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So @Thin2win, and in no way am I suggesting these balls because we seemingly have similar swing characteristics and I want to see how they preform myself 😉, I put forth the following potential 8th and 9th ball

Snell MTB (you mentioned it earlier if I recall)

Wilson Staff Model ( might be hard to find, but a good performer for a firmer ball from the test)

If either of those are too hard to find, then V1X

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In a :ping-small: Hoofer Lite bag

 :mizuno-small: ST180, 10.5, Kuro Kage Silver TINI Dual Core 60-S 

:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero, 15*, Kuro Kage Silver TINI Dual Core 60-S 

:755178188_TourEdge: CBX119 18* Hybrid, Project X Evenflow Blue, 6.0

:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex

:taylormade-small: Hi Toe Raw 48* (bent from 50*), 53* (bent from 54*), and 58*, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex

 SIK Golf Flo-C

:titelist-small: Pro V1X, 2021 Model, #33

 

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On 11/23/2021 at 6:20 AM, fixyurdivot said:

I shot last years best round and this years best round with a Velocity... this years with a matte finish orange (did you hear that @Tony Covey MGS)?  😆 Just throwing that out there for what its worth 🙂.  I don't typically use that ball but have several, and one seems to find its way into my pre-round practice ball cache.  Occasionally I just opt to put one in play. 

 

2 hours ago, Thin2win said:

Hello all, happy Thanksgiving! Thanks for playing along with this event.

I wanted to let you know that I have made a small format change to this, mostly because you all are too smart.

I will not be hitting the CSXLS in the next round, I will use 3 new untested balls.

The CSXLS will be moving into the Semi-Finals. I will continue this testing process with 3 balls for 3 more rounds. Testing 12 total balls. That testing will find 4 group winners. I will then match those group winners up 1v1 in the semi finals, to get me to the final 2 balls to rule them all. 

Balls still to test: Maxfli Tour, Srixon Z-Star, TP5x, ProV1, Vice Pro, CSX, Velocity( @fixyurdivot), ....... 2x?

So, to take my bias out a little more, Im going to add the 2 more suggested balls to the test. So whatever else you think I should test, let me know and I will take the 2 top suggestions and put them in too(assuming I can get them easily enough). Q-Star? ProV1x? Wilson Duo? Dunlop Power TI explosion mach V laser bomb? 

So 6 more rounds to crown a winner, fill out your brackets now, this might take the world by storm and replace March Madness as the best bracket contest out there.

Also, I have a sleeve each of the losing BX and BXS to send out. If you would like either sleeve, chime in. I'll use some random wizardry to see who gets them. 

I hope you both have a wonderful Thanksgiving and looking forward to playing again together next year.

Bill, having played the Velocity I found the distance off the tee was very good, but it didn't do anything for me after that.  Martha played in a charity tournament for the local VA a couple of months ago and was given a sleeve of Callaway Warbird 2.0 (not the original Warbird which has a soft core) with their logo on it... appropriate!  I found this ball to be just as good, maybe better, off the tee as the Velocity and it surprisingly had decent spin around the green.  Not PV1-like but it stopped much faster than any other 2-piece ball I've tried.  What I liked most about it was that ball trajectory was much higher for my meager swing.

Chris, if you want to give it a try, I'll mail you a sleeve; the 2.0 is somewhat difficult to find... around $18/dozen, but much higher at some places... like Amazon!!

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Strictly a personnal thought when you are chasing 1 to 2 yds off a club as an ametuer it's called a lot of free time on your hands. Cold weather a little softer ball, warm weather firm it up some. The one you can consistently hit the straightest, has a feel you like and has the spin you like is the ball or balls to use.

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Sonnova nutcracker, man! I can't believe 1 was an X LS!! I *loved* that ball in my own testing, I just wish the cover didn't shred after 3 holes. The new version fixed this, but it won't be out for a bit... 🤷🏼‍♂️

Would love to see a Tour Speed (esp after the MGS staff just raved about it) or Tour Response thrown in. I think they'd be reasonably easy to identify, but maybe that would make for all the more fun!

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Driver: :cobra-small: RADspeed 9* with Motore X F1 60S
Fun driver: :srixon-small: ZX5 9.5* with 47" Tensei CK White 60S
3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff

4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S
50*, 54* :cleveland-small: RTX ZipCore Modus3 Tour 115
60* :cleveland-small: RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400
Putter: :cleveland-small: HB Soft Premier 11s, :callaway-small: Toulon Chicago

Ball: Maxfli Tour, ProV1, or TP5x
Bag: :ping-small: Hoofer (2018) in black/white/copper

Using :ShotScope: to keep track of my shots
:SuperSpeed: and Fit for Golf 

Tested:
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The field might get expanded past 12...20211124_144304.jpg.94bf8e82e76a539fb9e7bf0b744f1fde.jpg

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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Heck yeah- keep adding so I can live vicariously thru you on your adventures... lol

 

 

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:taylormade-small: M1-3HL- Hzdrus RDX Blue 70

:callaway-small:     Steelhead 7WD RCH99

:bridgestone-small: J15 CB 4-pw C-Taper Lite

:benhogan-small:Equalizer Wedges 50*-54*-58* V- Tour

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1 hour ago, Thin2win said:

The field might get expanded past 12...20211124_144304.jpg.94bf8e82e76a539fb9e7bf0b744f1fde.jpg

Chris vs. MGS' Ball Lab Swing Robot 👍 😆.

Rock Em Sock Em GIFs | Tenor

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:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

 

 

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I'm much better looking than that robot. But it hits a more consistent shot than I do, that's for sure. 

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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I was informed today of Srixon coming out with a Z-Star Diamond ball later this year that will always curve towards the center of the fairway and the alignment line on it automatically adjusts for the break on the green to guide you in every time.

Which will have to compete with the Wilson Triad(?) I also heard is coming out with self cleaning technology.

 

* the above balls are something I did hear about, the abilities I entirely made up.

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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I am personally a big fan of the Z Star XV and Snell MTB-X so those would be my suggestions. I also haven’t hit the most recent version of the BXS so if you’re looking to get rid of them, I am interested!

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10 minutes ago, Londo said:

I also haven’t hit the most recent version of the BXS so if you’re looking to get rid of them, I am interested!

Do you want the full sleeve? Or want to wait and build a combo sleeve with some of the other eliminated contenders? 

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Berg Ryman said:

I put forth the following potential 8th and 9th ball

Snell MTB (you mentioned it earlier if I recall)

I'll put in another vote for MTB to be added.

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I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver

:titelist-small: - TSi2 10.5 Driver - Tensei AV Raw Blue 55 R

:titelist-small: - TS2 4W - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6 RS TS2 7W - Alta CB 65 R

:cobra-small:- Baffler 23* - Aldila NV-HL 65 R

th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg - Original Series 0211 - 5-PW - MMT 80 S

:cleveland-small: - CBX2 50 / 54 / 58 - Rotex

image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png - Directed Force 2.1 (Nickel) - KBS Tour - Press No. II 3*

:Snell:- MTB  Black

datrek-brand_1456761019__86876.original.jpg.7c24f9ae71c7730ce29a828226731487.jpg - DG Lite II cart bag attached via Top-Lok to image.png.77fe07cbfea697deca64bd4a4263a151.png - Quad XL and Tracked by :ShotScope: - V3

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Turkey Day Wedge Shots. I added some shorter shots as well. I'm adding the average club head data for the shots, if you really want club head for every shot, I can give it, but that seems like too much number stuff to look at.

 

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Ball# 1 RED

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Ball #2 Green

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Ball #3 Blue

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15y ish shots for some added perspective, used my 52° wedge, so not going to be the spinniest

Inked15 comp_LI.jpg

Ball #1 Red

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Ball #2 Green

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Ball #3 Blue

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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It'll be interesting to see how the Q Star Divide, Velocity, Vice, and Noodle will perform. I was going to suggest the Z Star XV, but I see you've already got a sleeve of those to test. Since you've got those, I'll add another vote for the Snell MTB X. 

Keep it up! I'm really enjoying following along and can't wait to see who emerges from the bracket as the victor. 

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On 11/25/2021 at 4:47 PM, Thin2win said:

 

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Inked15 comp_LI.jpg

 

The Blue one seems pretty straightforward that it's just a low-spin ball. Low-spin core, low-spin cover. Knee-jerk on that would be Noodle or Velocity, especially given the high launch angle. In any case, I don't think there's any scenario where that mid-iron and driver data is going to redeem the short-game data here. Sorry #3...

Ball #2 is a little trickier. The data are pretty noisy, especially with the short chip. Pretty comparable to #1 on full swing, but hard to really make a determination until iron and driver data are released. If you forced me to decide right now, I'd wonder if #2 was a Q-Star Tour Divide. But that's on the assumption that #1 is a Tour-level ball...

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Driver: :cobra-small: RADspeed 9* with Motore X F1 60S
Fun driver: :srixon-small: ZX5 9.5* with 47" Tensei CK White 60S
3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff

4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S
50*, 54* :cleveland-small: RTX ZipCore Modus3 Tour 115
60* :cleveland-small: RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400
Putter: :cleveland-small: HB Soft Premier 11s, :callaway-small: Toulon Chicago

Ball: Maxfli Tour, ProV1, or TP5x
Bag: :ping-small: Hoofer (2018) in black/white/copper

Using :ShotScope: to keep track of my shots
:SuperSpeed: and Fit for Golf 

Tested:
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review
:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review
:ShotScope:
 V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review

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No rest for the bored, here is the 7i data, I keep looking to make this cleaner, I'll figure it out at some point.

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Ball #1 Red

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Ball #2 Green

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And Ball #3 Blue:2111474379_v7i.png.15a385c4b7d29d805f55dff557c88905.png

For transparency, 20 shots each was just too many for me. So I hit 1 sleeve of each ball, and rotated back and forth through them hitting a total of 9 shots with each ball(or 3 sleeves), I kept the best 6 shots with each ball so that the averages would be even, but I really only needed to kick out 2 bad hits for the batch of 27 shots. The rest were fine, just splitting hairs to get the best averages.

 

Cheers all.

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Thin2win said:

No rest for the bored, here is the 7i data, I keep looking to make this cleaner, I'll figure it out at some point.

1898061971_7iBallComp.PNG.c2e64be5b1d1029ed8bc5986f4bfa938.PNG

1099141957_7iClubComp.PNG.8c5ad3be259c4b31cb03f40b80f61af9.PNG

Ball #1 Red

1408383000_zv7i.PNG.035f06eb36e3ca00cfe85425084b616e.PNG

Ball #2 Green

1772798013_mx7i.png.aade43895da59eb829f4ecbe8fcec382.png

And Ball #3 Blue:2111474379_v7i.png.15a385c4b7d29d805f55dff557c88905.png

For transparency, 20 shots each was just too many for me. So I hit 1 sleeve of each ball, and rotated back and forth through them hitting a total of 9 shots with each ball(or 3 sleeves), I kept the best 6 shots with each ball so that the averages would be even, but I really only needed to kick out 2 bad hits for the batch of 27 shots. The rest were fine, just splitting hairs to get the best averages.

 

Cheers all.

Ball data aside, anyone else noticing the crazy good consistency?  That's some excellent ball striking Chris 👏.  

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:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

 

 

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47 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Ball data aside, anyone else noticing the crazy good consistency?  That's some excellent ball striking Chris 👏.  

You told me I had to compete with that robot. But thanks, making the switch from draw to fade this last year has definitely increased my consistency. 

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Thin2win said:

You told me I had to compete with that robot. But thanks, making the switch from draw to fade this last year has definitely increased my consistency. 

That's a bummer.  I'm going to miss watching that high draw 😥.  

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:ping-small: G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver 

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w

:ping-small: G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w

:srixon-small:  ZX5 Irons 4-AW 

:ping-small: Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW   (removed from double secret probation 😍)

:EVNROLL: ER5v Putter  (Evnroll ER5v Official Review)

 

 

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9 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Ball data aside, anyone else noticing the crazy good consistency?  That's some excellent ball striking Chris 👏.  

I was about to say. Those standard devs are NUTS. Well done!

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Driver: :cobra-small: RADspeed 9* with Motore X F1 60S
Fun driver: :srixon-small: ZX5 9.5* with 47" Tensei CK White 60S
3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff

4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S
50*, 54* :cleveland-small: RTX ZipCore Modus3 Tour 115
60* :cleveland-small: RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400
Putter: :cleveland-small: HB Soft Premier 11s, :callaway-small: Toulon Chicago

Ball: Maxfli Tour, ProV1, or TP5x
Bag: :ping-small: Hoofer (2018) in black/white/copper

Using :ShotScope: to keep track of my shots
:SuperSpeed: and Fit for Golf 

Tested:
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review
:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review
:ShotScope:
 V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review

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