Middler Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 First and foremost, I guess we need to give the new format a chance. My thoughts: (Regrettably) I lost interest in the best driver segment, needed to be edited by half (or scripted vs extemporaneous)? Off in the weeds a lot. I actually quit watching - then came back and FFWD to find the next topic a couple hours later. The Mickelson segment was OK, but no new info. Time to move on, it’s a bore and embarrassment now. I’m not surprised Harry is off, he didn’t talk as much and frankly didn’t look as interested when he was on. His comments were worthwhile, but I always had the sense NPG just took him away from testing. Having the segment list on the (right side of) screen was a plus, add that back so we can see all the topics up front? Miranda was a good add (as I noted earlier), that’s even clearer now. Chris is technically good and I really like his writing. Like many, he’s a much better writer than speaker. He was my least favorite all along, now there are only two speakers… Chris and Tony seemed to step on each other, compete for air time, some. But again, we need to give them a chance to find their footing. Might bloom, or it might fade away - TBD. John Bachman, GolfSpy_SHARK, PMookie and 4 others 7 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment
russtopherb Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I stopped this one around 12 minutes in. My mind was wandering everywhere and I wasn't paying attention because there wasn't much to that point to keep me listening. If this is the new format going forward, I admit I most likely won't be listening anymore. John Bachman, Phazoni, PMookie and 2 others 5 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment
cnosil Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Middler said: First and foremost, I guess we need to give the new format a chance. My thoughts: I lost interest in the best driver segment, needed to be edited by half (or scripted vs extemporaneous)? Off in the weeds a lot. The Mickelson segment was OK, but no new info. Time to move on, it’s a bore now. I’m not surprised Harry is off, he didn’t talk as much and frankly didn’t look as interested when he was on. Having the segment list on the (right side of) screen was a plus, add that back so we can see all the topics up front? Miranda was a good add, that’s even clearer now. Chris is technically good and I really like his writing. Like many, he’s a much better writer than speaker. He was my least favorite all along, now there are only two speakers… Chris and Tony seemed to step on each other, compete for air time, some. But again, we need to give them a chance to find their footing. Might bloom, or it might fade away - TBD. Agree with a lot of your points. - I didn’t mind the driver segment as it was the most interesting. Obviously since the release there were things that came up that should have been addressed, but based on comments the cottage has been in the can for a few weeks so the information is dated. - Saudi League/Mickelson info was dated Simple’s because the information was recorded weeks ago. - I did like having the topics on the screen too. Hopefully the new video guy will add that type of stuff back into the edit - Tony is a wealth of information and I am sure he could go very deep into the analytics of the testing but would lose the majority of the listeners if he did. Always a fine line between too much and too little information but the explanation of how the results are determined is always informative. - Chris’ articles are well written but I agree that he didn’t and doesn’t come across well in the NPG podcast. - Doing speaking like this is hard and is definitely a skill that needs to be practiced. Hopefully they get it back together. I’m thinking they really need to figure out their identity; equipment testing and claim verification is the core of MGS; hope the guests and future conversation stays in this space. GAMBY3838, Middler, MattF and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
fixyurdivot Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 The new format is definitely not as good and some of this segments topics didn't help. It must be quite a challenge finding topics, or kernels within topics, in the era of 24/7/365 media. Amanda definitely added a good contrast in personality and it will be interesting to see if they try and replace her with another host. GAMBY3838, JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment
Middler Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 hours ago, fixyurdivot said: The new format is definitely not as good and some of this segments topics didn't help. It must be quite a challenge finding topics, or kernels within topics, in the era of 24/7/365 media. Amanda Miranda definitely added a good contrast in personality and it will be interesting to see if they try and replace her with another host. FIFY GAMBY3838 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment
null Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I think the new format will work better. Mirana was a great person, but did not add anything to the podcast. I did not care for the "morning zoo/first take" vibes of the old podcast and rarely listened or watched. More equipment "nerd" stuff and more industry-focused guests is a good choice and I am for once looking forward to listening,. I agree that they need to focus the conversations a bit more - Chris can get a bit all over the place and Tony can go down a rabbit hole of information (which i dont actually mine). MattF, JohnSmalls and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Link to comment
Tyler86 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I disagree. I think Miranda offered more than she got credit for, even though she doesnt know a ton about golf stuff. I like all 4 of them just fine, but LOVED the dynamic of the 4 together. Well have to see how this plays out….. John Bachman, Headhammer, JohnSmalls and 4 others 7 Quote Mavrik Max Driver M2 5W 818 hybrids Steelhead XR Irons ZipCore wedges SeeMore PR M7X Link to comment
John Bachman Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Tyler86 said: I disagree. I think Miranda offered more than she got credit for, even though she doesnt know a ton about golf stuff. I like all 4 of them just fine, but LOVED the dynamic of the 4 together. Well have to see how this plays out….. Miranda definitely knew how to keep the show moving and get from topic to topic. She was an excellent moderator. Headhammer, fixyurdivot, BK_Strozier and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
BK_Strozier Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 They have a good bit of work to do that's for sure, but the knowledge and content is there just gotta sort out the presentation. It's probably worth deep diving successful podcast/hosts and taking notes to get back some the flow that Miranda brought to the party. JohnSmalls, GAMBY3838, John Bachman and 1 other 4 Quote Ping G10 3 Wood, 15.5° Cobra Baffler, 3 hybrid Mizuno MP-67, 3-PW Ping Glide Forged Pro, 52° & 56° Evnroll, ER2 Link to comment
Headhammer Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I only watched or listened to the podcast 2-3 times and I thought Miranda was a huge asset to the show. The guys are like the ex-NFL player now doing color analysis on a game broadcast, they provide expertise, but can't carry a show. It's why guys like Jim Nance make a fortune, cause they can naturally carry a conversation and keep a broadcast moving. KC Golf, IndyArcher, Tyler86 and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment
KC Golf Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I agree with most of the feedback from other MGSers. I hope may be Miranda or someone else can do the hosting duties. I think Harry was a fun member of NPG, I hope he will join it again as well…. Quote TSR 3 9.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff U-510 19 Utility Iron HZDUS Smoke Black 6.0 Stiff 5-PW 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 - 35” / Super Stroke Slim 3.0 Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Loyal MCC Plus 4 Sensor User Link to comment
storm319 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I agree with much of the feedback. The comeback this week was a little rough. This definitely needs a dedicated host and a little more segment structure. Why not give it a try with Bennett as host? Quote TS2 9.5 909F2 15.5 690.CB 3-PW Vokey SM5 50, 56 Works Versa 1W Link to comment
PBH3 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 That was awful. I'll give NPG another shot but probably won't be tuning in after that. Quote Driver- Ping G410 Plus 9* Fairway- Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3 Wood 16.5* Hybrid- Tour Edge Hot Launch C521 19* & 22* Irons-PXG 0211 DC, 5-GW Wedges- Sub70 286 54* & Sub70 JB 58* Putter- Ping Sigma G Tyne (Superstroke grip) Ball- Snell MTB-X Maxfli Tour X Grips- Golf Pride CP2 Wrap Midsize Bag- Ping Hoofer USA Edition Arccos Link to comment
BK_Strozier Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Seems like the reception of the show wasn't taken lightly as there wasn't a new episode put out this week. Quote Ping G10 3 Wood, 15.5° Cobra Baffler, 3 hybrid Mizuno MP-67, 3-PW Ping Glide Forged Pro, 52° & 56° Evnroll, ER2 Link to comment
GAMBY3838 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Struggled to get through the episode. Definitely not as good. Poor flow and topics were either beat to death or old news. Preferred when they didn't talk any tour stuff, particularly as they had previously said they didn't care about the tour. Really liked the prior format but if this is what the future holds they should just forget it. fixyurdivot 1 Quote Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Although i don't know when, i do know there is another in the pipeline. I believe with any new format it will take time for them to find their stride and rhythm. I haven't listened to last weeks yet with all sorts of other things going on, but will likely try to catch up later this week. JohnSmalls and BK_Strozier 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
PBH3 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Although i don't know when, i do know there is another in the pipeline. I believe with any new format it will take time for them to find their stride and rhythm. I haven't listened to last weeks yet with all sorts of other things going on, but will likely try to catch up later this week. Hopefully the guys put a little more effort into the next one. Blueberry_Squishie 1 Quote Driver- Ping G410 Plus 9* Fairway- Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3 Wood 16.5* Hybrid- Tour Edge Hot Launch C521 19* & 22* Irons-PXG 0211 DC, 5-GW Wedges- Sub70 286 54* & Sub70 JB 58* Putter- Ping Sigma G Tyne (Superstroke grip) Ball- Snell MTB-X Maxfli Tour X Grips- Golf Pride CP2 Wrap Midsize Bag- Ping Hoofer USA Edition Arccos Link to comment
BK_Strozier Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Although i don't know when, i do know there is another in the pipeline. I believe with any new format it will take time for them to find their stride and rhythm. I haven't listened to last weeks yet with all sorts of other things going on, but will likely try to catch up later this week. With so many podcasts these days it can seem easy but like anything you gotta practice and get in the reps to do it well. They have the content and knowledge to make a podcast that's valuable to the golf community, there's no doubt about that. I just hope they push through the start and solidify a schedule because like you said it's gunna take time to find their rhythm. JohnSmalls 1 Quote Ping G10 3 Wood, 15.5° Cobra Baffler, 3 hybrid Mizuno MP-67, 3-PW Ping Glide Forged Pro, 52° & 56° Evnroll, ER2 Link to comment
Paul Hedrick Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) With my job, I spend a lot of time in my car, and I do listen to podcasts. However until I saw this thread, I did not know about 'No Putts Given'. I have started listening and have been enjoying it very much. Edited March 25, 2022 by Paul Hedrick cnosil, Tyler86 and JohnSmalls 3 Quote Bag C130, 14 way Cart Bag Driver TSR1 Fairway GBB Epic 5 Hybrid Epic Flash 4H Iron 2 iron Irons Launcher HB, 4 through PW Wedges CBX2, 54 & 60 degree Putter Seemore Si1 Putter Ball Titleist pro v1x Other Link to comment
Ryan M Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I have similar feedback to what has already been shared. I was a little disappointed in the new format, but I want to be fair and give it a few episodes. I know this may not represent reality, but my perception was that this was done as an after-thought with little preparation. Not saying that is what actually happened, but that was my perception as a viewer. I did have some follow-up questions on the change in how drivers are rated. How does this change previous years rankings? Being that the Ping G425 is now ranked as the most wanted driver, should it be viewed as the actual winner from the '21 Most Wanted testing as well since it was in that test pool? As this is just a shift in how you score various metrics, can't you apply this scoring calculation to previous tests? How would the Most Wanted Driver Shootout have been impacted by this new scoring formula? Will this new formula be used similarly for other tests (e.g. Irons, putters, balls, etc.)? GolfSpy_APH and PBH3 2 Quote Driver: Rogue ST LS, 10.5* w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 6s Woods: M2 Tour 3W HL/16.5* w/ Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Silver 70g Hybrids: 0317 X GEN4 3H/19* w/ Aldila NV Green Hybrid NXT 85g Irons: GEN5 0311P 4-A w/ ProjectX LZ Wedges: RTX4 / Vokey SM7 50*, Vokey SM9 56* & 60* Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Ball: Pro V1x Bag: Sun Mountain C130 Link to comment
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