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Spikes or Spikeless  

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  1. 1. Spikes or Spikeless?

    • Spikes only!
      68
    • Mostly spikes, sometimes spikeless
      61
    • About 50:50
      38
    • Mostly spikeless, sometimes spikes
      51
    • Spikeless only
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Wore spikes till last April when I forgot my golf shoes in the trunk of my car as I left on my golf trip 🤦🏼‍♂️ So I had to use my tennis shoes for 72 holes. Noticed zero difference and my feet felt awesome, whereas before they would feel tired. Now I wear spikeless FJ Coastal Flex golf shoes and they are great. Never slip at all. 

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For the most part I wear spiked Puma's. My area of TN has some pretty nasty red clay soil. I am also a dew sweeper. You need all the traction you can get. Ocassionally with several dry days in a row or an afternoon round the spikeless come out.

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:cobra-small: 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 

:cobra-small: 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex

:cobra-small: Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap)

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Spikes only - it prevents disaster.

Tried cute plastic nubbies circa 1998 when metal spikes were being phased out. Was taking a golf lesson, my left foot gave way with nubbies, I did a standing split, tore a thigh muscle, and couldn't exercise at all for 6 weeks. Needless to say, golf season was shot.

Courses I play on normally have a few holes with hillside fairways or greens that are cliff hangers. In last decade:

  • Playing a casual round in traction sole cross-training shoes, left a ball halfway up a steep bunker bank. Had to take unplayable lie penalty because I couldn't get a stance on the hillside.
  • A beginner I was playing with was playing in street shoes with softish shoes. Takes a shot from a damp area in the rough, his foot slips and he sprains his wrist breaking his sprawl.
  • Hitting out of a cliffhanger pot bunker, one foot below and the other above, I bail out backwards and twist my knee badly. I withdraw after ninth hole. And this was with decent soft spikes.

Our area has two fairly flat par 3 courses where I might play with spikeless or even cross-train shoes. But everywhere else I want spikes!

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Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° set 9.5°, weights neutral  ||  Fairways:  Calla Rogue 4W (17°) + 7W (21°)
Hybrid: Callaway Big Bertha Osize 4H (22°)  ||  Irons:  Callaway Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  Calla MD3 / 48°,  and... MD4 / 54° , 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced)
Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred), or Srixon QStar Tour

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West both about the same although ive bought more spiked shoes lately.

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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On 3/14/2022 at 4:09 PM, Middler said:

I prefer to walk, and spikeless are more comfortable. I’ve found traction with spikeless is far better than I expected nowadays (probably not the case with older generations of spikeless shoes). I’m sure there are more comfortable spiked shoes nowadays too.

I think this is a point a lot of people overlook when comparing the two.  Certainly spikeless shoes are going to be way more comfortable than an old school set of heavy soled FJ Dryjoys, but when I was last shoe shopping a season or so ago, pretty much all of the advancements people talk about for spikeless shoes also apply to spikes.  I have a pair of Pumas, Adidas and UA shoes and all are very comfortable and I didn't notice a huge weight difference between those and spikeless shoes.  In general, I think all golf shoes have just gotten better.

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10 hours ago, ChitownM2 said:

I think this is a point a lot of people overlook when comparing the two.  Certainly spikeless shoes are going to be way more comfortable than an old school set of heavy soled FJ Dryjoys, but when I was last shoe shopping a season or so ago, pretty much all of the advancements people talk about for spikeless shoes also apply to spikes.  I have a pair of Pumas, Adidas and UA shoes and all are very comfortable and I didn't notice a huge weight difference between those and spikeless shoes.  In general, I think all golf shoes have just gotten better.

I don’t doubt that. Spikes have gotten more comfortable, and spikeless have WAY better traction and stability than previous models. Those judging based on their experience in 1998, or similar, might want to reconsider - their opinions are just out of date. That said, you can still buy (less comfortable) old school FJ spikes (some people still prefer them) - you can’t buy spikeless shoes as bad as those sold in 1998.

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6 minutes ago, Middler said:

 their opinions are just out of date. 

This is a very common theme, regardless of the topic 😄

 

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Fairway: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft

Hybrids: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft

Irons:  :callaway-small: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite  TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright

Wedges: Edison 53* and  57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright

Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft

Ball:  Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: :ping-small: Pioneer...Shoes: :footjoy-small: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather

 

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  • 3 months later...

Wet Conditions: Spikes

Dry Conditions: Spikeless

Driver: :cobra-small: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft

3 Wood: :cobra-small: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft

2 & 3 Hybrids: :cobra-small: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft

Irons: :cobra-small: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts

Wedges::callaway-logo-1: PM Grind 54* & 58*

Putter: :odyssey-small: Dual Force Rossi II

Ball: Whatever I find in the woods

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On 3/14/2022 at 9:06 PM, GaDawg said:

FootJoy 51771 Green Suede

😁

When Ken Greene used to play the PGA Tour he wore a pair just like them

Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha  Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56*  Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick 

 

 

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Have 16+ pair of golf shoes……about half n half spiked/spikeless.

Current favorite pair is my Duca de Cosma

 

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Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.png0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.png0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: None in bag at the moment

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm).

Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or  ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707,   or Nike Method Core Drone  w/Evnroll Gravity Grip

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). 

Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel

Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder

 

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I REALLY like the Footjoy Premier Field which don't have "spikes" but I'm not sure they can be considered "spikeless" - extremely comfortable and light, but most of my shoes are more traditional soft spiked (Traditions Shield Tip, Traditions Saddles, & my favorite tourney shoes - white Premier Tarlows) .

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  • Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1
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  • Callaway Paradym 4-PW
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In my world, there are no longer any "spikes" clubs got rid of them to save on their flooring bills a long time ago.  I miss the sound of steel on concrete and the grip you got from them. Many younger players never have had the experience of "real" spikes and never will. Too bad, I loved them and used them up until the last day. Still have a brand new pair of Foot Joy classics with steel spikes, unused new in the box.

You get poor footing from either molded soles or molded soles with screw on's.  Now days, I just swing easier, hit the ball shorter and less accurately and accept it.  But boy does the carpet in the clubhouse look better!

If it were up to me I'd bring back real steel spikes in a heartbeat.  Now that's it's legal to tap down spike marks that is no longer an issue, while the "softspikes" dent up the greens something horrible, when the sun is low you can see all greens today look like waffles. You can't tap down softspike marks, it would be like turning a waffle into a pancake.

Maybe we should all go to boat shoes with smooth soles?

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Professional Tour Players = 95% spiked shoes / 30% wearing metal spike combinations.  All but 2 wins on PGA Tour this year in spiked shoes.

Superior traction means superior performance and Pro's realize the benefits of traction and stability for more distance and better accuracy.  Distance from the ground up.

Spikeless offers comfort and casual styles, but after extended use, lose their traction performance substantially.  With no replaceable spikes, you are left with an expensive (but waterproof) pair of gardening shoes.

Replying to a few post on here about Tiger Woods current shoe preference.  Tiger is currently wearing FJ Signature Series spike models with Champ Pro Stinger metal cleats.  Tiger has worn metal exclusively in competition rounds or many years.

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The biggest issue with spikes on the greens, whether they be metal or Softspikes, is the people wearing them and dragging their feet.  There is etiquette there also.  They can be tapped down and repaired properly but people fail to do so or do know how.  Spent a few extra minutes this morning repairing spike marks at our course where some "idiot" had been obviously doing the electric slide around the flag.  Mission accomplished.  Bringing back metal spikes for the masses, NOT.  The pros know what they are doing and not everyone on the tour wears them.  A lot of players are wearing the FJ Premiere shoes and some of those are spikeless.  Even Tiger is wearing FJ Premiere shoes, said only shoe he could find that is stable enough for him.     

 

Driver - TSi3 10.75* - Fujikura Speeder 661 TR

Fairway - TSi2 14.25* - Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 

Fairway - TSR1 17.0* - Fujikura Vista Pro 65S

Hybrid - TSR1 20.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75  

Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75

Irons - T350 (2023) - 6-48W - True Temper AMT Red 95g-107g

Wedges - Vokey SM9 - 52.08F, 56.10S - True Temper AMT Red 94 

**  GolfPride MCC +4 Midsize Grips  (all woods/irons/wedges)

Putter - 2023 Scotty Cameron Super Select Squareback 2 35" 

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Spikeless.  No changing those damn spikes and the traction is just fine.  They wear out just buy a new pair.

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Callaway Rogue ST Max 10.5° driver w/stiff Xcaliber Avalon 5 shaft
Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3-wood w/stiff Xcaliber Mystic 5 shaft
Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3-hybrid w/stiff Xcaliber RT shafts shaft
Malby KE4 Max irons with reg Xcaliber RT shafts
Callaway Jaws full toe 60° wedge with Project X Catalyst 80 wedge graphite shaft
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Just stay off concrete. I bought 2 pairs of Sketchers spikeless shoes and did an experiment. I alternatively used 1 pair only on the course (put them on when I got to the first tee). The other pair I put on at home and wore them to the pro shop, the range, the clubhouse afterwards, to the IGA store on the way home, etc. The all-activity shoes were wasted after less than 2 months - the other pair is still functional after 6 months.

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Here's my decision factor:

1. When you have a pair of soft spike shoes, and the spikes wear out, you buy a new set of spikes for $15.

2. When you have spikeless shoes and nubs wear off the soles, you buy a new pair of shoes. Nope.

 

I take care of my shoes so they last for several years, so it's spikes for me.

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On 3/14/2022 at 4:13 PM, ChuckZ said:

Just depends on how I feel when I get up in the morning.  I am a FJ guy and the only brand I will wear.  This is based on over thirty five years of experience with great performance, fit, wear and customer service.  Still have a good collection of MyJoy DryJoy tours, MyJoy Icon, which are spiked shoes.  The new Premiere and Tradition shoes I have in my rotation are spiked are some of the best FJ has made in years.  Do play a lot of rounds in my many Pro/SLs.  Waiting on the new Fields in white/red to be released which are spikeless. Find all these styles grip well in all kinds of weather.  I have two pair of the Flex XP and five pair of the Flex but do not wear them to play golf in.  Some golfers do, but I wear them to work in, for casual wear and on the range.   They do have enough grip to play in on a dry sunny day, unless you are trying to swing out of your shoes.  😃

I was a FJ guy to until I got a pair from Bunkerless Golf, like wearing slippers

 

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2 hours ago, labillyboy said:

In my world, there are no longer any "spikes" clubs got rid of them to save on their flooring bills a long time ago. 

You are referring to metal spikes...right?  Can't imagine clubs not allowing the shoes available today with non-metal "spikes" on the bottoms, the ones that are rubber or plastic. 

I too miss the sound of metal spikes crunching on concrete. 

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I used to be spike in wet and spikeless summer conditions.  I started wearing some Code chaos spikeless in the winter and I found them to have as good as traction as spiked esp. after getting the spikes clogged with grass.  No issues with grass sticking to the spikeless.  My only complaint was the Code chaos heals on the inside wore out in 1/3 of a season.  I sent them in for warranty but was told that was normal.  They are the only shoes to have ever worn out so fast.  The traction bottom was still like new. 

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Ping 3W 425 TENSI orange shaft stiff

Ping 5W 425 TENSI orange shaft stiff

Ping 4 Hybrid orange shaft stiff

Taylormade 790 5 -A irons w/ Aerotech Steelfiber I 95 stiff shafts

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I have a really bad right knee and any slipping can end my golf week.  I jumped on the spike less bus but found that they tend to get filled up with dirt and then they slip.   On super hot dry ground I wear my off road running shoes and they hold really well.

Driver: Titleist TSR 3 10* Accura TZ6 M3 65g

Fairways: Callaway Rogue 15* & 19* Matrix Ozik TP 6 HD stiff 

Hybrid: Titleist TSI 4 & 5 Hybrids Mitsubishi Tensi AV 65 HY X stiff   

Irons:  KZG Forged III 6-P Accura iS7 (Refinished and regrooved)

Wedges: Cleveland CBX  50*, Taylormade MG 3 Tiger grind 56 bent to 54/10 & Taylormade MG 4 Tiger grind 56 bent to 58/14

Putter: Positive Putter's Custom P2 (think Edel putter meets Heavy Putter)

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Last year I decided to give spikeless a try.  I've always been an Adidas guy wearing the Tour 360 spiked for several years.  Bought a pair of their CodeChaos spikeless and loved them.  Great traction and comfort.  Like them so much I picked up a second pair. 

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Mostly spiked. Walk most of the time and there are a couple steep parts where you have to walk on the asphalt cart path and I do not feel safe in spikeless shoes if there is any moisture on the path.

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I play early mornings, often times the grass is still wet from the morning dew.  Spikeless just didn't grip well enough for me.  My feet kept slipping.  I ended up giving them away...

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For me, it all depends on the course conditions.  If it’s going to be wet, I’m going with spikes, if it’s on the dryer side, I go spikeless.  However, my overall preference is spikeless.

I play a Titleist TS3 9 degree driver, Ping G410 14.5 degree 3 wood, Titleist 818 H1 19 degree hybrid, Titleist 718 CB 4-9 irons, Vokey 46, 52, 56 and 60 degree wedges, with an Odyssey Black Series 1 putter.

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Loved my Puma Faas Lite and then Skechers for years. But I have trouble with my weight transfer and need all the traction I can get. Love my Puma Ignite PWRADAPT withe disc system. Molds to my feet and I feel anchored.

Callaway Epic Max driver

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Callaway Mavrik Max 4-6 hybrids

Callaway Mavrik Max 7-AW irons

Callaway MD 5 sand and lob wedges

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