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I hit the d9 and the pxg 0211 as well as a few others. The only one that even tempted me was the 0211. It was way longer than the d9 and better dispersion. May be different for you, but thought I'd at least throw it out there for thought. 

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First of all, your wife is a keeper.  Second, I also am gaming a PXG (Gen 2 0811 XF) and I LOVE it!  Do yourself a favor and at least find a PXG store or a used one at Superstore or something and give it a swing.

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Hit a boatload of drivers. The first 5 or 6 were all very similar. I really liked the C721, but I had researched it and just wanted to like it to begin with. Then I hit a TSI3. And the ball went 20 more yards after I put the stock red ventus in it. Ball after ball went 20 more yards than anything else I hit. Going to have to be a wise eBay shopper to save money. Crazy expensive but crazy good.

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6 minutes ago, therod said:

Hit a boatload of drivers. The first 5 or 6 were all very similar. I really liked the C721, but I had researched it and just wanted to like it to begin with. Then I hit a TSI3. And the ball went 20 more yards after I put the stock red ventus in it. Ball after ball went 20 more yards than anything else I hit. Going to have to be a wise eBay shopper to save money. Crazy expensive but crazy good.

Sounds like you got to try a lot of options and found a great fitting club.   I personally wouldn't refer to the ventus red as "stock" as it is a $345 upgrade from Titleist.   

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25 minutes ago, therod said:

Hit a boatload of drivers. The first 5 or 6 were all very similar. I really liked the C721, but I had researched it and just wanted to like it to begin with. Then I hit a TSI3. And the ball went 20 more yards after I put the stock red ventus in it. Ball after ball went 20 more yards than anything else I hit. Going to have to be a wise eBay shopper to save money. Crazy expensive but crazy good.

Why did it go 20 yards further?

Was that carry or total yards?

Did you try various shafts in each of the other drivers? 

 

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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I didn't try other shafts in other drivers. I just felt confident, knowing my game and my swing, that the HZRDUS that was in the Titleist wasn't for me. What I would like 2 find out is how much, if any, difference is there in distance in the TSI3 vs the TSI2 if all other variables are the same. It seems the TSI2 is the more forgiving option, but is there a distance loss to get that forgiveness? I might investigate that since I can get a TSI2 for a good bit less than a TSI3.

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42 minutes ago, therod said:

I didn't try other shafts in other drivers. I just felt confident, knowing my game and my swing, that the HZRDUS that was in the Titleist wasn't for me. What I would like 2 find out is how much, if any, difference is there in distance in the TSI3 vs the TSI2 if all other variables are the same. It seems the TSI2 is the more forgiving option, but is there a distance loss to get that forgiveness? I might investigate that since I can get a TSI2 for a good bit less than a TSI3.

You have to define what forgiveness means and how you will measure it. 

Do you have the launch monitor numbers for each setup you hit? That would be ball speed, launch, spin, peak height/apex, land/descent angle, carry yards, standard deviation?

To determine what’s really best and most forgiving and/or what works better for you all those numbers come into play. Unless you just want the driver that goes furthest on carry regardless of how it gets there.

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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4 hours ago, therod said:

there in distance in the TSI3 vs the TSI2 if all other variables are the same. It seems the TSI2 is the more forgiving option, but is there a distance loss to get that forgiveness?

What variables? 

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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If you haven't include the PXG 0811 Gen 4 driver in your options, you are missing the boat.  It is 299 right now with a "stock" shaft. The most expensive upgrade is $300.

You won't be able to hit it in a golf store naturally, but you should be able to find a location near you with a PXG fitting.  (pxg website can direct you)

 

Also, I am assuming by stock Ventus Red you meant the non velocore version?

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On 11/22/2021 at 1:39 PM, therod said:

For my birthday a few weeks ago, my wife told me to get a new driver. She told me I could go to Club Champion if I wanted. I think I would rather go to the local PGA Superstore and hit everything they have. I'm a lefty, so that will narrow the field quite a bit. I did a truegolffit a few weeks ago, and it put me in a Wilson D9, with a TSI1 as the 2nd choice. I would also really like to tit the new Cleveland Launcher XL and the Exotics C721. And I'll see what else they have. I also have a brand new Evenflow Max shaft that hasn't even had a tip on it yet waiting for me to give it a shot. Needless to say, fun times ahead!

Your wife is truly an incredible and understanding person. May she be a true inspiration to all wives out there. 
 

Best of luck with your search for the perfect driver. 👍⛳🏌️♂️

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On 11/25/2021 at 9:33 AM, therod said:

Hit a boatload of drivers. The first 5 or 6 were all very similar. I really liked the C721, but I had researched it and just wanted to like it to begin with. Then I hit a TSI3. And the ball went 20 more yards after I put the stock red ventus in it. Ball after ball went 20 more yards than anything else I hit. Going to have to be a wise eBay shopper to save money. Crazy expensive but crazy good.

Buy what works the best.  Spare no expense.  Your wife already approved the budget item.

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2 hours ago, Glfaholic said:

If you haven't include the PXG 0811 Gen 4 driver in your options, you are missing the boat.  It is 299 right now with a "stock" shaft. The most expensive upgrade is $300.

You won't be able to hit it in a golf store naturally, but you should be able to find a location near you with a PXG fitting.  (pxg website can direct you)

 

Also, I am assuming by stock Ventus Red you meant the non velocore version?

Titleist doesn’t have a non velocore version. 

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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I bought the PGX 0811x Prototype really like it, stock Evenflow shaft, my son tried it and bought one for $229 on their website. I agree that you should take a look. You can spend twice as much from the big companies if you want and not get a better driver.  $500-$700 for a new driver is too much for me.

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Fully agree, hit as many as you can get your hands on. Even superseded models if they have them. I game a Callaway Epic Flash and at the time I tested Mavrik, Sim, Cobra Speedzone, Ping 4??, Mizuno, Srixon etc. I have since also tested Epic Speed and Cobra Rad but none feel as good as the Epic Flash. 

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Here is the difference between big box stores and Club Champion. Although a driver from Club Champion has additional costs, you will probably get the correct one you require at CC. Head, shaft, & grip will be correct. Not all fitters at CC are PGA certified, but they have been trained well and understand fitting very well. They are also familiar with shafts and what to expect in performance. I'm certified and have worked for a major retailer, however, I had to spend my own dime to learn and become a certified fitter. I went to the factories on my own dime and learned at Ping, Callaway, Titleist, and Taylor Made, plus visiting shaft and putter manufacturers. BUT, most employees of the big box stores have just left McDonald's, have no experience, learn from one minute videos, and are told by the manager to just sell anything to anyone...because the customer is too dumb to know any difference! Go to Club Champion. Buy your balls, tees, and gloves at a big box store.

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On 11/25/2021 at 9:33 AM, therod said:

Hit a boatload of drivers. The first 5 or 6 were all very similar. I really liked the C721, but I had researched it and just wanted to like it to begin with. Then I hit a TSI3. And the ball went 20 more yards after I put the stock red ventus in it. Ball after ball went 20 more yards than anything else I hit. Going to have to be a wise eBay shopper to save money. Crazy expensive but crazy good.

You got to heart of the matter. The head by itself is not the answer. The head and shaft combination is what works or doesn't. Thanks for mentioning the shaft.

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