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Just watched the LIV interesting format with team event. Party atmosphere. Wonder if it will survive. Golf wasn't the best, but I say give it a chance. 
 

It's great for the golfers to only have to play 8 events and have a home life. Especially for the about to me senior guys, no way they would make this money on the Champions tour. 

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I watched the entire final round and I enjoyed it. I like the shotgun start and liked the team aspect. Considering this was there 1st event, I'd say it was well done.

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I enjoyed what I saw of it. Shwartzel was definitely playing better than anyone and deserved the win.

One thing has been nagging me a bit- with a field of 48 do they boot the underperforming players to make room for Dechambeau, Reed and Perez? Honestly, that would make it a bit more interesting for me. Sure you're guaranteed $120k for being in the field, but you're not guaranteed a spot next time. There's a bit of drama if Koepka or Na gave up tour status for 1x checks....

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From golfers only point of view, obviously most lucrative, many are getting paid more signing bonus money than their lifetime golf earnings in golf and top prize money for individuals and teams for each event. Great place for golfers to go who want to reduce time away golfing with the very restricted eg. 8 events a year and multiple times earning vs PGA.

Great for golfer viewer because it is totally free to watch and you can watch it whenever you want, don't have to watch it live so you can go golfing on weekends and then watch it at night.

LIV never has to make money so it will be around forever because of the wealth of the backers and reason for its creation.

Have to give a big admiration to Tiger for turning down likely close to billion dollars to be on this tour and to Jack for turning down $100M. The reduced schedule of 8 events and only 3 days (54 holes) with shot gun starts would be perfect for Tiger because of all of his injuries and inability to play regular PGA golf.

Having Bryson will be good for this tour since he can be a big draw to watch him be the big hitter and risk taker. Having Patrick Reed is also a big bonus as he is the bad boy cheater of golf and obviously will continue with all that money on the line so again will draw viewers.

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Another great example of why LIV showing more shots is such a big deal... Switched from featured group coverage to the broadcast and missed out on numerous shots while Faldo and Nantz pontificated about LIV and then switched to course details, to show 2 shots of Thomas (who was co-leader until a few minutes ago) before breaking to commercial. UGH...

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2 minutes ago, TR1PTIK said:

Another great example of why LIV showing more shots is such a big deal... Switched from featured group coverage to the broadcast and missed out on numerous shots while Faldo and Nantz pontificated about LIV and then switched to course details, to show 2 shots of Thomas (who was co-leader until a few minutes ago) before breaking to commercial. UGH...

As much as i get that. I watch on Eurosport and yeah it's in Italian or German, but there is maybe one commercial per hour. 

Sky is much better so well.

Sucks for everyone in US and Canada who get 3 commercial breaks every 12 minutes, but that isn't the viewing experience worldwide.

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2 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

As much as i get that. I watch on Eurosport and yeah it's in Italian or German, but there is maybe one commercial per hour. 

Sky is much better so well.

Sucks for everyone in US and Canada who get 3 commercial breaks every 12 minutes, but that isn't the viewing experience worldwide.

I am from Canada and watched LIV on their website yesterday no commercials, I watched it not live, best way to watch don't have to waste your weekday/ weekend days to watch all the golf coverage. Good for viewers, free to watch.

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Great thing about LIV is you will likely be able to binge watch it on free streaming, like TV now a days who watches live TV when you can stream it at your convenience.

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Here's the next wave of players; based on reports:

Rickie Fowler, Matthew Wolff, Pat Perez, Jason Kokrak

https://progolfweekly.com/rickie-fowler-matthew-wolff-among-latest-names-to-join-liv-golf/

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Just now, Hacker1 said:

Great thing about LIV is you will likely be able to binge watch it on free streaming, like TV now a days who watches live TV when you can stream it at your convenience.

Bases on the above I guess LIV will grow the game because if you like LIV golf you will golf more on weekends etc. instead of staying at home and watching the PGA on TV.

Again no comment or opinion on why it started and the reason for its existence and if it should exist or why it exists (excessive greed on all parties) because per the thread and moderators that topic is off limits.

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4 hours ago, TR1PTIK said:

Watched James Wiltshire's latest video from LIV and a few things stuck out to me:

#1 There's a lot of interest in seeing these guys play regardless of the funding.

#2 The potential for viewership and reach far exceeds that of the PGA Tour due to the welcoming of personalities such as James posting content to their own channels. Obviously, if you follow James at all you know he was invited and granted special access by LIV, but allowing him to create his own content rather than having him as a "guest" on their programming is different and something I quite enjoy.

#3 This course does not look easy. I don't actually know anything about it, but based on what I've seen from the LIV feed and JW's channel there are some remarkably tough tee shots with trouble on both sides, native grass areas that IMO are much more penal than the even cut rough at the RBC and the wind has been blowing quite a bit from my understanding. I think I am more surprised by Schwartzel playing at -9 than I am by the number of players who are over par.

#4 (Watching the LIV feed) We get to see a LOT of golf from golfers I've never heard of, can't pronounce half their names, and that's kinda cool. I'd hate to watch featured group type coverage of a bunch of golfers I don't know, but getting to see snippets of them is great IMO.

#5 (Related to #4) I like the updated scoring on the left of the screen, but I find it difficult to understand who's who sometimes based on how they shortened the names. I'd love to seem them play around with this a bit more.

I'm not saying I am pro-LIV, but I'm certainly not against some of the things they are trying. Would love to see some of these attempted on the PGA Tour.

 

I like this concept because it's so different, tbh I'm really pissxx at what is the current PGA setup video with the comment by the same guys. I've just watched Mrshortgame Inside the ropes which was good and a different view.

 

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10 hours ago, LICC said:

It’s all new and something like this hasn’t happened in golf before. By the fourth or fifth event let’s see how much coverage and discussion LIV gets. Unless it gets more top players I’m guessing the interest, coverage, and discussions will subside. 

I agree with you there--- Right now it is THE hot button topic----- 

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

Here's the next wave of players; based on reports:

Rickie Fowler, Matthew Wolff, Pat Perez, Jason Kokrak

https://progolfweekly.com/rickie-fowler-matthew-wolff-among-latest-names-to-join-liv-golf/

Let’s be real, no one’s going to miss them from the PGA Tour since they haven’t been seen on a Sunday in ages. 
 

For all this talk about money and how amazing the tour is they’re still not getting any names aside from DJ. 

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52 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

Let’s be real, no one’s going to miss them from the PGA Tour since they haven’t been seen on a Sunday in ages. 
 

For all this talk about money and how amazing the tour is they’re still not getting any names aside from DJ. 

Bryson and Reed aren’t just nobodies. They may not be liked by a segment of the population but Bryson did bring attention to the single length irons and from what I’ve read helped cobra in iron sales that were already mediocre at best. For Reed those who hate him changed that mindset even if for a little bit during the Ryder Cup.

DJ, Bryson and Reed jumping ship will have an impact on others joining. If they get Rickie it’s another name. Yes he’s struggling but you take away the stress of trying to make a cut, less holes to play and less tournaments he can easily sneak up on the leaderboard and win some events, but he will bring more eyes. He is carrying Puma golf and his approach to the game and how he acts created a big Rickie fan base.

 

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39 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Bryson and Reed aren’t just nobodies. They may not be liked by a segment of the population but Bryson did bring attention to the single length irons and from what I’ve read helped cobra in iron sales that were already mediocre at best. For Reed those who hate him changed that mindset even if for a little bit during the Ryder Cup.

DJ, Bryson and Reed jumping ship will have an impact on others joining. If they get Rickie it’s another name. Yes he’s struggling but you take away the stress of trying to make a cut, less holes to play and less tournaments he can easily sneak up on the leaderboard and win some events, but he will bring more eyes. He is carrying Puma golf and his approach to the game and how he acts created a big Rickie fan base.

 

Never said they were nobodies - but they are second tier at best when compared to the PGA field. So again - if this league is so great we’ll see when the names that are real draws jump over. If that even happens. Until then it’s all B listers in the grand scheme of things. 

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Next years PGA Tour is going to look much much different… I bet a record number of KFT players earn their “card”… kind of scary to think about.  If I were the PGA Tour, I would have a team working on how to make it better… and fast.  Real fast.

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6 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Next years PGA Tour is going to look much much different… I bet a record number of KFT players earn their “card”… kind of scary to think about.  If I were the PGA Tour, I would have a team working on how to make it better… and fast.  Real fast.

My thought is that after year 1 this is who LIV goes after.   Start trying to get some of the bigger names and them take the up and comers and dry up the talent feed to the PGA tour.  

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

My thought is that after year 1 this is who LIV goes after.   Start trying to get some of the bigger names and them take the up and comers and dry up the talent feed to the PGA tour.  

I'm betting Liv already have plans for a second level tournament play, they must realize if Liv is to be successful they will have too many players and or expand the field size. The one thing I love about the Liv setup is paying the caddies, I've not seen any numbers just seen comment on this. Can't wait to what the future holds and not paying skysport lol, priceless...

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Only about halfway through James Wiltshire's latest, but I'm loving his inside-the-ropes perspective. Of particular note, seeing Phil and DJ from this angle really highlights how good the pros putt. Seems like most angles on PGA Tour feeds wash out all the slopes and it just doesn't translate quite as well. We all know they're good, but some of these putts just look next-level.

 

EDIT: He also has a brief exchange with Mr. Short Game which is pretty cool.

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13 hours ago, Bang60 said:

I like this concept because it's so different, tbh I'm really pissxx at what is the current PGA setup video with the comment by the same guys. I've just watched Mrshortgame Inside the ropes which was good and a different view.

Just watched this and one thing he said early on that really struck a chord is when he talked about never having done a pro-am before despite being invited or having pitched ideas to "the other tour" because they always denied him the ability to film his own content. He said, "I have tried to do this kind of stuff on the other places before. The sad thing is it's just all be denied, but here everything's been yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I haven't had one no yet! It may come, but it just hasn't happened."

 

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