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44 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

The DP World Tour, formally The European Tour, which had entered into a partnership with the PGA Tour has been quiet on any of this.  No sanctions... yet.  Are they going to follow the PGA Tour lead or will they stay neutral?  Quite a few of the steadfast Euro players made the jump and more could follow, which could devastate their Tour.

Any thoughts from our European spys??

That was just pointed out by Hymie Diaz on the GC that the Saudi thing may really hurt the DP World Tour in the future

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Other note from watching it. Having the shotgun start, was really nice from the viewing standpoint. If I was a spectator going to the event, 5 hours onsite to watch the whole event is a lot better then 9+ hours if you want to watch at a normal pga event. I did like that.

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Would it be safe to assume that every card carrying member of the PGA and DP World Tours (among other professional tours) received a monetary offer to play in the LIV Tour events? 

So as I watch the RBC Canadian Open and the DP World events today... These are the professionals that turned down the (undisclosed amount of) LIV Golf money to support their membership in their respective tours, correct?

 

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15 minutes ago, Thin2win said:

There is always the concern with NHL when it comes time for the Olympics and risk of injury. Also, WNBA players often go play in Turkey/Russia during the off season.

The NHL for a while didn’t send players to the Olympics and the IIHF World Cup is pretty much run by the NHL and if they didn’t do as much as they do they wouldn’t get many players.

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21 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said:

Would it be safe to assume that every card carrying member of the PGA and DP World Tours (among other professional tours) received a monetary offer to play in the LIV Tour events? 

So as I watch the RBC Canadian Open and the DP World events today... These are the professionals that turned down the (undisclosed amount of) LIV Golf money to support their membership in their respective tours, correct?

 

Possibly - I've heard that the players who aren't "drafted" get sent to do Asian tour events and possibly no guarantee of playing. It will be interesting to see what players like Andy O will do in the future.

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On 6/7/2022 at 10:27 AM, 550025KV said:

So the alternative LIV Golf is ready to launch its first event. Are you watching? My understanding is it's only going to air on a streaming service YouTube or the LIV golf website.  
Thoughts?  

I happened to be home today after a work trip, so I put it on the big TV through YouTube.  I thought the presentation was good, if not quite the polished product we've become accustomed to seeing.  The course and the weather were keeping scores bunched up.  I think the individual / team idea is interesting, and the golf was golf.  I'll probably have it on the TV tomorrow morning as well.

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On 6/7/2022 at 11:28 AM, GolfSpy_APH said:

So for those who formally resign their membership, what is the process they would have to do in order to reapply to get back on tour if they chose to?

There is a process, and it depends on the status the player had when they resigned, i.e. having to back to Q-School, KF Tour, etc.  I don't remember all the details.

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On 6/8/2022 at 9:55 AM, TBS said:

I agree BUT... I have to think that LIV is going to make the LPGA product and coverage even worse. 

All LIV would need to do to dismantle LPGA is offer Lexi, Nelly, Lydia, and Minjee a similar outrageous contract. Pull them out of the LPGA to do co-ed team competitions. The Saudi "grow the game" idea fits right in with doing that next year. Also the partnership with Asian tour, pull in more young lady Korean players will hurt LPGA as well.

Pull those players out and LPGA will get ZERO coverage (strength of field clauses in TV coverage). Then all we have left is NCAA coverage... OH WAIT - LIV can start pulling those players for 500k to $1 mil for a 2-3 year contract or an NIL deal then they are gone. 

That money is already there.  I heard discussion of NIL money for some of the amateurs playing this week in London.  Also, did anyone else notice how many UK and European female golfers in the US Open had "Golf Saudi" or "ARAMCO" (Arabian American Oil Company) logos on their shirts last week?  This idea of pulling top female players is something I hadn't thought of, but I bet someone else already has that thought on the table. 

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1 hour ago, MGoBlue100 said:

That money is already there.  I heard discussion of NIL money for some of the amateurs playing this week in London.  Also, did anyone else notice how many UK and European female golfers in the US Open had "Golf Saudi" or "ARAMCO" (Arabian American Oil Company) logos on their shirts last week?  This idea of pulling top female players is something I hadn't thought of, but I bet someone else already has that thought on the table. 

The idea of coed tournaments would be cool to see though. 

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This whole situation honestly reminds me of something which happened recently in another sport I watch, actually watch it more than I watch golf. Professional paintball, yes it’s a thing and yes it’s a small niche. There was a new team which purchased a spot of an existing team over the off season and started to pay players big money, for paintball that’s 100grand(most make way less than that). The team made it through a single tournament placed high because they bought good talent then the team ownership folded. Guys thought the big money was good to go and not going anywhere because his money is from oil, but his financial backing cut things off after dishing out a ton of money for one tournament. I could see something similar to this happening 

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Day1 highlights- 

Looked like golf to me.

 

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I'm watching a replay that goes 9ish hours on utube, love Livgolf coverage because it's miles better than what skysport dish up here in New Zealand. Commercials are the order of the day for skysport, infact more commercials than Golf so I'm sure you know how I feel about the POOR product skysport show. Just rubbish....

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6 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Goes to show what I have always said Norman is an idiot

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14 hours ago, Kenny B said:

The DP World Tour, formally The European Tour, which had entered into a partnership with the PGA Tour has been quiet on any of this.  No sanctions... yet.  Are they going to follow the PGA Tour lead or will they stay neutral?  Quite a few of the steadfast Euro players made the jump and more could follow, which could devastate their Tour.

Any thoughts from our European spys??

Lol I don't even watch DP Tour... I only follow PGA.
But I can tell you that Martin Kaymer was butchered on social media yesterday when he announced he was jumping over.

His statement "doing this to take care of myself and the game" didn't help at all... I think his fans would have been more forgiving if he just said he is doing it for the money... but the lame excuse "to grow the game" didn't sit well...

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The course looks nice... my membership includes 5 green fees/year for Centurion and I've never used it lol

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27 minutes ago, LICC said:

Norman just seems like a bad guy. Very disliked by many even before all this. 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-reality-show-pga-tour

People that are very successful in any field are not friends with the rest of the World, their driven single minded arrogance and don't have friends like us. They don't function in our world that's why they live in exclusive expensive communities, as a result of that we think their idiots dicks etc but their extremely rich and don't care what we think...

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11 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Shipnuck has to be a idiot thinking he'd be welcome at a Livgolf event, But as he's a bottom feeder just looking for free publicity that's why he was there. Lucky he didn't get slapped around lol...

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