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First and foremost, I guess we need to give the new format a chance. My thoughts:

  • (Regrettably) I lost interest in the best driver segment, needed to be edited by half (or scripted vs extemporaneous)? Off in the weeds a lot. I actually quit watching - then came back and FFWD to find the next topic a couple hours later.
  • The Mickelson segment was OK, but no new info. Time to move on, it’s a bore and embarrassment now.
  • I’m not surprised Harry is off, he didn’t talk as much and frankly didn’t look as interested when he was on. His comments were worthwhile, but I always had the sense NPG just took him away from testing.
  • Having the segment list on the (right side of) screen was a plus, add that back so we can see all the topics up front?
  • Miranda was a good add (as I noted earlier), that’s even clearer now.
  • Chris is technically good and I really like his writing. Like many, he’s a much better writer than speaker. He was my least favorite all along, now there are only two speakers…
  • Chris and Tony seemed to step on each other, compete for air time, some. 

But again, we need to give them a chance to find their footing. Might bloom, or it might fade away - TBD.

 

 

 

 

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I stopped this one around 12 minutes in. My mind was wandering everywhere and I wasn't paying attention because there wasn't much to that point to keep me listening. If this is the new format going forward, I admit I most likely won't be listening anymore.

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19 minutes ago, Middler said:

First and foremost, I guess we need to give the new format a chance. My thoughts:

  • I lost interest in the best driver segment, needed to be edited by half (or scripted vs extemporaneous)? Off in the weeds a lot.
  • The Mickelson segment was OK, but no new info. Time to move on, it’s a bore now.
  • I’m not surprised Harry is off, he didn’t talk as much and frankly didn’t look as interested when he was on.
  • Having the segment list on the (right side of) screen was a plus, add that back so we can see all the topics up front?
  • Miranda was a good add, that’s even clearer now.
  • Chris is technically good and I really like his writing. Like many, he’s a much better writer than speaker. He was my least favorite all along, now there are only two speakers…
  • Chris and Tony seemed to step on each other, compete for air time, some.

But again, we need to give them a chance to find their footing. Might bloom, or it might fade away - TBD.

 

Agree with a lot of your points.  
- I didn’t mind the driver segment as it was the most interesting.  Obviously since the release there were things that came up that should have been addressed, but based on comments the cottage has been in the can for a few weeks so the information is dated.

- Saudi League/Mickelson info was dated Simple’s because the information was recorded weeks ago.

- I did like having the topics on the screen too.  Hopefully the new video guy will add that type of stuff back into the edit

- Tony is a wealth of information and I am sure he could go very deep into the analytics of the testing but would lose the majority of the listeners if he did.  Always a fine line between too much and too little information but the explanation of how the results are determined is always informative.

- Chris’ articles are well written but I agree that he didn’t and doesn’t come across well in the NPG podcast.  

-  Doing speaking like this is hard and is definitely a skill that needs to be practiced.  Hopefully they get it back together.  I’m thinking they really need to figure out their identity; equipment testing and claim verification is the core of MGS; hope the guests and future conversation stays in this space.  

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The new format is definitely not as good and some of this segments topics didn't help.  It must be quite a challenge finding topics, or kernels within topics, in the era of 24/7/365 media. Amanda definitely added a good contrast in personality and it will be interesting to see if they try and replace her with another host.

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4 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

The new format is definitely not as good and some of this segments topics didn't help.  It must be quite a challenge finding topics, or kernels within topics, in the era of 24/7/365 media. Amanda Miranda definitely added a good contrast in personality and it will be interesting to see if they try and replace her with another host.

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I think the new format will work better.  Mirana was a great person, but did not add anything to the podcast.  I did not care for the "morning zoo/first take" vibes of the old podcast and rarely listened or watched.

More equipment "nerd" stuff and more  industry-focused guests is a good choice and I am for once looking forward to listening,.

I agree that they need to focus the conversations a bit more - Chris can get a bit all over the place and Tony can go down a rabbit hole of information (which i dont actually mine).

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I disagree. I think Miranda offered more than she got credit for, even though she doesnt know a ton about golf stuff. I like all 4 of them just fine, but LOVED the dynamic of the 4 together. Well have to see how this plays out…..🤞🤞🤞😞

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3 hours ago, Tyler86 said:

I disagree. I think Miranda offered more than she got credit for, even though she doesnt know a ton about golf stuff. I like all 4 of them just fine, but LOVED the dynamic of the 4 together. Well have to see how this plays out…..🤞🤞🤞😞

Miranda definitely knew how to keep the show moving and get from topic to topic. She was an excellent moderator. 

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They have a good bit of work to do that's for sure, but the knowledge and content is there just gotta sort out the presentation. 

It's probably worth deep diving successful podcast/hosts and taking notes to get back some the flow that Miranda brought to the party. 

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I only watched or listened to the podcast 2-3 times and I thought Miranda was a huge asset to the show. The guys are like the ex-NFL player now doing color analysis on a game broadcast, they provide expertise, but can't carry a show. It's why guys like Jim Nance make a fortune, cause they can naturally carry a conversation and keep a broadcast moving.

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I agree with most of the feedback from other MGSers.

I hope may be Miranda or someone else can do the hosting duties.  

I think Harry was a fun member of NPG, I hope he will join it again as well….

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I agree with much of the feedback. The comeback this week was a little rough.

This definitely needs a dedicated host and a little more segment structure. Why not give it a try with Bennett as host?

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That was awful.  I'll give NPG another shot but probably won't be tuning in after that.

 

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Seems like the reception of the show wasn't taken lightly as there wasn't a new episode put out this week. 

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Struggled to get through the episode. Definitely not as good. Poor flow and topics were either beat to death or old news. Preferred when they didn't talk any tour stuff, particularly as they had previously said they didn't care about the tour. Really liked the prior format but if this is what the future holds they should just forget it. 

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Although i don't know when, i do know there is another in the pipeline. 

I believe with any new format it will take time for them to find their stride and rhythm. 

I haven't listened to last weeks yet with all sorts of other things going on, but will likely try to catch up later this week.

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2 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Although i don't know when, i do know there is another in the pipeline. 

I believe with any new format it will take time for them to find their stride and rhythm. 

I haven't listened to last weeks yet with all sorts of other things going on, but will likely try to catch up later this week.

Hopefully the guys put a little more effort into the next one.

 

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2 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Although i don't know when, i do know there is another in the pipeline. 

I believe with any new format it will take time for them to find their stride and rhythm. 

I haven't listened to last weeks yet with all sorts of other things going on, but will likely try to catch up later this week.

With so many podcasts these days it can seem easy but like anything you gotta practice and get in the reps to do it well. 

They have the content and knowledge to make a podcast that's valuable to the golf community, there's no doubt about that. I just hope they push through the start and solidify a schedule because like you said it's gunna take time to find their rhythm.

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With my job, I spend a lot of time in my car, and I do listen to podcasts.  However until I saw this thread, I did not know about 'No Putts Given'. I have started listening and have been enjoying it very much.

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I have similar feedback to what has already been shared. I was a little disappointed in the new format, but I want to be fair and give it a few episodes.

I know this may not represent reality, but my perception was that this was done as an after-thought with little preparation. Not saying that is what actually happened, but that was my perception as a viewer.

I did have some follow-up questions on the change in how drivers are rated. How does this change previous years rankings? Being that the Ping G425 is now ranked as the most wanted driver, should it be viewed as the actual winner from the '21 Most Wanted testing as well since it was in that test pool? As this is just a shift in how you score various metrics, can't you apply this scoring calculation to previous tests? How would the Most Wanted Driver Shootout have been impacted by this new scoring formula? Will this new formula be used similarly for other tests (e.g. Irons, putters, balls, etc.)?

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