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My takeaway from the first video is to use the lower body to initiate transition not your arms/hands and then use legs / ground to drive through the ball much like other sports activities. 

Without saying it he seemed to be trying to get across that sequencing and timing can get you from different backswing positions to a good impact position.  

 

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16 hours ago, Goober said:

I came off very rude with some of my early comments on this forum. Forgive me for that. But have to say I am enjoying watching the many YouTube videos. It’s seems all of these instructors really have some solid agendas. But as you stated, have to find the one who meshes with your swing issues. I still think trackman data and a proper club fitting are priorities with good instructions 

To me, club fitting and swing improvements are a chicken and egg kind of discussion, which one SHOULD come first will depend on where you are with your game and your clubs right now.  As for a launch monitor, I think its great for clubfitting, but for most instruction I'm not sure its that valuable.  For most golfers and most stages of swing improvement, seeing your ball flight will give you all the information you need to understand what your swing path and clubface alignment are at impact.  And of course this is different if you're not able to practice outdoors, you do need some feedback, just beating balls into a net isn't necessarily productive, unless you're simply working on drills and mechanics.

1 hour ago, Shapotomous said:

My takeaway from the first video is to use the lower body to initiate transition not your arms/hands and then use legs / ground to drive through the ball much like other sports activities. 

Without saying it he seemed to be trying to get across that sequencing and timing can get you from different backswing positions to a good impact position.  

I'm not sure I got far enough along to agree with you, or disagree.  But why the heck didn't he actually say what he means?  I know, the video would have been much much shorter, and maybe a shorter video wouldn't seem to have as much value to his viewers, but there's not much value in the gobbledygook word hash he uses.  Its better to be understood in 100 words than not understood in 1000 words.

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41 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

...As for a launch monitor, I think its great for clubfitting, but for most instruction I'm not sure its that valuable.  For most golfers and most stages of swing improvement, seeing your ball flight will give you all the information you need to understand what your swing path and clubface alignment are at impact...

I couldn't agree more with this statement.

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1 hour ago, DaveP043 said:

To me, club fitting and swing improvements are a chicken and egg kind of discussion, which one SHOULD come first will depend on where you are with your game and your clubs right now.  As for a launch monitor, I think its great for clubfitting, but for most instruction I'm not sure its that valuable.  For most golfers and most stages of swing improvement, seeing your ball flight will give you all the information you need to understand what your swing path and clubface alignment are at impact.  And of course this is different if you're not able to practice outdoors, you do need some feedback, just beating balls into a net isn't necessarily productive, unless you're simply working on drills and mechanics.

Wishon and some others I’ve seen over the years have touched on this. Combining fitting while taking lessons is actually a good approach vice the chicken and the egg approach.

For the most part yes launch monitors for lessons are unnecessary same as a fitting. However the data is a good reference point at the start for the student to see what’s happening and then a confirmation for what the changes the instructor is having them make and how it correlates to the ball flight. While it may be too much for some golfers and those who like numbers work want it, it’s not inherently bad for lessons. In my experience golfers need to see numbers to trust the fitter or teacher. 

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I kinda enjoy the short to the point videos on YouTube. Some of the long ones are like watching a mini movie. But I guess they are really trying to drive their teachings home. 
 

Now I really want to play golf again and try some of this stuff. Stinks my last round was in late July. And with the snow on the ground I won’t play until May again. (Warm Weather Golfer Only here guys). If I’m not wearing a short sleeve golf shirt and shorts. Than I’m not out on the links 

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1 hour ago, DaveP043 said:

  As for a launch monitor, I think its great for clubfitting, but for most instruction I'm not sure its that valuable.  For most golfers and most stages of swing improvement, seeing your ball flight will give you all the information you need to understand what your swing path and clubface alignment are at impact.  And of course this is different if you're not able to practice outdoors, you do need some feedback, just beating balls into a net isn't necessarily productive, unless you're simply working on drills and mechanics.

Launch monitors are a tool that can be overused and in general I agree with your statements.   Some people;  myself included, can be argumentative or need to see more details; launch monitors can help show that you aren't doing what you think you are.  The biggest issue with launch monitors is that people chase numbers without real understanding.  An example where launch monitors were extremely beneficial for me was when I was working on my short game.  Via launch monitor data my instructor remotely confirmed that my clubface was closed to the path and it needed to be open to the path.   I was able practice and using a launch monitor to confirm that I was doing what my instructor wanted me to do and I could send data to my instructor for review.  This helped my build the feels that I needed to be more successful with my short game. 

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8 minutes ago, cnosil said:

An example where launch monitors were extremely beneficial for me was when I was working on my short game.  Via launch monitor data my instructor remotely confirmed that my clubface was closed to the path and it needed to be open to the path.   I was able practice and using a launch monitor to confirm that I was doing what my instructor wanted me to do and I could send data to my instructor for review.  This helped my build the feels that I needed to be more successful with my short game. 

This is an interesting use of a LM that I hadn't considered.  Actually two uses, application to short game, and remote instruction where the teacher can't see the ball flight.  My experience with remote instruction involves swing video, trying to improve mechanics, and using the video to evaluate success in making changes.  Ball flight wasn't an essential factor for the instructor to consider, the ball flight changes were a function of the success in changes to swing mechanics.  I think I mentioned earlier some thoughts about symptoms and root causes, the ball flight was essentially a symptom, the swing mechanics were a cause. 

Was this something that was not really apparent based on the ball flight on the short shots?  Or was it a tool the instructor used to confirm to you what he saw happening in your swing?

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18 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

This is an interesting use of a LM that I hadn't considered.  Actually two uses, application to short game, and remote instruction where the teacher can't see the ball flight.  My experience with remote instruction involves swing video, trying to improve mechanics, and using the video to evaluate success in making changes.  Ball flight wasn't an essential factor for the instructor to consider, the ball flight changes were a function of the success in changes to swing mechanics.  I think I mentioned earlier some thoughts about symptoms and root causes, the ball flight was essentially a symptom, the swing mechanics were a cause. 

Was this something that was not really apparent based on the ball flight on the short shots?  Or was it a tool the instructor used to confirm to you what he saw happening in your swing?

We did lots of things when working on my short game.  There were videos where he could see ball flight and there was LM data were we could evaluate what I was actually doing in the swing.   Symptoms were bad distance control, generally left, fat, and thin.   I'd send him some video hitting 50 yard shots and then launch monitor data hitting distances like 30, 40, 50, 60, 80.    As I got better, direction visually looked okay to me, but the face still wasn't in the right position.   With video,  you generally sent a few shots due to size,  with LM data,  I should send him a hundred shots where I hit random distances.   We never talked about you need to get to this number but talk about tendencies. 

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