph sense, I swing lighter weights faster than heavier, which is obvious. But in a relative sense, I'm in the 90–95 percentile of speed for lighter weights, and that drops to 70–75 percentile for the heavier weights. So swapping out my driver shaft with a very light, counter-balanced shaft like the Riptide CB should allow me to swing fast and (ideally) also hit the center of the face more regularly. Logically, this is sound, we'll see if the experiment works in practice. Stay tuned... IndyBonzo, Merlin1313, chisag and 2 others 4 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richk9holes Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I'm curious here. I hit my 17° 4w further than my driver often. The one thought I had to explain it is 43' might be the optimal length for me to boom smash the ball. My driver is 45" if I'm not mistaken. I wonder how it would do at 43.5" but don't want to cut my MCA tensei shaft on a whim. Javs and GolfSpy MPR 2 Quote Finding a way to turn birdies into bogeys since 1992. #TeamChunks '23 Forum Tester: Elixir Golf Ball WITB:TS2 10.5° @ 11.25° Tensei blue AV 55 R graph•917f2 15° @ 16.5° Diamana blue x5ct dialed 70 R graph•Stealth 22° Ventus red 6 (non-velo) R graph• 699u 2i 17° tgi 70 R graph•24° Tour v 90 black pvd R steel•699 6i-PW Tour 110 black pvd R steel• SM8 50°/08° @ 52°/10° SM8 stock steel• Jaws Full Toe 56°/12° DG Spinner TI steel • c series DW 2.0 slant neck stock steel•Phantom 2 gps•Tour v3 rangefinder•Elixir golf ball• Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraga.Mike Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Did you get fitted for this shaft? For someone that has bought clubs both fitted and unfitted, would think a fitting would be a necessity for a shaft. Quote Callaway rogue driver Ping G400 FW, 3h, 4h Callaway Mavrik irons callaway jaws 50, 56, 60 wedges Odyssey putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CbusGolf Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Richk9holes, not to be stupid, but I’ve often wondered if choking down would accomplish the same thing with having to cut the shaft? Have you tried that? GolfSpy MPR and MattF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, richk9holes said: I'm curious here. I hit my 17° 4w further than my driver often. The one thought I had to explain it is 43' might be the optimal length for me to boom smash the ball. My driver is 45" if I'm not mistaken. I wonder how it would do at 43.5" but don't want to cut my MCA tensei shaft on a whim. It's hard to know definitively from this information alone. It could be shaft length (as a proxy for centered content, which leads to increased ball speed). It could also be angle of attack and/or swing speed. From your signature, it appears you already use a fairly high lofted driver. But if you're often carrying your 17° FW further than your driver, it may mean that based on other aspects of your delivery, you simply need a significant amount of loft to keep the ball in the air. Again, I'm just spitballing. I think you're right to hesitate before doing club surgery. As others have suggested: the better place to start is to do some testing (either on a LM or on course) by choking down an inch or two and seeing what that does to your results. IndyBonzo and Moraga.Mike 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richk9holes Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Yes, I'm excited to see someone else try a shorter driver so I can do it vicariously. For gripping down, that might work but I like the feel of the texture in my Iomic grip that's on the driver. It has an X pattern that feels way more comfortable if you have the cap where it should be. GolfSpy MPR and IndyBonzo 2 Quote Finding a way to turn birdies into bogeys since 1992. #TeamChunks '23 Forum Tester: Elixir Golf Ball WITB:TS2 10.5° @ 11.25° Tensei blue AV 55 R graph•917f2 15° @ 16.5° Diamana blue x5ct dialed 70 R graph•Stealth 22° Ventus red 6 (non-velo) R graph• 699u 2i 17° tgi 70 R graph•24° Tour v 90 black pvd R steel•699 6i-PW Tour 110 black pvd R steel• SM8 50°/08° @ 52°/10° SM8 stock steel• Jaws Full Toe 56°/12° DG Spinner TI steel • c series DW 2.0 slant neck stock steel•Phantom 2 gps•Tour v3 rangefinder•Elixir golf ball• Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richk9holes Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I think later today I'll practice with the driver at A4 setting (12° standard lie). Only +.75 from the current setting, but maybe there's something to the added loft getting the optimal trajectory. IndyBonzo 1 Quote Finding a way to turn birdies into bogeys since 1992. #TeamChunks '23 Forum Tester: Elixir Golf Ball WITB:TS2 10.5° @ 11.25° Tensei blue AV 55 R graph•917f2 15° @ 16.5° Diamana blue x5ct dialed 70 R graph•Stealth 22° Ventus red 6 (non-velo) R graph• 699u 2i 17° tgi 70 R graph•24° Tour v 90 black pvd R steel•699 6i-PW Tour 110 black pvd R steel• SM8 50°/08° @ 52°/10° SM8 stock steel• Jaws Full Toe 56°/12° DG Spinner TI steel • c series DW 2.0 slant neck stock steel•Phantom 2 gps•Tour v3 rangefinder•Elixir golf ball• Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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