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Saw the 2nd Swing video of them hitting this head-to-head against the Stealth. Stealth had the single longest drive, but the dispersion circle with the Rogue was silly good! Only a yard or two shorter on TOTAL, but based on the consistency, the Rogue would be my choice if I had seen the same results!

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Driver: :cobra-small: King F9 Speedback/:callaway-small:Epic Max LS, Xphlexxx Busa 2 Liquid, XX stiff, 45”

Fwy:  :callaway-small: Epic Speed 4w, MMT 80X

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105X

Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

All but putter have Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Calibrate midsize built to oversize +1

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55 minutes ago, PMookie said:

Saw the 2nd Swing video of them hitting this head-to-head against the Stealth. Stealth had the single longest drive, but the dispersion circle with the Rogue was silly good! Only a yard or two shorter on TOTAL, but based on the consistency, the Rogue would be my choice if I had seen the same results!

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                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype        
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 5-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter: Auditions ongoing 

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I don't say this lightly, but this is the best driver I've hit in years!  I hit the Max version as I'm looking for something forgiving.  Amazingly enough, the PGA SS had a Tensi AV White 75X shaft to demo.  The first few hits, this driver had the stability of a Ping, but the distance of a Taylormade.  Even on mishits, I didn't feel any twisting of the face and the shot only just missed the fairway.  I'm super excited to try this driver again and possibly do a fitting for it if the 2nd try goes as well as this one!

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Driver: Callaway Rogue ST Max
3 Wood: Taylormade SIM
3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85
4i – AW: Taylormade P760
SW: Taylormade MG3 TW Grind
LW: Taylormade Hi-Toe Low Bounce
Putter: Ping Vault Oslo

 

 

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19 minutes ago, goaliewales14 said:

I don't say this lightly, but this is the best driver I've hit in years!  I hit the Max version as I'm looking for something forgiving.  Amazingly enough, the PGA SS had a Tensi AV White 75X shaft to demo.  The first few hits, this driver had the stability of a Ping, but the distance of a Taylormade.  Even on mishits, I didn't feel any twisting of the face and the shot only just missed the fairway.  I'm super excited to try this driver again and possibly do a fitting for it if the 2nd try goes as well as this one!

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Those distance numbers make me wonder what life is like in that lane!! 
 

Very nice! 

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:titelist-small: TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

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1 hour ago, goaliewales14 said:

I don't say this lightly, but this is the best driver I've hit in years!  I hit the Max version as I'm looking for something forgiving.  Amazingly enough, the PGA SS had a Tensi AV White 75X shaft to demo.  The first few hits, this driver had the stability of a Ping, but the distance of a Taylormade.  Even on mishits, I didn't feel any twisting of the face and the shot only just missed the fairway.  I'm super excited to try this driver again and possibly do a fitting for it if the 2nd try goes as well as this one!

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Nice! Find a shaft that takes away the knucklers and you have a winner!

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Fwy:  :callaway-small: Epic Speed 4w, MMT 80X

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105X

Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

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11 hours ago, goaliewales14 said:

I don't say this lightly, but this is the best driver I've hit in years!  I hit the Max version as I'm looking for something forgiving.  Amazingly enough, the PGA SS had a Tensi AV White 75X shaft to demo.  The first few hits, this driver had the stability of a Ping, but the distance of a Taylormade.  Even on mishits, I didn't feel any twisting of the face and the shot only just missed the fairway.  I'm super excited to try this driver again and possibly do a fitting for it if the 2nd try goes as well as this one!

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Nice launch monitor numbers. Not sure how that launch and spin will play in real life. But if the goal is just to find the longest driver you have a pretty good one there

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

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16 hours ago, PMookie said:

Nice! Find a shaft that takes away the knucklers and you have a winner!

 

5 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Nice launch monitor numbers. Not sure how that launch and spin will play in real life. But if the goal is just to find the longest driver you have a pretty good one there

Agreed would definitely need to look at a different shaft in an actual fitting.  I didn't export the numbers from the session to show the average, but definitely blown away with how consistent the driver was!  With different strikes on the face, I didn't have them screaming left or right.  The misses would have been just in the rough which I'm normally used to playing from the adjacent fairway or being OB 🤣

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3 Wood: Taylormade SIM
3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85
4i – AW: Taylormade P760
SW: Taylormade MG3 TW Grind
LW: Taylormade Hi-Toe Low Bounce
Putter: Ping Vault Oslo

 

 

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11 minutes ago, goaliewales14 said:

 

Agreed would definitely need to look at a different shaft in an actual fitting.  I didn't export the numbers from the session to show the average, but definitely blown away with how consistent the driver was!  With different strikes on the face, I didn't have them screaming left or right.  The misses would have been just in the rough which I'm normally used to playing from the adjacent fairway or being OB 🤣

Not sure what your target was and since you didnt post all the shots 33.7 yards offline to the right (assuming the R in that box indicate to the right) is quite far offline.

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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9 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Not sure what your target was and since you didnt post all the shots 33.7 yards offline to the right (assuming the R in that box indicate to the right) is quite far offline.

I wasn't doing a full review on this driver, just initial thoughts/feels.  That photo was just one shot where I was happy, and excited, that I got almost a 300 yard carry.  All I was looking to do was show it off since that's something I've never done with a driver before especially with a stock shaft off the rack.

If I was to analyze that shot by itself, my miss is a straight push, so I typically aim up the left side of the fairway.  This shot plays perfectly into that miss with 23 RPM sidespin.  Fairway widths are between 25-65 yards with the average fairway width is around 40 yards.  This shot for me would have most likely ended up on the right edge of the fairway, or just into 1st cut of rough.  I definitely wouldn't call that "quite far offline" as I'm just an average weekend warrior.

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3 Wood: Taylormade SIM
3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85
4i – AW: Taylormade P760
SW: Taylormade MG3 TW Grind
LW: Taylormade Hi-Toe Low Bounce
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I was talking to the Fitter at the Golf Store about a 2 weeks ago and I was asking about new iron releases.  He said to “hold off for few weeks until he got the Callaway Fitting cart in”.  He was very optimistic about this release. 
After I heal up a bit more I’m heading down there and give them a go.

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5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2

Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2

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I ordered my TM Stealth.  

What's In the Bag

Callaway Epic Max 10.5° driver w/5.5 Project X Cypher 50 shaft & std GolfPride Tour Velvet +4 grip
Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3-wood w/reg Fuijikura Air Speeder 40 shaft & std Lamkin Z5 TT grip
Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3-hybrid w/reg KBS 70 shaft & std GolfPride Tour Velvet +4 grip
Titleist AP1 714 irons 5-PW & GW w/reg True Temper XP95 R300 shafts & std GolfPride Tour Velvet +4 grips
Callaway Jaws full toe 60° wedge with Project X Catalyst 80 wedge graphite shaft
Odyssey White Hot OG #7 CH stroke lab putter
Callaway Org 14 bag
 

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On 1/4/2022 at 12:29 PM, GolfSpy_APH said:

I know the TM will get a lot of intrigue and interest, but for me this is the one I'm most excited about. 

 

On 1/4/2022 at 8:19 PM, PMookie said:

Just not an exciting launch for me, especially because I’m going to see hundreds of posts with the name of the driver spelled incorrectly (ROUGE) 😂😂😂😂

Rogue, Mavrik, etc just seem like a “lesser line”, even though they aren’t. I get that the “supercomputer” (is it REALLY a SUPER computer?! Pull the other leg, it plays jingle bells) has changed the face to get more out of it across the full face, and there’s a different weight in the back, but is it REALLY different? I agree with what was said in the article, it sounds a little tired, repetitive. It’s just meh for me, and I prefer a gloss head.

The new Callaway a cross the board with a lot of different people testing are getting incredible results for accuracy and dispersion. Distance has been pushed too the edge the have to work on forgiveness

now and Callaway really hit a home run with the new drivers

 

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I can't wait for Rick Shiels to take 5 to 10 swings with it and post his review 🤣🤣😈.

It really does look like they just combined the Rogue sole with Maverik color wave, of which neither appealed to me so much.

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1 hour ago, warbirdlover said:

I ordered my TM Stealth.  

Since this is the Callaway thread,  I assume you tested the two against each other.  Tell us about your fitting and why you choose the Stealth over the Callaway.

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Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype        
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Does anyone know the overall head weight on the max version?  I have the g425 max and like it and I think it’s worked well for me bc the head is 201g, heavier than most heads these days. Want to see if I can get same stability with this but better ball speed.  Curious about overall head weight though.  Thx!

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Very interested to try out the max LS and Triple Diamond versions.  I've liked my Mavrik Sub Zero and while I have found the dispersion left to right to be fairly good actually.  This distance on off center hits can definitely suffer.  Hoping I can find the best of all worlds with one of these.  I actually did find a little better results when I hit the Epic Max LS last year, but nothing major to warrant a purchase.  

Driver:  image.png.3c6db1120d888f669e07d4a8f890b3f1.pngMavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X

2 Hybrid: :titelist-small: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*)

3 Hybrid :titelist-small: 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*)

4 Iron -  :titelist-small: T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft

Irons 5-PW:  :titelist-small: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X

Gap/Sand Wedge:  :titelist-small: Vokey SM6 49*  SM8 54* 

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Had a demo with the Rogue ST D yesterday. I say demo because it wan't a fit for several reasons. 
1 - The shop only had the 10.5 ST draw head in LH. Not my first choice by any means, but gave me a decent feel for the club. 
2 - Only tried one shaft, again which was fine. it was the one most similar to mine in a previous Callaway line. 
3 - They left me be and I just hit away

So start with the funny part or wait till the end? ... I'll wait

Observations
Head looked great, awesome sound and nice feel off the head. However the head in that configuration was not suitable to my spin. It took a lot for me to get spin in the 2600 range and the swing felt off. When I swung my normal way the spin was usually above 3400 and although launch was in a decent enough window the spin killed the distance.
Ball speed was in a range I liked as well for me. Just above the 150 mark on most all hits with a couple healy ones well not being great, of course which is expected. 
Ball flight was very straight overall. Again Spin was high so this was somewhat expected.
So overall I really liked the driver and will go back when they have more heads in stock which will allow me to deal in a proper head and have a proper fit which will suit me. 

So the funny part... My first hit/swing felt amazing. Good contact, higher spin about 3200 with a decent draw. The issue it only went 219! Ball speed was low 150's, but overall it just didn't add up to me. I hit several more and even with some with lower spin the best carry I had was 230. I just figured I lost some speed over the winter and that was the case. So tried ramping it up, but spin started to climb and the distance pretty much capped there. So I talked to the guy for a little bit and then he said one word that made me feel really stupid... I live in Switzerland and our courses are all in Meters... so I needed to add roughly 10% onto all those distances to get yardages. Then it all clicked in and started to make more sense to me. Some definite confusion, but definitely something to make sure you look at before judging a club!

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Driver:   :callaway-small: Mavrik Sub Zero - Set at 9.5* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 2 and 4 iron

Irons:     :ping-small: i210 5-U w/ Nippon Modus 105 stiff (2018 Tester)

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

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Well I have been looking at reviews and took the plunge on a triple diamond as this is the first year it is available for lefties. 
 

I can’t wait to take this to my fitter to get on a launch monitor and retrofit with my current LAGP AXS Blue and an older Tensei White 70TX I have. I got an all fit adapter for my LAGP shaft so I can compare numbers for both. Tensei white is an older shaft I had played in previous seasons. I bought a Callaway adapter for it to have two different shafts to test out. 
 

Primary goal: tighten dispersion over my current OG Sim Max. The OG Sim Max has beaten out TSi2 and TSi3 in on course comparisons in this least year. I have never hit a Callaway driver so I am looking forward to trying this. 

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Fairway: :titelist-small: TSi2 16.5 Accra RPZ Tour 472 M5+

Hybrid: :ping-small: G410 23 Ventus Blue 10X

Irons:  :callaway-small: Apex TCB 5-AW Modus 130X :titelist-small: T100 4 iron Modus 130X 

Wedges: :vokey-small: SM8 54.12, 60.08 Modus 125 Wedge/60.10 LAGP L Series 120 Wedge 

Putter: Lajosi DD201

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Winner, Winner - Ding, Ding, Ding

First, thing you need to know is that I game the Ping 400 Max fairway finder and have been looking to replace it every year since I put it in.  It's incredibly forgiving, but I can barely get it out there 235-250 with a 100+ swing speed.

The last candidate I tried was the 9* Epic Max in S flex with Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60 Graphite.  

So here are one guy's actual fitting results with the new Rogue ST. 

Rogue Max +1* loft - Ball Speed 141, Backspin 3,529,total spin 3,582, carry 220.5, total 239 yards

Rogue Max set back to 9* - ball speed 141.6, backspin 3,677, total spin 3,985, carry 222, total 241 yards

Rogue ST Max D New Mitsubishi TENSEI AV White 65 Graphite Stiff flex 9*

Ball speed 139.7, Backspin 2,169, total spin 2,238, carry 230.5, total 255 yards - Boy is this thing a slice fixer, but I don't slice.  More of a weak fade and all the shots were 30 yards left.

Rogue ST Max New Mitsubishi TENSEI AV White 65 Graphite Stiff flex 9*

Ball Speed 146, backspin 2,700, Total spin 2,766, carry 243, total 265 yards.

So, for me, the head/shaft combo is much less spinny.  The shots are naturally straight (fewer weak fades). Ball speed jumped because efficiency/smash improved. Saw more low to mid 4's than with the Max.  The head sets up on the ground straight - the rail on the sole prevented me from rotating the face like I tend to do with round bottom clubs.

Here is the funnies part of the fitting.  I wasn't planning on one.  I just happened to be at the PGA superstore hitting in the practice bay when I heard the Tour Van experience fitter say someone cancelled on him last minute.  So I jumped in since Cally picks up the tab, and 45 minutes later ended up with a new driver. 

Went home with the quote (it was a total no pressure fitting). Searched for the 50% trade in bonus offer which luckily some members of WRX posted about, but didn't find my code email, so I called Callaway and asked for it.  10 minute call resulted in a $360 trade in value for the above mentioned MAX.  I think even the wife would approve of spending $230 (taxes suck) to pick up 20-25 yards off the tee 🤣  🤣

Will this happen for everyone? Hell no. But to those still on the fence about fittings, don't be.  Get fitted into the right shaft, regardless the head you pick out.  Prior to this experience I would never have thought of myself as a Low Spin/ Low launch shaft golfer.  But Foresight don't lie about spin.

 

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Since my work schedule screwed up my scheduled Taylormade fitting, I happened to see that Callaway will be at the course on Friday. I can easily justify skipping out of work a little early for that. I haven't really hit anything made in the past 5 years other than a Mavrik Max and the JPX921 Forged (head was used when I did the shaft fitting for my irons) so it will be interesting. I can't say that I'm really in the market for anything in particular, but I don't think it will be too difficult to convince me that I could use a few upgrades either. 

Driver: Srixon Z565, Miyazaki Kaula Mizu
3 Wood: Snake Eyes Viper Tour, Aldila NV
Hybrids: Snake Eyes Viper Tour 18 and 24 deg, Aldila NV
Irons: Srixon I-701 5-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120
Wedges: Callaway X-Forged 50, 54, and 58, Nippon Modus3 Wedge 115
Putter: Yes! Marilyn

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