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I give you 5 stars for this detailed post 😄

Seriously, one would think that there is nothing else to add to "how are testers chosen", but here comes a new thread with more details, new info, freshly updated for 2022. Good stuff, Jamie! 

Now... 2 more months for golf season to begin?

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

Bryan, from Bellingham, MA

Former Cobra Connect Champion

Play golf from the correct side of the ball ...Oh wait, you said NOT to apply here?

Thanks @GolfSpy_APH for writing this up and sharing with everyone.  This only helps be more clear on the process and the work that goes down so that we on this forum have the best product reviews/testing around.  Having this update posted and all the new equipment releases is starting to get me really excited for the 2022 season.  I hope that everyone has a chance to read through this.  

I know we're all hoping to have less supply chain disruption this year and hopefully with some of the updated we've made and are making the testing platform will run much smoother in 2022.

 

Of course it had to be you to do the joke post.... 
I'm happy to do this as we have had a lot of change over the last year from a testing platform to staff and more. It was about time we updated it a bit and with our new staff we look forward to seeing everyones applications as the testing season starts!

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 ⛳🛄 as of Sept 7, 2022 (Past WITB
Driver:   :callaway-small: Mavrik Sub Zero - Set at 9.5* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 4 iron or others....

Irons:     :Sub70: Sub70 659 TC Raw 5-Aw w/ KBS Tour 90 Stiff Black PVD

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:     :taylormade-small:/:titleist-small: (currently testing)

Other:     :Arccos: 

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Okay, while we're on the subject of testing products, am I the only one who wants to know how MGS Hit Squad testers are selected? Asking for a friend. 🙂

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1 minute ago, fixyurdivot said:

Okay, while we're on the subject of testing products, am I the only one who wants to know how MGS Hit Squad testers are selected? Asking for a friend. 🙂

That one is above my pay grade...

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 ⛳🛄 as of Sept 7, 2022 (Past WITB
Driver:   :callaway-small: Mavrik Sub Zero - Set at 9.5* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 4 iron or others....

Irons:     :Sub70: Sub70 659 TC Raw 5-Aw w/ KBS Tour 90 Stiff Black PVD

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:     :taylormade-small:/:titleist-small: (currently testing)

Other:     :Arccos: 

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Love the transparency. No other golf site provides this level of transparency (and if they did, it would show just how much of a sham their selection process is)

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I'll definitely try to sign up for a couple tests and maybe get lucky and be picked.

If I got picked to test a driver, it would be interesting to see whether that driver shows up before the TSi3 i ordered in December, lol... 😕

With my long irons/hybrids spots in a bit of a flux right now, I wouldn't mind trying some hybrids from other companies and I would entertain testing a mallet putter... though it would be hard pressed to kick my CraZ-e from the bag. Might be an interesting comparison for MGS though... "Can a new putter beat out my 20yr old gamer?"

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Driver: :titelist-small: TSi3* 10° HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 60g 6.5 D2**

3 Wood: :titelist-small: TSi2 16.5° Kuro Kage Black 55-S A1**

Hybrids: :titelist-small: TS2 17° HZRDUS Smoke Black 90HY 6.5 A1**

               :titelist-small: TSi3* 20°  EvenFlow White 90HY 6.5X D4** 

               :titelist-small: TSi2 24° TENSEI AV RAW Blue Hybrid 80HY-S D4** 

Irons:  :titelist-small: 716 AP2 6-GW TT S300 (GW is S100) 

Wedges: :titelist-small: SM8 Jet Black 54.14°F, 58.08°M Wedge Flex

Putter: :ping-small:  G2i Craz-E 

*All clubs with an adjustable weight, are set to neutral  **Hosel setting

Ball: Kirkland V2 or Maxfli StraightFli Green (for days I'm having trouble tracking the ball)

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Doesn’t get much more concise than that.  Thanks Bryan!

 

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3 hours ago, Kanoito said:

 

Now... 2 more months for golf season to begin?

I'm trying not to think about it... without much success lol.

I got to play several times in December but as soon as Jan1 got here, winter finally decided to make an appearance and end the season for me. Been hitting foam balls into the wall of my garage and going to a local shop and "testing" used clubs in the sim to try and keep my swing muscles fresh.

Driver: :titelist-small: TSi3* 10° HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 60g 6.5 D2**

3 Wood: :titelist-small: TSi2 16.5° Kuro Kage Black 55-S A1**

Hybrids: :titelist-small: TS2 17° HZRDUS Smoke Black 90HY 6.5 A1**

               :titelist-small: TSi3* 20°  EvenFlow White 90HY 6.5X D4** 

               :titelist-small: TSi2 24° TENSEI AV RAW Blue Hybrid 80HY-S D4** 

Irons:  :titelist-small: 716 AP2 6-GW TT S300 (GW is S100) 

Wedges: :titelist-small: SM8 Jet Black 54.14°F, 58.08°M Wedge Flex

Putter: :ping-small:  G2i Craz-E 

*All clubs with an adjustable weight, are set to neutral  **Hosel setting

Ball: Kirkland V2 or Maxfli StraightFli Green (for days I'm having trouble tracking the ball)

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12 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Hello all! (Apologies for how long this is, but I want to cover as much as I can)

As we approach the 2022 testing season it is a good idea for us as a mod staff and community to welcome all the incoming members and guide them in how to best improve everyones chances of becoming a MGS Community tester. 

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First please do NOT apply in this thread. It won’t help and any and all signups are done through the individual testing signups throughout the season.
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Also a few quick house keeping notes before getting into it.
- have questions about the process or anything that may have been left out? Just ask!
- As mods we try to be as transparent as we are allowed to be and won’t hide things from the community as we are members just like you!
- We hope to have a lot of new opportunities this year and encourage everyone to take a look at these pretty basic steps in order to better your chances.
- Don’t want to read through the thread? Check out the FAQ page 

 

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Okay! So a lot of this may be repeat and many of you will already know this, but here we go!

You must be a MGS Forum Member in order to be selected.
- Sounds pretty straight forward, but I ran some of the numbers and on average 90% of our signups are what I would classify as one off signups with 1 or fewer posts. Then if we look at those with 50 or more posts that number is only 2% of the overall signups.

Complete your profile!
- This includes a profile picture - this is one of the first things we look for with tester selections.
- Although the new Player Profile is not a requirement, it is high encouraged and will not only help us, but you and other members. For you, signups will be quicker as much of the info is pulled from your profile and for members it helps them see how their game relates to their own.

Get involved!
- I want to state that we actively work to get a well rounded group for all testing selections. This includes attempting to get at least one brand new tester per test as well as include international members as well.
- That being said, being active on the forum, creating new content for the community is huge. We want to make sure the OEM and community gets the best possible review (I mean completed, not good as in praise) and having a body of work even if minimal is important.
- Only ever involved in sign up testing threads? Not likely going to increase your chances. Just being honest, likely not going to happen.

Really want to stand out?
- Do a unofficial review! We may have more on this coming soon which will hopefully help our review catalogue, but having unofficial review gives us a insight as to what you are able to do! 

- Want to make it a more official unofficial review? Send us a PM and we can provide you with the template that is used for all the official reviews.
Do you have to be a donor?
- No, although being a donor can be used as a tie breaker it is not a necessity to become a tester. Not only that but we cannot see how much anyone has donated.
- While we are on this, if you have donated and don’t have the tag send myself (tag) a PM with your transaction number for it to be added.

That is the basics to becoming a tester. Pretty simple right? We don’t ask for much, but we do want to see these things in order to make our selections more trustworthy.

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Now all the other nuances

I believe it is important for us (mods) to be transparent about all of this as again we are members like you as I said.

So for those that don’t know or want a bit of a sneak peak of what happens behind closed doors… or computer screens let me do a bit of a run down for everyone.

Once a test is created everyone signs up and during this process we actively take a look at who has applied and create a short list. We are fortunate to have a wealth of info at our disposal to make this a robust list.

Examples? We look at recent activity, been a tester before? We look at your review(s) grades (more on this later), yes donor status, number of posts, number of reactions, location, handedness, and more.

As well the mods add in notes for thoughts on each member who has made a short list. We also look at what members have tested in the past. If you tested a set of irons the previous year, chances are we won’t look to do another iron selection for this year.

There is no limit to how many members we can have on a short list, it can be 5 or it can be 40. All depends on how everyone feels about the members who have applied.

We aim to have the short list completed within 2-3 days after the signup has closed. It is then roughly a week later that we want our 4 or however many testers are required to be selected and then announced before moving onto the next test.

In order for us to select someone for testing it needs the go ahead from at least 3 mods. This way no one mod can control or have bias towards certain testers.

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What happens after being selected?

- A group PM is made with the selected testers asking if they agree to completed and participate in the review process. We expected good efforts on all reviews and for members to follow the guidelines/templates and instructions from the mods during the process. It is perfectly okay for someone to back out. It happens, life happens and maybe the commitment is too much which again is perfectly okay! In that case we go back to our short list and grab someone else.|

- Remember reviews are work and not just winning a prize.

- After everyone has agreed to completing the review and participating we move onto the order process for the product (if fittings are required this can take a little longer) the order is placed through the mods and we wait for the product to arrive.

- During this time intros are worked on and when the product arrives unboxing/first impression posts are completed.

- After everyone has their kit we (mods and testers) discuss a timeframe for when reviews are to be completed (this was a complicated one last year with product wait times…)

- Final reviews are posted then as mods we have more work to do as reviews are graded. This is outlined in the templates for testers to see as well as what makes for a 1 out of 5 and 5 out of 5 and everything inbetween.

- These grades are REALLY important. As if someone bails on a review, it is good luck getting in on another review. We take pride in these reviews and our selections and being ghosted or having someone take zero effort is really disappointing.

- For reference we understand life happens and there can be situations that cause someone to have a review completed late or something come up which make it harder to do the review and are of course lenient. I will send several follow up messages for those that are late in posting or gone mia, but after a few of those I will record it in our overall record that said member has gone mia and should not be considered for further reviews. 

Review grades are used for future selections. Good review scores better a testers chances at another review in a following year where poor reviews lesson those chances. So as a first time tester it is certainly best to do the work and get in a good review IF you want to better your chances next year.

We do our best as a mod team to promote and create engagement within each review thread (last year with the new system was tough we all know), but in the end it is a lot on the testers to put out updates during their review to bring eyes to the thread.

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Finally a few general rules of thumb

- Testers are generally only selected for one test per season. Exception being a Golf Ball test or lesser valued items.

- Brand new testers are often selected for lower valued items, like golf balls. However this is not exclusive. Example I was selected for Ping i210 irons with my first ever review. Again it is a general guideline and a first time tester who has put out good content to the community can of course be selected for a higher valued item.

- Testers are generally not selected for the same equipment type year over year. Meaning tested a driver last year? More likely you won’t get a driver test again this season. Again general rule as sometimes it is interesting to see someone test the progress of a product year over year. 

Apply for what you WANT to test. Of course you can apply for everything and anything, but truly it is best to apply for a product that excites you. It is pretty easy for us to notice the same name applying in testing for every single test even when they are currently testing a product! 

Most importantly, enjoy the experience, have fun with it and ask questions. Be creative and although there is a template do what you can within those guidelines and make a unique review that will be remembered.

Finally follow up is encouraged, whether it be with the mods or in the testing thread it is noticed and very much encouraged as members are often still curious about what is going on. 


For those that made it ALL the way down here, well done. Seriously. Have more questions just ask away!

This is a wonderful overview of the process to become a tester. I was fortunate to be chosen to test the Evnroll ER11v last year after throwing my name in on several testing opportunities. It was my first testing experience and it was a great experience. I’d say also choose testing opportunities that within your comfort zone and abilities. I hope that makes sense. My game would keep me from choosing a low spin driver or blades for example. The MGS Forum team was most supportive throughout the review process. It was well worth the time to go perform a full review. In this case it led to an improvement in my putting. The review process “forced” me to practice and concentrate on my putting. That alone made it worthwhile. As is having a new putter to game. 

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I think the detailed guidelines you've given are great! I've been a tester twice, and I'll echo that I'd love to see feedback on my reviews.

I'm unlikely to apply again, unless it's something really specific to my needs, and it would have to be in "high season", or I won't be able to put the time in. Still, maybe you'll put that unicorn product out there for me!

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3 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

Former Cobra Connect Champion

I mean being from Boston, I fell that we need a few asterisks here.

Have MGS collected and tested Bryan's golf balls to test the pressure? dimple count and such?

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Quick question - @GolfSpy_APH Will the submission form be the same as it was last year? Asking about number of rounds played, strength/weakness, etc?

If so, how does that information factor into the selection process?

 

Thank you for this update! Very transparent, mod team!

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Thank you for the info. As someone who has tested before as well as performing an unofficial test, it is nice to know all the other requirements that will help increase our chances of being able to test again. It was a really fun opportunity and made me pay attention to certain parts of my game that I hadn't really thought about before. Here's to the future!

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Irons: Taylormade Stealth 4-Gap (Fujikura Ventus Blue Graphite 7S Stiff)

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Thanks for the overview of the tester selection process.  I live just far enough away to never be part of the Hit Squad.  I have applied for testing opportunities in the past, but have yet to be selected.  It’s all good though as I have enjoyed the reviews.  I have learned much and the MGS team strives to give us good info not Mfg suggested promo info.  I am looking forward to maybe getting in on a test this year….

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12 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

 

First please do NOT apply in this thread. It won’t help and any and all signups are done through the individual testing signups throughout the season.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Okay! So a lot of this may be repeat and many of you will already know this, but here we go!

You must be a MGS Forum Member in order to be selected.
- Sounds pretty straight forward, but I ran some of the numbers and on average 90% of our signups are what I would classify as one off signups with 1 or fewer posts. Then if we look at those with 50 or more posts that number is only 2% of the overall signups.
 

 

7 hours ago, azstu324 said:

Not gonna lie... This stat kinda blew my mind to outer space.. 😱

This write up should be published as genuine MGS doctrine! 😜 Great work and insight on how the testing process works from the inside out. 

 

7 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

Bryan, from Bellingham, MA

Former Cobra Connect Champion

Play golf from the correct side of the ball ...Oh wait, you said NOT to apply here?

 

@GolfSpy_APH Great post about becoming a tester!!

Over the years I am also pretty amazed that people applying for the opportunity to test and keep products don't spend the time to read the directions.  Over and over again... even after being told what to do and not do!  

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