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8 hours ago, Goober said:


Been watching a ton of this guys stuff. Like the baseball analogies. But just not grasping the concept I guess.Any simple thoughts please 

 

The simple answer: don’t watch YouTube golf instruction.   9:00 of rambling about multiple concepts with no real focus.  

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11 minutes ago, cnosil said:

The simple answer: don’t watch YouTube golf instruction.   9:00 of rambling about multiple concepts with no real focus.  

+1 Exactly

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Oy, my head hurts, and I didn't get halfway through.  In my opinion, learning about the golf swing is fine, and really interesting at times, but it doesn't help you to improve YOUR golf swing.  For that, you need a good instructor to evaluate your golf swing, and suggest specific changes that you need to make, one or two at a time.  As for this particular video, there may be some good information, but you almost certainly don't have the skill to pick out and incorporate the things that will matter to you.

 

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The first 2:48 of the video are pretty good.  He’s showing how the golf swing and swings/shots in other sports are quite similar.  But the video goes completely off the rails starting around 3:00.  He tosses out a few things that can go wrong, half complete thoughts on how things work and a few arguments with other instructors.  Hard pass on this video.
 

Mike Malaska (Malaska Golf) and Shawn Clement (Wisdom in Golf) have much better videos showing the similarity of the different swings and how paying attention to/feeling the movements (in say throwing a ball) can help one feel/understand/learn the golf swing.  
 

Malaska refers to this as “adjacency”.  In his book “I feel Your Pain,” he has a full section on it and talks about tennis, hockey, baseball and other sports and how one can transfer skills from those sports to golf.   

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For under $30 buy Efficient swing from rebellion golf.

If you want free signup for the free version of athletic motion golf. The free portion has their YouTube videos and drills broken down by segment. 
 

if you want YouTube only Chris Ryan has some of the best organized content.

https://athleticmotiongolf.com/memberships/

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I do have to ask as this is in the back of my mind,  The OP has commented multiple times that people shouldn’t watch YouTube videos and are overthinking the game and then posts this saying he watches and learns from YouTube videos and wants an interpretation if this particular video.   Does anyone else find this puzzling? 🤔 

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I've never taken lessons, and for my own reasons, I have no imminent plans to. Maybe I don't belong on this forum.

I learned my basic golf swing from the DIYer's YouTube predecessor known as a book (Jack's "Golf My Way"). Since picking up the game last year after over a decade away, my iPhone's video camera has helped me identify some (lifelong?) swing flaws, and a few poignant YT vids have helped me where they are concerned. Add in a few non-swing related vids and podcast episodes, and I've finally manage to improve from the mid-high 90s down into the 80s on occasion (never broken 90 before September). Clearly there's crap YT content to beware of, and clearly I'm not intending to brag about anything, especially surrounded by so many better players, but hopefully that improvement continues in 2022.

As far as this vid is concerned, it seems disjointed and difficult to follow after the initial moments. On the positive side, though, his side-by-side comparison of the two swings that get into plane from different positions at the top (~6:20) was educational to me, showing a couple of examples of how a player can take a full backswing in different ways and bring it on plane in the downswing. I won't be applying any of that myself, but I still found it interesting.

 

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6 minutes ago, Gusset said:

I've never taken lessons, and for my own reasons, I have no imminent plans to. Maybe I don't belong on this forum.

I learned my basic golf swing from the DIYer's YouTube predecessor known as a book (Jack's "Golf My Way"). Since picking up the game last year after over a decade away, my iPhone's video camera has helped me identify some (lifelong?) swing flaws, and a few poignant YT vids have helped me where they are concerned. Add in a few non-swing related vids and podcast episodes, and I've finally manage to improve from the mid-high 90s down into the 80s on occasion (never broken 90 before September). Clearly there's crap YT content to beware of, and clearly I'm not intending to brag about anything, especially surrounded by so many better players, but hopefully that improvement continues in 2022..

 

Not sure why you don’t think you belong on this forum as you didn’t specify.  The forum is made up of people that take lesson, people that are self taught, and any other approach you can think of.   Ultimately we are just here to talk golf, answer questions on where we have knowledge, and become “friends”.   There are disagreements approaches and strategies but we try to keep it civil. Everyone is welcome including new golfers who can’t break 150 to players playing competitive golf.  
 

id advise you to keep doing what your doing because it seems to be working.   
 

as for the video, yes there was lots of information I there to be gathered but it was very difficult to digest and explain what he was trying to communicate.   Basics were don’t rotate so much, there’s lateral movement like other sports…but not too much, in the transition you need to flatten your club, and you can transition to the downswing from a variety of club positions.   

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12 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Not sure why you don’t think you belong on this forum as you didn’t specify. 

I suppose I was just pushing back a bit against the initial responses in this thread (advising against watching YT golf instruction). Over-reaction on my part, my apologies.

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5 minutes ago, Gusset said:

I suppose I was just pushing back a bit against the initial responses in this thread (advising against watching YT golf instruction). Over-reaction on my part, my apologies.

Sorry about that;   If you read my follow up response, the OP has been criticizing people for watching YouTube instruction.  
 

personally, my only caveat on YouTube instruction is that people look for tips to fix a problem and if you use the wrong tip you could go down a bad path.  For example, There are 100s of ways to fix a slice but pick the wrong one and you don’t fix the slice so many be now you have two problems and when you try the tip that would have fixed the first problem you are still slicing.   
 

we golfers are stubborn people 😂

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11 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Sorry about that;   If you read my follow up response, the OP has been criticizing people for watching YouTube instruction.  
 

personally, my only caveat on YouTube instruction is that people look for tips to fix a problem and if you use the wrong tip you could go down a bad path.  For example, There are 100s of ways to fix a slice but pick the wrong one and you don’t fix the slice so many be now you have two problems and when you try the tip that would have fixed the first problem you are still slicing.   
 

we golfers are stubborn people 😂

I totally missed that. Wiping the egg off my face now. Also- indeed, yes, the world of YT advice and instruction is definitely a quagmire that has to be thoughtfully navigated. I can attest.

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3 hours ago, Gusset said:

I suppose I was just pushing back a bit against the initial responses in this thread (advising against watching YT golf instruction). Over-reaction on my part, my apologies.

I'm one of those who will consistently advise against searching YT for instruction, I just believe its more likely to be harmful rather than fruitful.  Even if a player takes some good video of his swing, most of us are going to see "symptoms", but will not have the knowledge to be able to determine the root cause of those symptoms.  For every visible "fault" there might be a dozen different root causes, and hundreds of bits of advice to fix that "fault".  If going the self-diagnosis and instrucitonal video route has helped you, that's great, but I think you're probably the exception.

All of that aside, if you're a golfer you're welcome at My Golf Spy.  

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12 hours ago, cnosil said:

I do have to ask as this is in the back of my mind,  The OP has commented multiple times that people shouldn’t watch YouTube videos and are overthinking the game and then posts this saying he watches and learns from YouTube videos and wants an interpretation if this particular video.   Does anyone else find this puzzling? 🤔 

This one came up on my YouTube quene.  But agree, I need to walk away from watching this stuff. I do like his baseball analogy ideas. But trying to conceive how i can achieve what he asks baffles me 

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9 hours ago, Goober said:

This one came up on my YouTube quene.  But agree, I need to walk away from watching this stuff. I do like his baseball analogy ideas. But trying to conceive how i can achieve what he asks baffles me 

It’s hard to walk away;   Seems like a good thing; you’ll just try this one thing.   Then more show up in the suggested videos and you watch another.   Can’t even watch one 😂

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To the OP - welcome - we have lots of divergent opinions on many things golf here - no big deal.  

 

I'm not a big fan of you tube videos but my current teacher makes them and I watch his because there's a consistency between what he i s teaching me in my video lessons.  He will recommend which of his videos to watch and which drills from those videos will work best for what I'm trying to accomplish.

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19 minutes ago, revkev said:

To the OP - welcome - we have lots of divergent opinions on many things golf here - no big deal.  

 

I'm not a big fan of you tube videos but my current teacher makes them and I watch his because there's a consistency between what he i s teaching me in my video lessons.  He will recommend which of his videos to watch and which drills from those videos will work best for what I'm trying to accomplish.

Perfect method for YouTube videos as they are chosen/recommended specifically for you and what you need to work on.  

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7 hours ago, cnosil said:

It’s hard to walk away;   Seems like a good thing; you’ll just try this one thing.   Then more show up in the suggested videos and you watch another.   Can’t even watch one 😂

I came off very rude with some of my early comments on this forum. Forgive me for that. But have to say I am enjoying watching the many YouTube videos. It’s seems all of these instructors really have some solid agendas. But as you stated, have to find the one who meshes with your swing issues. I still think trackman data and a proper club fitting are priorities with good instructions 

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17 minutes ago, Goober said:

I came off very rude with some of my early comments on this forum. Forgive me for that. But have to say I am enjoying watching the many YouTube videos. It’s seems all of these instructors really have some solid agendas. But as you stated, have to find the one who meshes with your swing issues. I still think trackman data and a proper club fitting are priorities with good instructions 

It happens don't worry about it.   We are all just trying to get better at a game that frustrates the heck out of us.       

I agree with you,  supplement my instruction with launch monitor information.   I am still in the fix big issue phase so seeing the data on a launch monitor just confirms some things.  

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have to say I really like this guy. This has more to do with ball flight. Which I really think is good instruction. And I love his name.  Bonar 

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