HAC Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I mean an actual in person golf ball fitting. If so, where and did you find it helpful? 1 Quote Sim 2 Driver Fujikura Ventus Blue 6R shaft Sim 2 5 wood Fujikura Ventus Blue 5R shaft 0311 Gen 5 Seven Wood Project X Cypher 50 5.5 shaft set to flat with weights set to fade. H818 Hybrid 25 degrees Tensei ck Series 60 HY regular flex shafts at C4 setting (flat for lefties) 718 AP1 irons 6-gap Tensei ck Series AMC IR regular flex bent two degrees flat SM 7 Wedge 58 degrees M grind with 8 bounce Steel shafts wedge flex bent 2 degrees flat Glide 3 52.12 and 56.14 with Alta CB Red Regular Flex shaft bent 2 degrees flat Go back and forth between Select Newport 2 putter 34 inch length and Sigma G Tyne putter 33 inch length Pro V1 although I use Maxfli Tours during the offseason and other days when I am not playing well and don't want to lose Pro V1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I haven't, and I can't imagine why I would? Unlike clubs, balls are a small investment, so it's easy enough to narrow the choices based on my swing speed/distances and wants (e.g. spin vs distance), budget - and just buy and try them. [There are ball fitting guides online] I've found almost every ball I'd ever want to try as well, so I try them all, side by side even, without spending any more. To be specific, in the past 4-5 years I've bought Pro V1s (about once a year), Snell MTB/X and MaxFli Tours, but I have also found and repeatedly tried out all the tour balls from Callaway, TaylorMade, Bridgestone, Srixon, Mizuno, Vice and Wilson. And I don't actually look for lost balls, just find them while looking for mine or other players usually. And I suspect many people would be fit to a Pro V1/V1X if price was no object. But not everyone wants to spend $50/box... If I didn't restrict my budget I'd never play anything but Pro V1s. But I find Snell MTBs and MaxFli Tours perform just as well, just as durable (just not quite as consistent per Ball Lab), for $26-35/dozen. YMMV Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 TSR w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 w MCC+4 Midsize Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec w P2 Touch Tour Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, HAC said: I mean an actual in person golf ball fitting. If so, where and did you find it helpful? I have done a couple of Bridgestone in person fittings; they were done over 10 years ago and wee really just an extension of the online fitting since there wasn’t any kind of launch monitor. Having seen the Titleist fitting that MGS recently did I am kicking myself for not going as it did what I think needs to be done in a ball fitting. Basically same strategy as what @Middleris saying, but having someone that can actually interpret the shots better than I can would be valuable. I currently don’t have a ball that I exclusively play and play a wide variety of models and brands; nothing seems readily different between any of them which is why I haven’t locked down to a single ball. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: mFGP2 Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: I currently don’t have a ball that I exclusively play and play a wide variety of models and brands; nothing seems readily different between any of them which is why I haven’t locked down to a single ball. I would agree with that. Most of the tour balls aren't wildly different, subtle differences in spin-trajectory-distance, durability and (unseen) quality/consistency. I can play anything with decent spin (always urethane) as long as it isn't soft (hate all of them). Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 TSR w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 w MCC+4 Midsize Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec w P2 Touch Tour Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Middler said: I haven't, and I can't imagine why I would? Unlike clubs, balls are a small investment, so it's easy enough to narrow the choices based on my swing speed/distances and wants (e.g. spin vs distance), budget - and just buy and try them. [There are ball fitting guides online] I've found almost every ball I'd ever want to try as well, so I try them all, side by side even, without spending any more. To be specific, in the past 4-5 years I've bought Pro V1s (about once a year), Snell MTB/X and MaxFli Tours, but I have also found and repeatedly tried out all the tour balls from Callaway, TaylorMade, Bridgestone, Srixon, Mizuno, Vice and Wilson. And I don't actually look for lost balls, just find them while looking for mine or other players usually. And I suspect many people would be fit to a Pro V1/V1X if price was no object. But not everyone wants to spend $50/box... If I didn't restrict my budget I'd never play anything but Pro V1s. But I find Snell MTBs and MaxFli Tours perform just as well, just as durable (just not quite as consistent per Ball Lab), for $26-35/dozen. YMMV 2 hours ago, cnosil said: I have done a couple of Bridgestone in person fittings; they were done over 10 years ago and wee really just an extension of the online fitting since there wasn’t any kind of launch monitor. Having seen the Titleist fitting that MGS recently did I am kicking myself for not going as it did what I think needs to be done in a ball fitting. Basically same strategy as what @Middleris saying, but having someone that can actually interpret the shots better than I can would be valuable. I currently don’t have a ball that I exclusively play and play a wide variety of models and brands; nothing seems readily different between any of them which is why I haven’t locked down to a single ball. This is interesting. Are you both saying you can't tell a difference between the different balls or just that in the end it doesn't really matter? For whatever reason I can tell the difference immediately. Mostly based on launch window, height and of course feel. 2 Quote SIM 9.5* (GD XC 6X) SIM 15* (GD DI 7X) 3 DHY (GD DI HY8X) ZX7 4-PW (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM8 49 08 F ( KBS 610) Vokey SM8 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM8 59 04 L (KBS 610) Special Select SquareBack 2 33" ProV1 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said: This is interesting. Are you both saying you can't tell a difference between the different balls or just that in the end it doesn't really matter? For whatever reason I can tell the difference immediately. Mostly based on launch window, height and of course feel. I can’t really tell the difference. Maybe they launch a little differently. Iron shots get about the same amount if rollout. Pitches and chips are close as well. It could very well be that I just don’t have enough knowledge to test properly. I could go to MGS and use the launch monitor to get numbers, but how does that translate to improved play? Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: mFGP2 Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: I can’t really tell the difference. Maybe they launch a little differently. Iron shots get about the same amount if rollout. Pitches and chips are close as well. It could very well be that I just don’t have enough knowledge to test properly. I could go to MGS and use the launch monitor to get numbers, but how does that translate to improved play? I would agree testing balls in practice with LM is not the best idea as there are just too many variables not accounted for. Quote SIM 9.5* (GD XC 6X) SIM 15* (GD DI 7X) 3 DHY (GD DI HY8X) ZX7 4-PW (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM8 49 08 F ( KBS 610) Vokey SM8 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM8 59 04 L (KBS 610) Special Select SquareBack 2 33" ProV1 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I wished that MGS had done the recent Titleist fitting with at least as many higher handicaps as they did with scratch and + handicaps. Maybe they didn't because it wouldn't give clear-cut results. While I am a borderline single digit handicap, my swing speed is slow and generally speaking, most balls give similar distance off the tee and 7i; around the green there is a huge difference. I can tell the difference between urethane and non-urethane balls, and I can tell the difference between PV1/PV1x and other urethane balls. I have no launch monitor data; just feel and observation. When I play a PV1, I have to remember that I have to fly the ball closer to the hole on chips/pitches... sometimes I forget. It's frustrating to have the ball check when you didn't plan on it. Other urethane and 2-piece balls roll out more, but if I play them all the time, I can easily gauge the rollout better than I can gauge how much spin I can consistently put on a PV1. If I didn't care about the price, I would play PV1x all the time and get used to the check on the green... but I do care. In looking for a winter ball I found that the Callaway Warbird ball flies higher than most balls for my swing and provides sufficient check on the greens that is easy to control. It's my ball of choice for awhile. 4 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kenny B said: I wished that MGS had done the recent Titleist fitting with at least as many higher handicaps as they did with scratch and + handicaps. Maybe they didn't because it wouldn't give clear-cut results. They didn’t because those were the people that went. As mentioned I was invited to go along with the pool of testers that MGS has. Unfortunately the test was in the middle of the week during the day. 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: mFGP2 Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGoBlue100 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I was lucky to visit Bridgestone HQ in Georgia with @GolfSpy Barbajoa few years ago and was fitted there by probably their best dude for that, Adam Rehberg. (He works with Tiger, so I guess he's a'rite...) I've been a Bridgestone loyalist since then and although I also try other brands, I always end up coming back to what I know works for my game. @Kenny Bhit the nail on the head above; if you have to constantly adjust your game to your ball, you're leaving strokes on the golf course. 1 Quote "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay5477 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I also had a Bridgestone ball fitting, around 10 years or so ago. The guy running the test told me that with my low clubhead speed, it really didn't matter what ball I played. So, yeah, really didn't help me much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I've not had a ball fitting done but I think I'd like to. Based on the combination of ball lab info provided by MGS and knowing the parameters of what I like to play, I can narrow down to what I want. I play the Z-Star now, and the ProV1 for years, both of those are considered medium launch-medium spin balls with Firm compression. The Z-Stars are almost $10 less per box, plus Srixon runs BOGO more often so I switched. I imagine any other Medium-Medium ball between 85-90 compression would work fine for me as well. Maxfli comes to mind. I know <75 compression is too soft and I will lose distance so I can throw out the Chrome Soft & Tour B RX. I know I don't like the way TP5x and ProV1x perform in the short game, they are much too clicky. But all of the above are why I want to do a ball fitting. Maybe there is another Medium-Medium ball I haven't considered that will perform just as well as Srixon or Titleist for a better price. Maybe there is a different X ball that gives me the short game performance I am looking for. Maybe I am in that niche market that actually should play AVX. Just put all the questions to bed and figure it out. Peace of mind is worth the price of a fitting. 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: Titleist 714CB 4-PW Wedges: Vokey SM5 & SM6 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGoBlue100 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 49 minutes ago, Clay5477 said: I also had a Bridgestone ball fitting, around 10 years or so ago. The guy running the test told me that with my low clubhead speed, it really didn't matter what ball I played. So, yeah, really didn't help me much. I have to say I think that person (I won't use the term "fitter" with them) did you a disservice. Quote "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, Clay5477 said: I also had a Bridgestone ball fitting, around 10 years or so ago. The guy running the test told me that with my low clubhead speed, it really didn't matter what ball I played. So, yeah, really didn't help me much. I had a similar Bridgestone ball fitting about the same time with similar results. Of course, they had to put me into a Bridgestone ball and that was the B-RXS. It was OK, but not enough difference to stick with it. Us slow speed players need to find a ball that we like to play around the green and stick with it so we become familiar with how it reacts. 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGoBlue100 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, DiscipleofPenick said: I've not had a ball fitting done but I think I'd like to. Based on the combination of ball lab info provided by MGS and knowing the parameters of what I like to play, I can narrow down to what I want. I play the Z-Star now, and the ProV1 for years, both of those are considered medium launch-medium spin balls with Firm compression. The Z-Stars are almost $10 less per box, plus Srixon runs BOGO more often so I switched. I imagine any other Medium-Medium ball between 85-90 compression would work fine for me as well. Maxfli comes to mind. I know <75 compression is too soft and I will lose distance so I can throw out the Chrome Soft & Tour B RX. I know I don't like the way TP5x and ProV1x perform in the short game, they are much too clicky. But all of the above are why I want to do a ball fitting. Maybe there is another Medium-Medium ball I haven't considered that will perform just as well as Srixon or Titleist for a better price. Maybe there is a different X ball that gives me the short game performance I am looking for. Maybe I am in that niche market that actually should play AVX. Just put all the questions to bed and figure it out. Peace of mind is worth the price of a fitting. You sound to me (an untrained person who plays golf & types words into a forum post, LOLZ) like someone who could do their own on course testing. Ask Santa to bring you various sleeves of balls you think you'd like to try and do your own on course analysis. And, if it's convenient, go get ball fit. 1 Quote "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfspyhack Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I have been to a few fittings with two major brands . Titleist , and Bridgestone. I was fitted to a softer ball from both companies than their tour versions. I do feel the Bridgestone balls help me off the tee a little better. Also around the greens. So i would say yes if the opportunity presents itself try it out and get fit to a ball that fits your game. I'm a believer . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, MGoBlue100 said: You sound to me (an untrained person who plays golf & types words into a forum post, LOLZ) like someone who could do their own on course testing. Ask Santa to bring you various sleeves of balls you think you'd like to try and do your own on course analysis. And, if it's convenient, go get ball fit. Lol you are correct, and I've kind of done my own on course testing. I'm planning on ordering a Snell test pack, and maybe some Vice over the winter. I have ProV1, Z-Star, Z-Star XV, and Maxfli on the shelf at home. I think it's all about short game performance. I know I lose distance with anything less than 75 compression, even if it's urethane, so those balls are out. I know the X balls are not going to go exceptionally further than the other tour balls, so it all comes down to iron control and greenside performance. I'm not knocking the ProV1x or TP5x, I just know they don't perform the way I like a golf ball to. I did get to try a Tour BX this year and I had two great rounds with it, one was 14 GIR with lots of rip on the iron shots, and two poor rounds. So I know not all X balls are created the same. On the other hand, it's convenient to go get fit because there's a Golf Galaxy about 5 minutes from my house. It's going to be a boring winter, so why not. They charge $70 for the fitting and I can test anything on their shelves. 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: Titleist 714CB 4-PW Wedges: Vokey SM5 & SM6 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Bronstein Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 To answer the question about has anyone actually done a ball fitting before. my answer is Yes, I’ve been fitted and was a senior Golf Ball Fitter. I was in the greater Boston area as a pupil and fitter. 1 Quote Scott Bronstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregGarner Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, DiscipleofPenick said: Maybe there is another Medium-Medium ball I haven't considered that will perform just as well as Srixon or Titleist for a better price. Maybe there is a different X ball that gives me the short game performance I am looking for. Maybe I am in that niche market that actually should play AVX. Get out of my head. 1 1 Quote Driver: ZX5 9.5* with 46.5" Ventus Blue 6X 3-wood: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S 5-wood: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S 2i: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff 4hy: TS3 23* with Tensei AV Blue 70 S 4i-7i ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S 50*, 54* RTX ZipCore Modus3 Tour 115 60* RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400 Putter: HB Soft Premier 11s, Toulon Chicago Ball: Maxfli Tour, ProV1, Left Dash Bag: Ltd Edition Tartan, blue/green/yellow Using to keep track of my shots and Fit for Golf Tested: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everardo Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, HAC said: I mean an actual in person golf ball fitting. If so, where and did you find it helpful? I couldn't find anyone in person that would fit different brands, so I'm doing it myself. I personally find it valuable to take all variables away, have all my equipment, ball especially because it's used for every shot on every hole. So yeah I could do some trial and error but I'd rather have data behind it knowing ball a is better than b, c, d, e...... I'm trying to get down to one set of clubs, one driver, irons, wedges, putter so why not do the same with the ball. And in the end if I can't tell the difference or it's only a few yards then fine. It takes further guess work out of the way, way easier to just have my brand and model so that way it's easier to shop for and have ready to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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