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Currently I have a Bag Boy Nitron. It was a fine cart before i got a cart bag, C130S. Its still ok, but I feel like it takes more effort to push than what is ideal. So im looking for possibly getting a different one that rolls better with a heavier bag. It got me to wondering if I need to go to 4 wheels instead of 3 and sacrifice a little maneuverability.  Any recommendations or input?

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I've got a 4 wheel and wish I had a 3 wheel because of maneuverability and bag set-up. My buddy has a 3 wheel and the bottom of his bag sits higher than my 4 wheel. Net result; the bottom of my bag gets muddier/dirtier than his. I really don't see an advantage for 4 wheel - note I have a Sun Mountain Cart bag.   

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A 4 wheel is going to be a bit heavier than a 3 wheel, unless you change your bag again. I run a 3 wheel because I prefer the maneuverability over stability or anything else.

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11 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

I've got a 4 wheel and wish I had a 3 wheel because of maneuverability and bag set-up. My buddy has a 3 wheel and the bottom of his bag sits higher than my 4 wheel. Net result; the bottom of my bag gets muddier/dirtier than his. I really don't see an advantage for 4 wheel - note I have a Sun Mountain Cart bag.   

How do you feel it pushes? Im looking for something that “glides” well. The Sun Mountains dont fold down well from what ive seen which is why ive been hesitant to purchase.

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I went from a four wheel to a three wheel and definitely prefer the three. My three, I also use the Nitron, is quite a bit lighter than the four wheel that it replaced and more maneuverable as well. I don’t feel like either of them pushes easier than the other in terms of effort. Before settling on the Nitron, I had also considered the Bag Boy Quad XL but at the time was unable to find one to look at. 

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While a 3 wheel is more maneuverable, your topography might factor in? My regular course has a lot of up, down and side slopes - so a 4 wheel is way more stable. I have a 4 wheel electric walking cart now, but I had a BagBoy TriSwivel II push cart for years before it. FWIW.

And BTW, if you go with a 3 wheel, I'd seriously consider a swiveling front wheel - a worthwhile feature IME.

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4 hours ago, Tyler86 said:

Currently I have a Bag Boy Nitron. It was a fine cart before i got a cart bag, C130S. Its still ok, but I feel like it takes more effort to push than what is ideal. So im looking for possibly getting a different one that rolls better with a heavier bag. It got me to wondering if I need to go to 4 wheels instead of 3 and sacrifice a little maneuverability.  Any recommendations or input?

Really like my 3 wheel caddytek. I’ve noticed with the 4 wheel models some of the front wheels don’t swivel which is a huge pain to pick up and reposition. I personally like the 3 wheel and would find it really cumbersome and monotonous to pick my cart up and maneuver it that frequently throughout the round. If looking to a lighter cart, clicgear is one to look at, possibly even electronic if you want to lighten the whole load while continuing to walk

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How do you feel it pushes? Im looking for something that “glides” well. The Sun Mountains dont fold down well from what ive seen which is why ive been hesitant to purchase.

Don't have a comparison since I haven't used the 3 wheel. Also we have a somewhat hilly course so not sure how I could rate 'gliding' 

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I have a four wheel variety and I'm pretty happy with it.   I suppose it does provide a little bit more stability.  I used 3 wheels previously.   I didn't notice issues to maneuverability, but I think I push down on the handle and lift the front wheels a bit to turn.  (I had to think about it, but i think that's what I do).  It comes naturally w/o thinking.

I like to let go of the cart on a hill and let it speed down the hill on its own.   Four wheels are definitely more stable for that.   Only issue when I let go on a hill is that the cart slices quite a bit not unlike my long irons.

 

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1 hour ago, pakman92 said:

I have a four wheel variety and I'm pretty happy with it.   I suppose it does provide a little bit more stability.  I used 3 wheels previously.   I didn't notice issues to maneuverability, but I think I push down on the handle and lift the front wheels a bit to turn.  (I had to think about it, but i think that's what I do).  It comes naturally w/o thinking.

I like to let go of the cart on a hill and let it speed down the hill on its own.   Four wheels are definitely more stable for that.   Only issue when I let go on a hill is that the cart slices quite a bit not unlike my long irons.

 

Hills… what are those? Im in Minnesota! 🤣

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On 4/3/2022 at 7:06 AM, Tyler86 said:

Currently I have a Bag Boy Nitron. It was a fine cart before i got a cart bag, C130S. Its still ok, but I feel like it takes more effort to push than what is ideal. So im looking for possibly getting a different one that rolls better with a heavier bag. It got me to wondering if I need to go to 4 wheels instead of 3 and sacrifice a little maneuverability.  Any recommendations or input?

 have both a 3 wheel and a 4 wheel cart and I do NOT see any difference in how much effort it takes to roll it around the course. I'm 75 next week and it's NOT an issue so unless you are a good bit older than my 75 or have a health issue, I see no good reason to get a new caart, it will just be a waste of time and money.

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I have a four wheel push cart, that I only use when my course has path only days.  I have only had this cart, so I cannot speak to others  I will say that when I use it, I have no complaints. 

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I have a Sun Mountain 4 wheel cart.  Got it originally because I needed it to fold small to fit in the trunk of my MGB.  That was quite a while ago so I would bet other carts would fold small now also.  4 wheels are definitely more stable but I don't think that is a huge deal.  I also let my cart go down hills frequently.  The tracking is actually adjustable with a small allen wrench on the front axel so Pakman92 should be able to fix his slice (in his cart anyway).  I don't think the glide is really much of a 3 v 4 function but more about the size of the wheels - bigger wheels easier glide - so you might want to check into that.   I don't find it hard to maneuver the 4 wheel cart at all.  A slight push on the handle unweights the front wheels and turning is easy.  You do it without thinking.

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I don't think 3 or 4 wheels will make a difference in how easily it rolls.

 If you look at baby strollers, almost all the jogging ones have larger bike like wheels.

The Walker Trolley 'Cape' Model 1.5 is the only push carts I see with those type of wheels.

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personally i like the 4 wheel, as they track straighter, and straight is 90% of what i do (straight into the woods often 😀).  turning is such a small part of push cart usage, and is generally accomplished by lifting the front wheels and pivoting anyway.  that said, be very careful with cart bags on a push carts.  i have a C130, and the bottom of the 2 large side pockets rub on the top of the front wheels of my cart.  i had to add a 3/4 inch spacer where the bottom of the bag rested on the cart to lift it up to clear the wheels.  this is why bags in 3 wheelers sit so much higher, as the bottom of the bag has to be above the single front wheel, as with 4 wheelers, they try to get the bag between the front wheels.

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Last year I purchased CaddyTek 3 Wheel swivel.  Maneuverability is great.  Just need to be careful if your in the trees and above ground roots.  Stay in the fairway and you are great!  😎. Good luck!

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Thanks for the insight guys. Please include brand and models of what you guys are using. And FTR its not about not being able too push it. I pushed it for 72 holes this weekend, just fine and was gonna play again today, but it snowed. It was more that i noticed how much of a difference it made with a heavier bag on it. Which got me to thinking that there may be something better out there, that requires less effort, leaving more in the tank for the important stuff. Its no more a “waste of money” than upgrading to a slightly newer driver with head cover and wrench. 

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3 hours ago, Tyler86 said:

Hills… what are those? Im in Minnesota! 🤣

Same! Snowed this morning! 
 

I have bag boy nitro and it’s better than the 4 wheeler I used to have. Would adjusting the height of the handle help with maneuverability?

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8 minutes ago, Mbeckman03 said:

Same! Snowed this morning! 
 

I have bag boy nitro and it’s better than the 4 wheeler I used to have. Would adjusting the height of the handle help with maneuverability?

Its not the maneuverability thats the issue. Its how well it rolls that id like to improve. Less friction would be ideal, wether it be bigger wheels or better bearings. The carts great otherwise. 

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I have a 4 wheeler - Sun Mountain Pathfinder 4.  I find it lighter and easier to push than my old Clicgear.  Maneuverability not an issue, and I also let it roll (straight) down hills.

The front axle / wheels on the Pathfinder can be adjusted to be wider to avoid bag rubbing./  But I also find that non-Sun Mountain bags sit too low and top straps hit the putter well.   I secure mine 2-3" off the bottom bracket, which also helps with keeping a wide bag from rubbing against the wheels - but less than optimal.  I've had Ping Pioneer and Callaway Org 14 bags - neither fit great.   Point being - check how the bag fits on 4-wheeler before buying.

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