Jay412 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Hello All, I am in the market for a new Driver. I was looking at the speedzone xtreme, mavrik max, epic flash, radspeed xd, pingg410 and titleist TS3. I am a beginner, I slice the ball, top it at time etc. I am LH. So I can't go try out alot of these. Wanted to get everyone's experience, advice etc. Looking for distance and forgiveness. Any suggestions and advice is appreciated. Thanks GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhammer Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Honestly, as a beginner you are not going to be able to discern the minute difference between those drivers right now. Your best bet is to pick-up a cheap used late model name brand driver on ebay, Facebook or Craigslist, get some lessons, develop a repeatable swing and then get fitted for a new driver. If you've got money to burn you could try the Dollar Driver Club where you can try out a few different drivers each year till you find one you like. Shapotomous, MrHogan, aldoran and 5 others 7 1 Quote Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Something I have done in the past is check out the older MGS most wanted. This can give you a decent idea of where to start. All that being said Ping G400 Max or SFT are great spots to start. Still used by a ton of golfers out there, few iterations old so it won't be too expensive and Ping is a good forgiving driver that offers good distance as well. Can't recommend enough and think you should be able to find them for a steal. Also along these same lines the original Taylormade M2 was super popular and may not have the newest and greatest tech, but again was and is still used by many and was considered to be far better then the 2nd version of the M2. Also shouldn't go without saying welcome to the lefty club! Happy to see another on the forum! aldoran, tony@CIC, fixyurdivot and 3 others 6 Quote as of June 2nd, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: TBD: Follow here: Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: TBD 659 TC w/ KBS Tour V 90 Black Wedge: S23 54,58 w/ KBS Tour Hi-Rev Blackout Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hedrick Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Headhammer said: Honestly, as a beginner you are not going to be able to discern the minute difference between those drivers right now. Your best bet is to pick-up a cheap used late model name brand driver on ebay, Facebook or Craigslist, get some lessons, develop a repeatable swing and then get fitted for a new driver. If you've got money to burn you could try the Dollar Driver Club where you can try out a few different drivers each year till you find one you like. Good advice, in my opinion Headhammer 1 Quote Bag C130, 14 way Cart Bag Driver Epic Flash Fairway GBB Epic 5 Hybrid Epic Flash 4H Iron 2 iron Irons Launcher HB, 4 through PW Wedges CBX2, 54 & 60 degree Putter Seemore Si1 Putter Ball Titleist pro v1x Other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Ping g400 sft RollingGreens, Golfspy_CG2 and fixyurdivot 2 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Headhammer said: Honestly, as a beginner you are not going to be able to discern the minute difference between those drivers right now. Your best bet is to pick-up a cheap used late model name brand driver on ebay, Facebook or Craigslist, get some lessons, develop a repeatable swing and then get fitted for a new driver. If you've got money to burn you could try the Dollar Driver Club where you can try out a few different drivers each year till you find one you like. I'd agree - as a beginner you can't tell the difference. I've got a Ping 410SFT which is pretty forgiving but also still pretty pricey for a beginner since it may not be the right driver for you in 2 yrs. BTW G400 SFT has gotten great reviews and may be a much lower price point. In addition to other recommendations, I'd also check out 2nd swing or other reputable online vendors - be careful of ebay as there are counterfeit clubs sold there. I can personally tell you lefty heads are tough to come by - selection even in new drivers is challenging so be patient. While you trying to find one, you can always use a 3 or 5 wood off the tee. . Find a good used club, put a new grip on it and take a few lessons. Then, of course, get fit, The latter will save you $$ long run. Headhammer, Golfspy_CG2, Paul Hedrick and 2 others 5 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStar Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I've gone through this as I've only been playing regularly since April. My swing had developed a lot since then and I've gone from a stiff TM R7 to a Cobra F6+ and now on an x-stiff Radspeed. As my swing has got more consistent I've learned a bit more about what I need. Buying cheap on eBay was what I did - that way you can get back most of the outlay if it's not right. Once you know a bit more about your swing, get a fitting but may be worth a lesson or 2 to iron out any obvious mistakes. Tom D. 1 Quote RADSpeed 9° Matrix Black Tie X-Flex F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue CLK 19° Hybrid Speeder Evo HB S MP54 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 115 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 If you have the time and money, I'd suggest getting fit - maybe full bag if you can score one of the many specials the various companies offer. From there you will have the important decoder information to begin shopping new and used options. The fitting process is, IMO, important. This coming from someone who thought it was largely hype and a waste of money. My .02 cents fwiw. Good luck with the search, welcome to the game, and to the forum. Golfspy_CG2 and Tom D. 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Some might think this is heresy but instead of getting fit right away I like the combo advice@Headhammer and @GolfSpy_APH. You say you are a beginner so look for something relatively inexpensive from the used market based on past most wanted reports. You probably don't want to get a full bag fitting, spend $$$ and find out in 4 months you don't want to play any more and have a "Peloton" to get rid of. But I would recommend getting a lesson or three to go over the basics of grip, set up, and swing to get you started the proper direction since its hard to unlearn bad habits. After you get a few rounds in and decide you are hooked then get fit. The person giving lessons could probably make a suggestion or two about what to be sure to try out in the fitting. Tom D., Headhammer, fixyurdivot and 1 other 4 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18*, 23* & 27* Hybrids; JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Raw 50*, Nippon Tour 120 X; SM9 54* / 10* / S, Wedge Flex ; Tour Action 57*, PX LZ 6.5; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-Black; Bag - H2NO Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Shapotomous said: Some might think this is heresy but instead of getting fit right away I like the combo advice@Headhammer and @GolfSpy_APH. You say you are a beginner so look for something relatively inexpensive from the used market based on past most wanted reports. You probably don't want to get a full bag fitting, spend $$$ and find out in 4 months you don't want to play any more and have a "Peloton" to get rid of. But I would recommend getting a lesson or three to go over the basics of grip, set up, and swing to get you started the proper direction since its hard to unlearn bad habits. After you get a few rounds in and decide you are hooked then get fit. The person giving lessons could probably make a suggestion or two about what to be sure to try out in the fitting. Good points. I can't speak for Jamie and @Headhammerbut suspect we were thinking beginner as opposed to never played. Certainly lessons are priority one in that case. I mean presuming he's of typical stature and falls within the two sigma distribution of the playing population, it's likely 7/10 used sets of clubs on the market will be playable. I keep forgetting that my thinking about all things golf has been corrupted since June 2018 . Shapotomous and Tom D. 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 ... You should at least get on a LM and see what kind of trajectory and spin you are producing. Even a beginner can spin the ball too much or not spin it enough, so finding the right driver is paramount to improvement. More forgiving the better as long as you have spin and trajectory in the right ball park. Even advanced players need to fine tune if they have not been fit. My last fitting a year ago showed me I did not produce enough spin with my Cobra SZ and switching to a Sim improved my carry with similar roll. I could hit some real bombs with the SZ but on average my drives were farther and straighter with the Sim. I would add I had no interest in changing drivers before my fitting and just wanted to dial in a shaft. Golfspy_CG2, Tom D. and RollingGreens 3 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Stealth2 HD 10.5* ... Ventus Velocore Red 5R Fairway: Aerojet 5 & 7 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: Sim 22* ... Diamond LTD 65r Irons: King Tour 4-Pw ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 51*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: King Sport-60 Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour/Kirkland V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John W Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I am a true believer in the built-in forgiveness for just all the recent Ping models. I currently game a Ping G410 and rarely lose a ball off the course. Not to say that I never miss a fairway but almost never lose a ball. Shapotomous and Tom D. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTVMAN Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 If you're set on buying a driver, I'd recommend the Ping G400 Max or a Callaway Fusion Heavy (1" shorter weight adjusted). But I'd seriously recommend an adjustable 5-wood (17.5°) and set it to 16° or 16.5°, and use it off the tee as a 4-wood. You might be surprised how far and straight you hit it while getting better to the point where a driver makes sense. Tom D. 1 Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Diamona S+ LTD Blue-Board 70 R Shaft Ping G425 Max 5-7-9 Fairway Woods w/Ping Alta CB R Shaft Ping G425 Irons 5-U w/Ping Alta CB R Shaft (Power-Spec Lofts) Ping 3.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap F3 Flex Ping B60i Putter w/2-Thumb OctoTech 36 Grip PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Wrap Mid-Size Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 keep your driver. get a few lessons. or work up your skill on a 3 wood. Quote Driver: PXG 0211, A flex Evnflo Riptide. 3 W: Callaway Steelhead Xr A flex for driving. 3 W : Adams Speedline Fast Low profile, Matrix Ozik blue reg flex, for fairway. 3 Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC driving iron, Recoil reg flex. 5 H: 5 Mizuno Fli-hi, Recoil reg flex. Irons: 6 - W Ping I 500, on Recoil reg flex shafts. Wedge: Mizuno GFF S5, 52 deg, 9 bounce, TT Dyn wedge shaft. Sand: Original version Hogan 56 deg Sure Out on Apex original shaft. Chipper: (yep I carry a chipper) old Don Martin "Up n In" bronze or copper, flat face, no grooves. Putter: Kmart Precise face balanced mallet, Super Stroke Pistol 3.0 giant fat grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler86 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 7:39 AM, Headhammer said: Honestly, as a beginner you are not going to be able to discern the minute difference between those drivers right now. Your best bet is to pick-up a cheap used late model name brand driver on ebay, Facebook or Craigslist, get some lessons, develop a repeatable swing and then get fitted for a new driver. If you've got money to burn you could try the Dollar Driver Club where you can try out a few different drivers each year till you find one you like. @Jay412 ^^^^this^^^^. no driver fixes a slice or a top. Tom D. and Kenny B 2 Quote Mavrik Max Driver M2 5W 818 hybrids Steelhead XR Irons ZipCore wedges SeeMore PR M7X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterT Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 There are great suggestions above! One thing I would add (unless I missed it) is "loft is your friend." As a newer player, choose a driver with 10 or more degrees of loft to allow you to get the ball in the air more easily. Shapotomous and Tom D. 2 Quote TaylorMade Stealth2+ 9° - Fujikura Ventus Black VeloCore 5-S TaylorMade M5 15° - Fujikura Ventus Black VeloCore 6-S TaylorMade Gapr Mid 3 18° - KBS Tour Prototype 80 S Srixon 4-AW Nippon Modus 3 105 R Cleveland ZipCore 54° Mid and 58° Mid DG Spinner Sub70 Mid-Mallet Sycamore 002 34.5" Titleist Pro V1 Arccos Gen 3 sensors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingGreens Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I have the g425 lst in my bag and am amazed at the forgiveness of ping drivers across the line. I have a few friends who game the g410 and would recommend it. My lather in law also play the 400 max which is a fantastic driver Shapotomous and Tom D. 2 Quote Stealth 2 Plus 9deg Kai' li Red Stealth 2 13deg Aldilla Rogue Silver Stealth 2 15deg Aldilla Rogue Silver JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Titleist ProV1 Hoofer Stand Bag Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Official Stewart Q Follow Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saz0418 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 A few things. First, as a beginner, your swing is very, very likely to change if you continue to play and improve. Your improving swing is ultimately going to decide what driver is best for you--- shaft specifications, loft, draw bias, length etc. I would say if you currently have a driver that was released in, say, the last 10 years, keep using it and pay for a few lessons. Better use of your money and time. Then, you can make an informed decision about what driver fits you. I am partial to PING drivers. I had a new R1 and M1, and have owned COBRA and Callaway drivers in the last 5 or 6 years. I keep coming back to PING for consistency. But, I know people that hit TM or Callaway exclusively, and drive the ball beautifully. If you are going to buy a "new driver", a fitting will only optimize your equipment to your current swing and ability. You could, instead, go to a stock driver -- say 10 degrees of loft with a regular shaft and some degree of adjustability. There are really affordable options online at 2ndswing, Global Golf, Callaway Preowned and similar sites. You can use Google for the brand and model (ex: Ping G30 driver used), and then use the 'shopping' option to see who might have something available. Use that and then upgrade when you are comfortable with your swing, your shot patterns and your results. Tom D. and Shapotomous 2 Quote ---------- PIng G410, 10.5 set at 9.5/ Cleveland 3+ Hy-wood (18*) / Titleist 915 7w / Callaway XR 4h / Tour Edge HL-4 5h / Mizuno JPX-921 Hot Metal 7i - GW / Tommy Armour 845 CB wedges (52, 56*). Ping Sigma 2 Fetch Putter. SkyTrak in the Garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweed Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I have a Ping G400 SFT and have used it for many years. A good choice and easily found decent "used" sites. Shapotomous 1 Quote D- Ping G 400 SFT 16*- Adams Tight Lie 19*- Adams Tight Lie 4H- Ping G 400 5-U- Ping G 400 SW- Nike 56*- Ping Glide 2 P- Odessey 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiTerp50 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 As noted, no club can cure a slice. If you can move that to a fade, then the PING MAX 400/410 or a SIM Max Draw can help. If money is no object, then 425 or SIM 2 versions with a fitted shaft will get the most benefit. But you may need to get help to cure whatever swing fault is resulting in the slice before getting fit. We can only share opinions, a professional can directly work on flaws specific to you. Shapotomous and Tom D. 2 Quote Titleist TSR 11 degree, HZRDS Red R 44.75 Titleist TS 4W HZDRS Red R Titleist 818 23/25 hybrid Tensai Red R Titleist T300 (2021) 6-W Fubuki Titleist SM9 50-54-58 TT AMT Red Scotty Phantom X 7.5, all LH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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