cnosil Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Sluggo42 said: With the same head on about 20 shafts, we went thru each one for 3 shots. Things like different grip thickness, different lengths, different stiffnesses, etc, and we looked at all the shot data as well as face contact points, and it was very interesting… . That sounds like a great thing to do. Would love to find a place that would allow you to test different grip size and shaft lengths Sluggo42 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: mFGP2 Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, Directed Force 2.1, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Wowzza... $220/arrow with stock graphite shaft offerings . The great news for me is that the Recoil 780's were runner up to the MMT80's. So, if the ZX5's start acting up, their should be some nice used sticks with the right shaft out there on the market. https://mygolfspy.com/ping-i525-irons/ Sluggo42 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: Wowzza... $220/arrow with stock graphite shaft offerings . The great news for me is that the Recoil 780's were runner up to the MMT80's. So, if the ZX5's start acting up, their should be some nice used sticks with the right shaft out there on the market. https://mygolfspy.com/ping-i525-irons/ That’s a pretty standard price for graphite and in some cases it’s on the low end. Iirc titleist charges $71/club for the steelfiber. For recoil 95 they used to charge $34, not sure if that went up this year. Taylomade charges $28 for the lighter mmt shafts and usually $50 for all other graphite. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Surprised the official thread on these hasn’t been posted. Quote Driver: Honma TR 460 8.5*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 S, 45 1/4"; Ping G425 LST, Fujikura Speeder TR 661 S, 45 1/2" hybrids: Cobra King Tec 17* and 21*, both with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105 X Irons: Srixon ZX5 4-6, ZX7 7-PW, UST Mamiya Recoil F4, +1” Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 All but putter have Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Calibrate midsize built to oversize +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: That’s a pretty standard price for graphite and in some cases it’s on the low end. Iirc titleist charges $71/club for the steelfiber. For recoil 95 they used to charge $34, not sure if that went up this year. Taylomade charges $28 for the lighter mmt shafts and usually $50 for all other graphite. It's been known that PING (and many other OEM's) were raising list prices, but this is more than I expected. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: It's been known that PING (and many other OEM's) were raising list prices, but this is more than I expected. Not sure how it could be unexpected when on page 1 @Golfspy_CG2posted they will be priced like p790 and apex but not as high as i59. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, fixyurdivot said: Wowzza... $220/arrow with stock graphite shaft offerings . The great news for me is that the Recoil 780's were runner up to the MMT80's. So, if the ZX5's start acting up, their should be some nice used sticks with the right shaft out there on the market. https://mygolfspy.com/ping-i525-irons/ That's the Suggested Retail. Price. Actual selling Price at most locations will be the $1499 steel and $1599 graphite, for a set of 8 irons. So less than $200 a club for graphite and about $187.50 for steel. fixyurdivot and BNewton51 1 1 Quote TSR2 10.0 HZRDUS Red CB 6.0 TSiR2 10.0 Tensei Blue X ink 55g TSR2 16.5 PX Evenflow 5.5 60 g TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R T200 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1X Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, PMookie said: Surprised the official thread on these hasn’t been posted. I haven't gottten the official press release. The main page blog is up, but I didn't want to just copy and paste that. BNewton51 and PMookie 1 1 Quote TSR2 10.0 HZRDUS Red CB 6.0 TSiR2 10.0 Tensei Blue X ink 55g TSR2 16.5 PX Evenflow 5.5 60 g TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R T200 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1X Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: That's the Suggested Retail. Price. Actual selling Price at most locations will be the $1499 steel and $1599 graphite, for a set of 8 irons. So less than $200 a club for graphite and about $187.50 for steel. That's a wee bit better. In the grand scheme of things, for folks that really love the game and spend the coin for fittings and improving their games, it's not a huge deal but I suspect it might move others towards lower priced DTC options. Bottom-line is that we consumers are going to shoulder the burdens/losses from the pandemic. Meanwhile, Bob Parson's is having fire sales . Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I will definitely have to try an i525 3 and 4 iron. They look really sweet. This could be another expensive year for new equipment! Paul Hedrick 1 Quote TSR 3 9.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff U-510 19 Utility Iron HZDUS Smoke Black 6.0 Stiff Haywood 5-PW Signature Irons - Recoil 780 ES F4 Stiff - Bent 2 deg flat Vokey 52 - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Haywood 56 - 12 KBS Tour Wedge 60 - 10 Tour Preferred - KBS Tour Wedge Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 - 35” Z-Star XV or Z-Star Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Loyal MCC Plus 4 Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) Man, with all the good looking clubs coming out this year... I think I need one of these: Edited February 8, 2022 by Tiftaaft Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNewton51 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Many are going to spend regardless of the selling price. However, that doesn't mean that it justifies it. $1499 is just a bridge too far. Is that 5-PW or 4-PW? I mean, I'm as guilty as anyone for spending on clubs regardless... but there is a breaking point for everyone where they just say it's far too much money to spend on a set of irons when you still have to buy woods, wedges and putters. Just my opinion. Quote BNewt51 Driver: TSi3 9* 3 Wood: TS2 14* Hybrid: Ping 425 17* and Ping 410 22* (interchangeable with 4 iron depending on conditions) Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-GW Wedges: Jaws 54 Wedge, Jaws 58 Hi-Toe Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Ball: Pro-V1 and Pro-V1x Hoofer - St. Judes Special Edition Bag Bushnell Range Finder (Patriot Pack) V-5 w/ Slope *King of taking (borrowing) all my club ***** friends clubs after they've discarded them after a couple months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, BNewton51 said: Many are going to spend regardless of the selling price. However, that doesn't mean that it justifies it. $1499 is just a bridge too far. Is that 5-PW or 4-PW? I mean, I'm as guilty as anyone for spending on clubs regardless... but there is a breaking point for everyone where they just say it's far too much money to spend on a set of irons when you still have to buy woods, wedges and putters. Just my opinion. That’s for 8 clubs. They are retailing for $187 that’s $1 more than the t series per club and $2 more per club than apex 21. P790 are $1299 for 4-p Even Srixon has crept into the $1200 for a set. BNewton51 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNewton51 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: That’s for 8 clubs. They are retailing for $187 that’s $1 more than the t series per club and $2 more per club than apex 21. P790 are $1299 for 4-p Even Srixon has crept into the $1200 for a set. Good clarification! I think I still stand behind the statement though. I mean, I like so many here, have the same sickness and will spend on clubs regardless of the prices. But when the USGA, PGA, and Golf Manufacturers in general speak of growing the game I find it a hard pill to swallow when we see the ever increasing prices. Now, I know many are going to say inflation, costs are surely more on their end and they have to profit, etc... But when I think of someone knew coming in the game and getting caught by the bug.. They're in most cases unless they have a lot of expendable cash going to resort to the second hand used market more than they are going to go to the new market because of the price points growing like they are. Regardless, they're beautiful clubs that I can't take away from them nor would I. I just see the price increases by all these different OEMs and think wow that's salty. MattWillGolf 1 Quote BNewt51 Driver: TSi3 9* 3 Wood: TS2 14* Hybrid: Ping 425 17* and Ping 410 22* (interchangeable with 4 iron depending on conditions) Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-GW Wedges: Jaws 54 Wedge, Jaws 58 Hi-Toe Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Ball: Pro-V1 and Pro-V1x Hoofer - St. Judes Special Edition Bag Bushnell Range Finder (Patriot Pack) V-5 w/ Slope *King of taking (borrowing) all my club ***** friends clubs after they've discarded them after a couple months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, BNewton51 said: Good clarification! I think I still stand behind the statement though. I mean, I like so many here, have the same sickness and will spend on clubs regardless of the prices. But when the USGA, PGA, and Golf Manufacturers in general speak of growing the game I find it a hard pill to swallow when we see the ever increasing prices. Now, I know many are going to say inflation, costs are surely more on their end and they have to profit, etc... But when I think of someone knew coming in the game and getting caught by the bug.. They're in most cases unless they have a lot of expendable cash going to resort to the second hand used market more than they are going to go to the new market because of the price points growing like they are. Regardless, they're beautiful clubs that I can't take away from them nor would I. I just see the price increases by all these different OEMs and think wow that's salty. Unfortunately it’s inflation and supply chain issues. Most people can’t afford to buy a house right now because the price. Cars are getting outrageous so yeah it’s definitely something that will impact who can buy but even before that prices were on the rise. As golfers we have been spoiled with low prices and many forget how drivers were $500 in the late 90s. Technology and manufacturing is changing. Let’s take Callaway and their use of AI. That isn’t something cheap to use and they are using it for all the woods now. Then we look at graphite shafts and they are moving to better materials every year and that’s going to impact prices to an extent. The pxg effect has been felt in the industry now and they saw how they were able to sell clubs at a higher price point. The first couple years of pxg that effect wasn’t there but Callaway jumped in the train with the epic irons. Now everyone is in the $1000+ for iron sets. BNewton51 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, BNewton51 said: Many are going to spend regardless of the selling price. However, that doesn't mean that it justifies it. $1499 is just a bridge too far. Is that 5-PW or 4-PW? I mean, I'm as guilty as anyone for spending on clubs regardless... but there is a breaking point for everyone where they just say it's far too much money to spend on a set of irons when you still have to buy woods, wedges and putters. Just my opinion. A driver circa 1978 would cost over $1000 in today dollars. If you look at the history of club prices, yes they have always been expensive, however compared to almost every other product out there their price has actually come down not up. sirchunksalot, PMookie and BNewton51 3 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, THEZIPR23 said: A driver circa 1978 would cost over $1000 in today dollars. If you look at the history of club prices, yes they have always been expensive, however compared to almost every other product out there their price has actually come down not up. And the thing is **most** people are not buying new iron sets each year or even every other year. We're an anomaly. I don't think it's all that uncommon for people to hang onto iron sets for 10-12 years if they are not gearheads. Driver may see more turnover, but I know plenty of serious golfers that don't tinker with their bags. Even at $1,500/set, over five years at 20 rounds per year, that's $300/year or $15/round to use the clubs. If I'm a casual golfer spending $1,500 for irons, I'm not playing goat pastures, I'm likely paying $50+ for a round and $30 in drinks. $15 isn't much to add. Regardless, this release is very intriguing, especially in the retro spec lofts. Seems like such a configuration would split the forgiveness vs. loft jacking issue so many players distance irons have. I know Ping has been a long-time contributor to MGS Forum tests and really, really hope these are a testing opportunity this year. sirchunksalot, BNewton51, GolfSpy BOS and 3 others 6 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 5.8 / Anti-Cap: 12.5 (Last Updated June 6, 2023) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, edingc said: And the thing is **most** people are not buying new iron sets each year or even every other year. We're an anomaly. I don't think it's all that uncommon for people to hang onto iron sets for 10-12 years if they are not gearheads. Driver may see more turnover, but I know plenty of serious golfers that don't tinker with their bags. Even at $1,500/set, over five years at 20 rounds per year, that's $300/year or $15/round to use the clubs. If I'm a casual golfer spending $1,500 for irons, I'm not playing goat pastures, I'm likely paying $50+ for a round and $30 in drinks. $15 isn't much to add. Regardless, this release is very intriguing, especially in the retro spec lofts. Seems like such a configuration would split the forgiveness vs. loft jacking issue so many players distance irons have. I know Ping has been a long-time contributor to MGS Forum tests and really, really hope these are a testing opportunity this year. I have to agree with you there, and then even for some of the bigger gear heads, irons seem to have the most staying power in the bag. Drivers and Putters might be flipped weekly, but the middle of the bag seems to stay a bit longer. At least that's what I've noticed, could be wrong. These are an intriguing release. I'll want to take a swing and give them a look. BNewton51, sirchunksalot and edingc 3 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | KING MIM Black 52.12C, 56.10V, 60.04W - Nippon Modus 125 Wedge ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Traverse | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, edingc said: And the thing is **most** people are not buying new iron sets each year or even every other year. We're an anomaly. I don't think it's all that uncommon for people to hang onto iron sets for 10-12 years if they are not gearheads. Driver may see more turnover, but I know plenty of serious golfers that don't tinker with their bags. Even at $1,500/set, over five years at 20 rounds per year, that's $300/year or $15/round to use the clubs. If I'm a casual golfer spending $1,500 for irons, I'm not playing goat pastures, I'm likely paying $50+ for a round and $30 in drinks. $15 isn't much to add. Regardless, this release is very intriguing, especially in the retro spec lofts. Seems like such a configuration would split the forgiveness vs. loft jacking issue so many players distance irons have. I know Ping has been a long-time contributor to MGS Forum tests and really, really hope these are a testing opportunity this year. I see lots of old iron sets and wedges in bash with the random people I get paired with and driver is squally anywhere from 1-5 years old and fairway is the same even if the driver is new or relatively new edingc and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakman92 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Irons definitely stick around in people's bags. I just replaced mine this season after almost 10 years of playing RocketBladez. I see people with something much older like ping eye 2's and TM burner irons all the time. edingc and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Epic Max LS 11.5° (10.5°+1) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 stiff Epic Flash 3 Wood 17° (15°+2) w/ Project X Even Flow Green 60 stiff Super Hybrid 21° (20°+1) w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 80 stiff Rogue Hybrid 5 (24°) w/ Aldila Synergy 60 HYB Graphite stiff 2021 P790 Irons 5-AW (1° flat, weakened lofts) w/ Aerotech Steelfiber i95 cw regular CBX2 Wedges 54°, 58° w/ True Temper DG 115 Wedge flex Odyssey White Hot OG #1 Stroke Lab, 33 in Pro V1 Bushnell Launch Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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