PXG Fitting Experience: 0211 Irons, Driver, and Hybrid

[bri256]

I want to share my experience being fit for, and ultimately ordering, some 0211 clubs from PXG. But first, I want to set the stage for you to give you a sense of how much of an amateur and budget-minded golfer I am.

Preseason
I started playing about 10 years ago in my mid 30s. To reduce start-up costs, I picked up a used Top Flite XL+ package set from 2nd Swing for less than $200 shipped. This was a compromise for sure — at 5’6”, I’m a little short for standard length clubs — but it was fine for getting started. Since then, I’ve replaced the putter with a Ping Cadence TR Anser 2 and added the Kirkland wedge set… and lost my 6 and 8 irons and gotten 10 years older. On top of that, I’ve gone from being indifferent about the irons to actively disliking them. In short, it was time for an upgrade.

Over the years, I’ve spent a lot of time reading articles, watching videos, and listening to podcasts. I’ve only had a few lessons, so improvement has been slow. I’ve learned a lot about the golf swing and impact physics (I like to understand how things work). Over the winter, I practiced staying more stable in my backswing and keeping some shaft lean at impact, and I saw improvement during my first range session of the season.

Warmup at the Practice Range
One piece of advice I’ve heard repeatedly is the importance of being properly fit for clubs. A few worries have kept me from doing this:

• Will I be able to hit enough good shots during the fitting?
• Is my swing stable enough that the clubs will truly be appropriate for me?
• How much will I end up having to spend on the clubs I get fit into?
• In the end, will it have actually been worth the cost?

I was nervous and a little skeptical of the big stores, and a little too uncomfortable in some of the smaller shops. I decided to try a store somewhere in-between where I know they offer fittings and also invite people to use their hitting bays on their own. I walked in with the intention of gathering information and maybe trying a couple of irons. It was a little busy that morning, but I was able to chat with a fitter and get some recommendations of iron sets — some more affordable than others — that they had in stock:

• Callaway Maverick (leftover stock)
• Callaway Apex DCB
• TaylorMade M4

After hitting the 7 iron of each for a bit, I found I really liked the M4s, especially considering the $599 price tag. Compared to my old clubs, I saw the possibility of a whole different game. However, I was getting some pretty pushy sales tactics. I nearly went ahead and bought the M4s, but I decided to back away from the pressure and leave with the information I had walked in to gather.

Pre-Round Nerves
I dove into intense research about the M4s; it seems TaylorMade made some minor changes to the original 2016 version, such as removing the face slots, and kept them in their lineup as a lower-cost alternative to the more recent releases. As such, they don’t offer custom builds… only simple things that your local shop can do such as cutting the shafts down 1/2” and maybe bending them 1° flat. Would that be enough customization to make the investment worth it?

I explored many other options, from used Cobra or Ping irons to direct-to-consumer brands such as Sub 70 and PXG.

That’s when I came across the PXG 0211 DC irons.

Released in 2021, and iterating on the initial release a few years prior, they’re a surprisingly affordable alternative to the top-of-the-line 0311 GEN4 irons. At the current sale price of $79/club, a 5-GW set comes to $553 which is about the same as the M4s I was on the verge of buying. But how would they compare in performance?

All the research I did gave me hope, but I couldn’t quite bring myself to pull the trigger. I needed some additional insight.

The First Tee
PXG’s website says that they offer over-the-phone fittings and other help with choosing and customizing clubs. It was time to give them a call. I spent some time writing down answers to questions I thought they might ask. Then, after drinking half a beer to feel a little more relaxed, I got on the line with a fitter named Corey. We had a great conversation and he was very helpful. 

In addition to talking about the 0211s and making some general fitting decisions, we configured an 0211 driver — another insanely affordable club given the praise it was getting. Corey put together a mock order for me so I could think it over. We continued the conversation over email and he answered all of the questions that I had.

Still, while I’d had a chance to try the M4s, I hadn’t even seen the 0211s in person. I was so tempted to just pull the trigger, but I dreaded the regret if it didn’t work out. I looked to Corey for some assurance and, to his credit, he encouraged me to find a way to try the irons first instead of pressuring me to place the order. From our conversation, he understood the importance of the investment to me and wanted to help me make the right decision.

The Front Nine
PXG offers fittings at lots of locations including their own stores, independent fitting studios, and virtual golf centers. I chose Bear’s Virtual Golf in Danielson, CT. It may not have been the closest location to me, but of the  places I tried to contact, Jerre at Bear’s felt most receptive to me. Their website mentioned PXG fittings every Friday through April and, since I had a Friday off coming up, I scheduled a 2pm fitting.

We (I had brought my Dad along for moral support) were greeted by Jerre who I had emailed with to set up the fitting appointment. After a quick chat, he had be grab my current driver and 7 iron and handed me off to the PXG fitter, Brendan Dugan. I explained to him that I was looking at the 0211 irons and driver and he had be take a few swings with my 7 iron.

I had not warmed up, and I had just driven about an hour to get there. It’s also early in the season, so I had done very little since last fall. After 5-6 shots, I finally had on that was okay, but a little shorter than I was used to.

Brendan explained that he wanted to first find the right shaft for my swing and asked if I had consider graphite. I hadn’t for two reasons: 1. ego, 2. cost. I said I was willing to set aside ego, and Brendan said that they had a few no-upcharge graphite shafts! This surprised me because I didn’t see any no-upcharge graphite options when configuring online. He had me try those as well as their steel shaft options. He would occasionally ask me if I noticed any differences and, to be honest, I mostly just noticed that I could swing the graphites 8-9 mph faster than the steels. We eventually settled on Mitsubishi MMT 70g as a good compromise for being lighter while still feeling familiar and not “mushy”.

As we were testing different shafts, I mentioned that I was aware of my heel strike bias. Brendan had previously noted that my swing path was pretty strongly in-to-out (I think around 4-6°) which, combined with not fulling squaring the club face, led to no other possible contact but a heel strike. I adjusted my swing with a little bit of “fade” in my mind and was able to neutralize path. My good shots were starting to show the same kind of results I had been seeing with the M4s with ball speed and distance increases over my current clubs.

However, I still had the face angle to contend with. Brendan and I worked together on that.

For my part, I first tried to “rev” the grip at the top of the backswing, but I couldn’t do both that and effectively keep the “fade” thought. I always hear that more than one swing thought is really tough to manage. Instead, I strengthened my grip a little for the time being which worked like a charm.

On Brendan’s end, he offered a couple of variations of head weight. Again, I was surprised. I thought that sort of customization was the reason for upgrading to the 0311 line, but apparently they do offer some options in the 0211s. Again, this isn’t available when configuring online. First, we tried something that would feel lighter and not provide as much resistance to squaring at impact. I could kinda work it, but I didn’t love it; there wasn’t any feel. He then had me try something else, for which he had to sub in a 0311 to simulate what it would be like. He didn’t tell me what the change was, but I assumed he was going to go to the other extreme to make me want to go back to the lighter feel. He did go to the opposite extreme as I had guessed, and I anticipated having to put in a little extra effort to square the face. As it turns out, I loved the feedback I got from that feel and Brendan didn’t seem at all surprised.

Side note: At this point, the fitting was turning out to be just as much of a lesson. I was definitely coming in with some of my own knowledge (thanks to the online presence of people like Adam Young, Jon Sherman, and Shauheen Nakhjavani), but I wouldn’t have known what needed changing without Brendan telling me what he saw. This alone made the fitting worth while. 

Back to the fitting… Just to be sure about where we landed, I asked to try a couple of the other options we had worked through now that I was warmed up. I even hit my current 7 iron again, better than I had at first. In the end, I was satisfied that Brendan had fit me into clubs that would take my game to the next level.

The whole time, Brendan was also busy evaluating lie. Based on my height and the phone fitting with Corey, I expected to end up 1° flat. He started me at 2° upright just to check and, while I was skeptical at first, I quickly put this out of my mind. By the time we were done, he had me at 1° flat without another word needing to be said.

In terms of set composition, I was hoping to try the 5 iron to see if I could hit that or if I needed a hybrid instead. They only have the 7 iron for fitting, but he had his set and let me try his 5 iron. I don’t remember if it was 0211 or 0311, and the shafts were a different model of graphite, but I was able to get enough of an idea to know that a 5 iron was the longest iron I would feel comfortable having in my bag.  We locked in the 0211s from 5-GW.

The Back Nine
We then moved on to the driver. Same basic process of starting with my current 10.5° driver, followed by finding the right shaft. We’d learned a lot about my swing during the iron fitting and he quickly dialed in a 9° set to “BIG +” (+1.5° loft, -1.5° lie, slightly closed face) and a shorter shaft to account for my height and help me hit the sweet spot more reliably.

I had planned to stop there. I knew I wanted irons and a driver, but I didn’t know what would best fill the gap for me. I’ve never had much success with my current fairway woods, and I didn’t know what kinds of distance I might want to get out of a hybrid. Still, Brendan had be try the 0211 fairway and hybrid. He again coached me on my fairway wood swing by suggesting a more forward ball position that was counter-intuitive to me given how I was swinging. It worked okay, but it was a little too novel for me to be sure I wanted a new fairway wood right now. The 19° hybrid was another story. That one felt great and was an easy decision to add on to the order.

Back in the Clubhouse
So there you have it. A custom 0211 driver, 19° hybrid, and 5-GW irons with more customization than I could have gotten outside of an in-person fitting. The total was around $950 plus tax and shipping. I could have spent just as much on the M4s plus a decent second-hand driver and hybrid, but I would have had no where near the confidence that I would be happy with my investment.

In short, my fitting experience was excellent and much less scary than I feared. Brendan was great and I highly recommend getting in touch with him ([email protected]) or Bear’s Virtual Golf (https://www.bearsvirtualgolf.com/) if you’re in the area and want a PXG fitting. If you’re near Chicago, I hear the guys at Sub 70 in Sycamore are great as well (they also have some fitting cart locations listed on their website, but nothing near me). No matter how you do it, I urge anyone wanting to improve their game to find some place where they are comfortable getting a quality club fitting.

My fitting was last Friday, 4/1. Brendan said that I should have the clubs in 2-3 weeks, shipping from Arizona. They were assembled on Monday, shipped on Tuesday, and are currently expected to arrive tomorrow! I’m looking forward to putting them in the bag and will follow up with my impressions with the actual clubs.

[nupezb]

On 4/8/2022 at 8:27 PM, bri256 said:

I want to share my experience being fit for, and ultimately ordering, some 0211 clubs from PXG. But first, I want to set the stage for you to give you a sense of how much of an amateur and budget-minded golfer I am.

Preseason
I started playing about 10 years ago in my mid 30s. To reduce start-up costs, I picked up a used Top Flite XL+ package set from 2nd Swing for less than $200 shipped. This was a compromise for sure — at 5’6”, I’m a little short for standard length clubs — but it was fine for getting started. Since then, I’ve replaced the putter with a Ping Cadence TR Anser 2 and added the Kirkland wedge set… and lost my 6 and 8 irons and gotten 10 years older. On top of that, I’ve gone from being indifferent about the irons to actively disliking them. In short, it was time for an upgrade.

Over the years, I’ve spent a lot of time reading articles, watching videos, and listening to podcasts. I’ve only had a few lessons, so improvement has been slow. I’ve learned a lot about the golf swing and impact physics (I like to understand how things work). Over the winter, I practiced staying more stable in my backswing and keeping some shaft lean at impact, and I saw improvement during my first range session of the season.

Warmup at the Practice Range
One piece of advice I’ve heard repeatedly is the importance of being properly fit for clubs. A few worries have kept me from doing this:

• Will I be able to hit enough good shots during the fitting?
• Is my swing stable enough that the clubs will truly be appropriate for me?
• How much will I end up having to spend on the clubs I get fit into?
• In the end, will it have actually been worth the cost?

I was nervous and a little skeptical of the big stores, and a little too uncomfortable in some of the smaller shops. I decided to try a store somewhere in-between where I know they offer fittings and also invite people to use their hitting bays on their own. I walked in with the intention of gathering information and maybe trying a couple of irons. It was a little busy that morning, but I was able to chat with a fitter and get some recommendations of iron sets — some more affordable than others — that they had in stock:

• Callaway Maverick (leftover stock)
• Callaway Apex DCB
• TaylorMade M4

After hitting the 7 iron of each for a bit, I found I really liked the M4s, especially considering the $599 price tag. Compared to my old clubs, I saw the possibility of a whole different game. However, I was getting some pretty pushy sales tactics. I nearly went ahead and bought the M4s, but I decided to back away from the pressure and leave with the information I had walked in to gather.

Pre-Round Nerves
I dove into intense research about the M4s; it seems TaylorMade made some minor changes to the original 2016 version, such as removing the face slots, and kept them in their lineup as a lower-cost alternative to the more recent releases. As such, they don’t offer custom builds… only simple things that your local shop can do such as cutting the shafts down 1/2” and maybe bending them 1° flat. Would that be enough customization to make the investment worth it?

I explored many other options, from used Cobra or Ping irons to direct-to-consumer brands such as Sub 70 and PXG.

That’s when I came across the PXG 0211 DC irons.

Released in 2021, and iterating on the initial release a few years prior, they’re a surprisingly affordable alternative to the top-of-the-line 0311 GEN4 irons. At the current sale price of $79/club, a 5-GW set comes to $553 which is about the same as the M4s I was on the verge of buying. But how would they compare in performance?

All the research I did gave me hope, but I couldn’t quite bring myself to pull the trigger. I needed some additional insight.

The First Tee
PXG’s website says that they offer over-the-phone fittings and other help with choosing and customizing clubs. It was time to give them a call. I spent some time writing down answers to questions I thought they might ask. Then, after drinking half a beer to feel a little more relaxed, I got on the line with a fitter named Corey. We had a great conversation and he was very helpful. 

In addition to talking about the 0211s and making some general fitting decisions, we configured an 0211 driver — another insanely affordable club given the praise it was getting. Corey put together a mock order for me so I could think it over. We continued the conversation over email and he answered all of the questions that I had.

Still, while I’d had a chance to try the M4s, I hadn’t even seen the 0211s in person. I was so tempted to just pull the trigger, but I dreaded the regret if it didn’t work out. I looked to Corey for some assurance and, to his credit, he encouraged me to find a way to try the irons first instead of pressuring me to place the order. From our conversation, he understood the importance of the investment to me and wanted to help me make the right decision.

The Front Nine
PXG offers fittings at lots of locations including their own stores, independent fitting studios, and virtual golf centers. I chose Bear’s Virtual Golf in Danielson, CT. It may not have been the closest location to me, but of the  places I tried to contact, Jerre at Bear’s felt most receptive to me. Their website mentioned PXG fittings every Friday through April and, since I had a Friday off coming up, I scheduled a 2pm fitting.

We (I had brought my Dad along for moral support) were greeted by Jerre who I had emailed with to set up the fitting appointment. After a quick chat, he had be grab my current driver and 7 iron and handed me off to the PXG fitter, Brendan Dugan. I explained to him that I was looking at the 0211 irons and driver and he had be take a few swings with my 7 iron.

I had not warmed up, and I had just driven about an hour to get there. It’s also early in the season, so I had done very little since last fall. After 5-6 shots, I finally had on that was okay, but a little shorter than I was used to.

Brendan explained that he wanted to first find the right shaft for my swing and asked if I had consider graphite. I hadn’t for two reasons: 1. ego, 2. cost. I said I was willing to set aside ego, and Brendan said that they had a few no-upcharge graphite shafts! This surprised me because I didn’t see any no-upcharge graphite options when configuring online. He had me try those as well as their steel shaft options. He would occasionally ask me if I noticed any differences and, to be honest, I mostly just noticed that I could swing the graphites 8-9 mph faster than the steels. We eventually settled on Mitsubishi MMT 70g as a good compromise for being lighter while still feeling familiar and not “mushy”.

As we were testing different shafts, I mentioned that I was aware of my heel strike bias. Brendan had previously noted that my swing path was pretty strongly in-to-out (I think around 4-6°) which, combined with not fulling squaring the club face, led to no other possible contact but a heel strike. I adjusted my swing with a little bit of “fade” in my mind and was able to neutralize path. My good shots were starting to show the same kind of results I had been seeing with the M4s with ball speed and distance increases over my current clubs.

However, I still had the face angle to contend with. Brendan and I worked together on that.

For my part, I first tried to “rev” the grip at the top of the backswing, but I couldn’t do both that and effectively keep the “fade” thought. I always hear that more than one swing thought is really tough to manage. Instead, I strengthened my grip a little for the time being which worked like a charm.

On Brendan’s end, he offered a couple of variations of head weight. Again, I was surprised. I thought that sort of customization was the reason for upgrading to the 0311 line, but apparently they do offer some options in the 0211s. Again, this isn’t available when configuring online. First, we tried something that would feel lighter and not provide as much resistance to squaring at impact. I could kinda work it, but I didn’t love it; there wasn’t any feel. He then had me try something else, for which he had to sub in a 0311 to simulate what it would be like. He didn’t tell me what the change was, but I assumed he was going to go to the other extreme to make me want to go back to the lighter feel. He did go to the opposite extreme as I had guessed, and I anticipated having to put in a little extra effort to square the face. As it turns out, I loved the feedback I got from that feel and Brendan didn’t seem at all surprised.

Side note: At this point, the fitting was turning out to be just as much of a lesson. I was definitely coming in with some of my own knowledge (thanks to the online presence of people like Adam Young, Jon Sherman, and Shauheen Nakhjavani), but I wouldn’t have known what needed changing without Brendan telling me what he saw. This alone made the fitting worth while. 

Back to the fitting… Just to be sure about where we landed, I asked to try a couple of the other options we had worked through now that I was warmed up. I even hit my current 7 iron again, better than I had at first. In the end, I was satisfied that Brendan had fit me into clubs that would take my game to the next level.

The whole time, Brendan was also busy evaluating lie. Based on my height and the phone fitting with Corey, I expected to end up 1° flat. He started me at 2° upright just to check and, while I was skeptical at first, I quickly put this out of my mind. By the time we were done, he had me at 1° flat without another word needing to be said.

In terms of set composition, I was hoping to try the 5 iron to see if I could hit that or if I needed a hybrid instead. They only have the 7 iron for fitting, but he had his set and let me try his 5 iron. I don’t remember if it was 0211 or 0311, and the shafts were a different model of graphite, but I was able to get enough of an idea to know that a 5 iron was the longest iron I would feel comfortable having in my bag.  We locked in the 0211s from 5-GW.

The Back Nine
We then moved on to the driver. Same basic process of starting with my current 10.5° driver, followed by finding the right shaft. We’d learned a lot about my swing during the iron fitting and he quickly dialed in a 9° set to “BIG +” (+1.5° loft, -1.5° lie, slightly closed face) and a shorter shaft to account for my height and help me hit the sweet spot more reliably.

I had planned to stop there. I knew I wanted irons and a driver, but I didn’t know what would best fill the gap for me. I’ve never had much success with my current fairway woods, and I didn’t know what kinds of distance I might want to get out of a hybrid. Still, Brendan had be try the 0211 fairway and hybrid. He again coached me on my fairway wood swing by suggesting a more forward ball position that was counter-intuitive to me given how I was swinging. It worked okay, but it was a little too novel for me to be sure I wanted a new fairway wood right now. The 19° hybrid was another story. That one felt great and was an easy decision to add on to the order.

Back in the Clubhouse
So there you have it. A custom 0211 driver, 19° hybrid, and 5-GW irons with more customization than I could have gotten outside of an in-person fitting. The total was around $950 plus tax and shipping. I could have spent just as much on the M4s plus a decent second-hand driver and hybrid, but I would have had no where near the confidence that I would be happy with my investment.

In short, my fitting experience was excellent and much less scary than I feared. Brendan was great and I highly recommend getting in touch with him ([email protected]) or Bear’s Virtual Golf (https://www.bearsvirtualgolf.com/) if you’re in the area and want a PXG fitting. If you’re near Chicago, I hear the guys at Sub 70 in Sycamore are great as well (they also have some fitting cart locations listed on their website, but nothing near me). No matter how you do it, I urge anyone wanting to improve their game to find some place where they are comfortable getting a quality club fitting.

My fitting was last Friday, 4/1. Brendan said that I should have the clubs in 2-3 weeks, shipping from Arizona. They were assembled on Monday, shipped on Tuesday, and are currently expected to arrive tomorrow! I’m looking forward to putting them in the bag and will follow up with my impressions with the actual clubs.

Great post.   I'm planning to get my wife driver fitting at the PXG store that opened close to me.  Concur with your overall assessment about getting fitted and felling confidence in your clubs selection.   I hope you enjoy your new purchase. 

[cksurfdude]

Saw this post on another forum; good story, though, and good to hear you're happy with the overall experience. Good luck with the new sticks!

[Golfspy_CG2]

On 4/14/2022 at 8:22 PM, cksurfdude said:

Saw this post on another forum; good story, though, and good to hear you're happy with the overall experience. Good luck with the new sticks!

1st 18 hole round with the 0211 in an official league round today.   For the record, they are the 2022  0211DC  with Nippon 850GH shafts in R 1/4" over and 1 degree upright. 

Today's league round went pretty well.  Played 16.5 really good holes and the 1.5 that didn't had nothing to do with the irons.   It had to do with a misplaced cartpath that I hit square in the middle from 170 yards out and of couse bounced 40 feet forward into the trees leading to a double.  I mean give me a bucket of balls and have me TRY to that and I guarantee I'm lucky to get one to do it again.    Then on a stupid little 290 yard dog leg par 4, I went into some bushes about 1 yard deep, and had just enough of a swing to try and play it.   I hit it....even deeper into the trees.   Of course I had anothe clear line out, so I punched it out but still nto far enough into the fairway to get past the dog leg, and ended up with a quad.  

Anyway to the more positive notes.  I hit the irons very well.  I don't know if I got any more ditance than I do with the T300, but I will say the sound and feel of them is better than the T300.   Was able to get a nice high flight, and put one CTP and would have had a second one, but someone came behind it and missed a HIO by about 8 inches.   

Really nice stopping power on these as well, paired with a ProV1 X of course.   So I continue to beat the drum that mid to high handicappers that dont' have a 90 mph iron swing, definitely still benefit from the ProV.

Based on yesterday's quick round with themwhere I was just trying to see how far I could hit each one vs actually playing shots with them, I didn't take the 5 or 6 out.  But that will have to change.  I hit the 7 very well today, but there were 3 instances where I knew I was out of 7 iron range, but the next club up was 23 degree hybrid, which is honestly 30 to 35 yards longer than my 7, so a big miss there on putting the bag together this morning.   So on those holes I hit 7 and hit it very well, but came up about 20 yards short of where I needed to be.    So I wil definitely put the 6 iron in next round, and possibly the 5 but that remains to be seen.    I had an extr awedge to that I didn't need so that can be taken out if I put both the 5 and 6 in. 

So early thoughts on these are great.   And lookng forward to the next round, but of course as soon as I came in today, I got the shipping notice that the Forged Tec X I ordered back in Feb are due in.   So it should be a good shootout between the  PXG, Forged Tec X and of course the current T300.

I'm in the Spornia XL Net testng, and I just got a MEVO so I plan to use the Net outdoors with real golf balls and the Mevo to get some pretty good numbers from all three sets.

 

[MDGolfHacker]

16 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

1st 18 hole round with the 0211 in an official league round today.   For the record, they are the 2022  0211DC  with Nippon 850GH shafts in R 1/4" over and 1 degree upright. 

Today's league round went pretty well.  Played 16.5 really good holes and the 1.5 that didn't had nothing to do with the irons.   It had to do with a misplaced cartpath that I hit square in the middle from 170 yards out and of couse bounced 40 feet forward into the trees leading to a double.  I mean give me a bucket of balls and have me TRY to that and I guarantee I'm lucky to get one to do it again.    Then on a stupid little 290 yard dog leg par 4, I went into some bushes about 1 yard deep, and had just enough of a swing to try and play it.   I hit it....even deeper into the trees.   Of course I had anothe clear line out, so I punched it out but still nto far enough into the fairway to get past the dog leg, and ended up with a quad.  

Anyway to the more positive notes.  I hit the irons very well.  I don't know if I got any more ditance than I do with the T300, but I will say the sound and feel of them is better than the T300.   Was able to get a nice high flight, and put one CTP and would have had a second one, but someone came behind it and missed a HIO by about 8 inches.   

Really nice stopping power on these as well, paired with a ProV1 X of course.   So I continue to beat the drum that mid to high handicappers that dont' have a 90 mph iron swing, definitely still benefit from the ProV.

Based on yesterday's quick round with themwhere I was just trying to see how far I could hit each one vs actually playing shots with them, I didn't take the 5 or 6 out.  But that will have to change.  I hit the 7 very well today, but there were 3 instances where I knew I was out of 7 iron range, but the next club up was 23 degree hybrid, which is honestly 30 to 35 yards longer than my 7, so a big miss there on putting the bag together this morning.   So on those holes I hit 7 and hit it very well, but came up about 20 yards short of where I needed to be.    So I wil definitely put the 6 iron in next round, and possibly the 5 but that remains to be seen.    I had an extr awedge to that I didn't need so that can be taken out if I put both the 5 and 6 in. 

So early thoughts on these are great.   And lookng forward to the next round, but of course as soon as I came in today, I got the shipping notice that the Forged Tec X I ordered back in Feb are due in.   So it should be a good shootout between the  PXG, Forged Tec X and of course the current T300.

I'm in the Spornia XL Net testng, and I just got a MEVO so I plan to use the Net outdoors with real golf balls and the Mevo to get some pretty good numbers from all three sets.

 

 You really need to start your own thread, WDIBFMACG_2 - What did I buy 5 minutes ago CG_2 . Pretty sure you'd have 20 pages in a week filled!  The space in your office occupied clubs is now at 88% up from 86% with the Forged Tecs coming...

 

MDGolfHacker

[puttnfool]

So what was the main difference between the 0211 and 0311?

[Golfspy_CG2]

2 hours ago, puttnfool said:

So what was the main difference between the 0211 and 0311?

O211DC are cast clubs and only have one model.  It is pretty much a GI club.  But several single digit friends of mine have seen them and really like the looks.  They are also the model without all the screws and look more traditional. 
 

 

0311 is the Original iron which generally has a forged face, and is now on its 5th Design. Appropriately named 0311 Gen 5- There are 3 models in each Gen series. T-A smaller blade type look head for the better player.  The P fits a wide range from low to mid handicaps.  Think of Mizunos JPX Forged Model.  Then the XP which is a larger more GI Head.  
 

Pricing;

The 0211 is probably the best value iron on the market now. At $89 a club, you won’t find a GI model at a similar price that looks and feels as good as it does.  A Cast club that truly has a soft feel to it. 

Gen 5 Lineup 

Any new 0311 release is what people complain about PXG pricing.  Also the 0311 are the clubs with the screws which are always a hot topic. 

Gen5 is the most recent 031q release that came out in January. They are currently $349 a club   But there is a promo going on now called Lucky 7 where you can get any mix of 7 Gen 5 clubs for $1,999

Gen4 which came out in 2021 is now $189 per club   You can get a lucky 7 for $1,199 on those  

Gen 3 came out in 2020 and will be slowly phased out, are currently $129 per club   No Lucky 7 on them  

Hope this all helps a bit  

 

 

 

 

[Cory O]

22 hours ago, puttnfool said:

So what was the main difference between the 0211 and 0311?

 

19 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

O211DC are cast clubs and only have one model.  It is pretty much a GI club.  But several single digit friends of mine have seen them and really like the looks.  They are also the model without all the screws and look more traditional. 
 

 

0311 is the Original iron which generally has a forged face, and is now on its 5th Design. Appropriately named 0311 Gen 5- There are 3 models in each Gen series. T-A smaller blade type look head for the better player.  The P fits a wide range from low to mid handicaps.  Think of Mizunos JPX Forged Model.  Then the XP which is a larger more GI Head.  
 

Pricing;

The 0211 is probably the best value iron on the market now. At $89 a club, you won’t find a GI model at a similar price that looks and feels as good as it does.  A Cast club that truly has a soft feel to it. 

Gen 5 Lineup 

Any new 0311 release is what people complain about PXG pricing.  Also the 0311 are the clubs with the screws which are always a hot topic. 

Gen5 is the most recent 031q release that came out in January. They are currently $349 a club   But there is a promo going on now called Lucky 7 where you can get any mix of 7 Gen 5 clubs for $1,999

Gen4 which came out in 2021 is now $189 per club   You can get a lucky 7 for $1,199 on those  

Gen 3 came out in 2020 and will be slowly phased out, are currently $129 per club   No Lucky 7 on them  

Hope this all helps a bit  

 

 

 

 

I've extensively played both full bags. My GEN5 0311 thoughts are here: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/50307-pxg-0311-gen5-and-full-bag-fit-experience/

I reviewed the 0211 bag for a different site last year: https://practical-golf.com/pxg-0211-review-2021/

Definitely agree that the 0221's are the best new club value out there right now. Add in a fitting and it really is unmatched, even by well-priced DTC brands. Happy to answer any questions about anything.

[Golfspy_CG2]

Long Post Alert—But stick with it. I need moral support on whst to do!

 I had a full bag fitting at the new DC Area Store, my fitter was Joe..Great guy very fun to work with and kept it light and informative. 

  I went in went in with a brand new set of 0211, that have seen one round. I told him I liked them so much that I wanted to see if the Gen 4 or 5 would be any better.  He just laughed.  I don't blame him. 

On the irons, we hit my current ones to get a baseline, I have the 0211 with the NS Pro 850 R flex shaft.  

We tried the following shafts:
NS Pro 850 R
TT Elevate 95 R
Steelfiber I70 and I80
KBS TGI 70 

The best results were the SteelFiber I70.  Ihave hit just about every shaft on the market in different demo/fittings except for the SF.  Ihad always assumed and heard it was much stiffer than Recoil and other graphite shafts.  Well it was, but it was a bit less firm than the NS Pro and definitely less firm than the TT Elevate. 

As for performance, I got about 2 more MPH ball speed with the SF but a much tighter dispersion.   Over the NS Pro 850 which was the 2nd best performer.

So without me saying anything, Joe said, "I don't thnk you really need new irons, unless you just really like that shaft.  But the performance gains are very slight for the cost.  

Man this was refreshing to hear from a "salesperson" he could have easily tried to take the  apporach of saving shots with the dispersion etc. 

He told me the 0211 irons are absoutely their best irons for the value.  He said it's really hard to beat those when someone comes in.  

The only other thing he mentioned that would be a plus with the Gen 5 is the ability to tweak and adjust if I wanted to down the line.  If I need them bent or weights changed.  

The 0211 being Cast are not as easily bent as forged, which I knew and was aware of.  But the ability to tweak the weights if I needed is something to keep in mind—or just plain justification LOL

I have another 2 weeks on the 0211 to return for credit if I decide.  

I'll be playing my 2nd round with them tomorrow and I suspect I'll only get more comfortable with them as time goes on. 

Despite his assertion that I don’t need irons (Don’t tell Bob he said that/ha) I feel like I’m missing out on not having the Gen5.  
 

i am strongly considering lucky 7 or even just full set of Gen 3 irons for their price.   

i did order the Gen5 Driver as I picked up some ball speed over my Stelath and higher flight.   I got the Diamana S+ 60 R flex.  

I didn’t see anything in the FW or Hybrid that was earth shattering.  

Didn’t even bother with wedges or putter at my request.  I am really set there and wanted to spend a lot of time on irons. 

As for the store, some of you have been to one in your area.  It’s new to us. .  It's a spectacular store, with lots of space and the hitting bays are very spacious, you don't feel cramped at all like you do at some indoor places.

Oh and the merchandise, it's a good thing I was running a bit behind on getting out of there, otherwise I could have racked up quite a shopping spree with the hats/shirts and other accessories 

If you are even thinking about PXG  I highly recommned booking a fitting  at a store or HQ If you can.

Joe was awesome, and I overhead the fitter in the next bay, and he was very on point with things I heard him telling his customer as well.  

A very good experience!

 

[Cory O]

6 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

A very good experience!

With all the PXG fitters I've met/dealt with, to a person they seem to be there to find the best set for you/your budget. I find it kind of crazy that PXG doesn't have a dedicated store in LA, but maybe next time I'll have to take a trip to Scottsdale.

And yeah, I could go back to the 0211's and probably not miss too much performance wise (as long as I get to keep my SteelFiber shafts in them).

[edingc]

32 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Long Post Alert—But stick with it. I need moral support on whst to do!

 

 I had a full bag fitting at the new DC Area Store, my fitter was Joe..Great guy very fun to work with and kept it light and informative. 
 

  I went in went in with a brand new set of 0211, that have seen one round. I told him I liked them so much that I wanted to see if the Gen 4 or 5 would be any better.  He just laughed.  I don't blame him. 

 

On the irons, we hit my current ones to get a baseline, I have the 0211 with the NS Pro 850 R flex shaft.  
 

We tried the following shafts:
NS Pro 850 R
TT Elevate 95 R
Steelfiber I70 and I80
KBS TGI 70 

 

The best results were the SteelFiber I70.  Ihave hit just about every shaft on the market in different demo/fittings except for the SF.  Ihad always assumed and heard it was much stiffer than Recoil and other graphite shafts.  Well it was, but it was a bit less firm than the NS Pro and definitely less firm than the TT Elevate. 
 

As for performance, I got about 2 more MPH ball speed with the SF but a much tighter dispersion.   Over the NS Pro 850 which was the 2nd best performer.

 

So without me saying anything, Joe said, "I don't thnk you really need new irons, unless you just really like that shaft.  But the performance gains are very slight for the cost.  
 

Man this was refreshing to hear from a "salesperson" he could have easily tried to take the  apporach of saving shots with the dispersion etc. 

 

He told me the 0211 irons are absoutely their best irons for the value.  He said it's really hard to beat those when someone comes in.  
 

The only other thing he mentioned that would be a plus with the Gen 5 is the ability to tweak and adjust if I wanted to down the line.  If I need them bent or weights changed.  
 

The 0211 being Cast are not as easily bent as forged, which I knew and was aware of.  But the ability to tweak the weights if I needed is something to keep in mind—or just plain justification LOL
 

 

I have another 2 weeks on the 0211 to return for credit if I decide.  
 

I'll be playing my 2nd round with them tomorrow and I suspect I'll only get more comfortable with them as time goes on. 
 

Despite his assertion that I don’t need irons (Don’t tell Bob he said that/ha) I feel like I’m missing out on not having the Gen5.  
 

i am strongly considering lucky 7 or even just full set of Gen 3 irons for their price.   

i did order the Gen5 Driver as I picked up some ball speed over my Stelath and higher flight.   I got the Diamana S+ 60 R flex.  
 

I didn’t see anything in the FW or Hybrid that was earth shattering.  
 

Didn’t even bother with wedges or putter at my request.  I am really set there and wanted to spend a lot of time on irons. 
 

As for the store, some of you have been to one in your area.  It’s new to us. .  It's a spectacular store, with lots of space and the hitting bays are very spacious, you don't feel cramped at all like you do at some indoor places.

 

Oh and the merchandise, it's a good thing I was running a bit behind on getting out of there, otherwise I could have racked up quite a shopping spree with the hats/shirts and other accessories 

 

If you are even thinking about PXG  I highly recommned booking a fitting  at a store or HQ If you can.
 

Joe was awesome, and I overhead the fitter in the next bay, and he was very on point with things I heard him telling his customer as well.  

A very good experience!

 

I mean, it sounds like you need the new irons. 

[Golfspy_CG2]

1 hour ago, edingc said:

I mean, it sounds like you need the new irons. 

Thanks. That’s what I think to. But wanted to get an unbiased opinion.  I mean it’s not like anyone on this site would encourage needlessly buying new clubs or anything.

[MattWillGolf]

14 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Thanks. That’s what I think to. But wanted to get an unbiased opinion.  I mean it’s not like anyone on this site would encourage needlessly buying new clubs or anything.

Would you walk into a candy store and ask for broccoli?

[Golfspy_CG2]

22 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Long Post Alert—But stick with it. I need moral support on whst to do!

 I had a full bag fitting at the new DC Area Store, my fitter was Joe..Great guy very fun to work with and kept it light and informative. 

  I went in went in with a brand new set of 0211, that have seen one round. I told him I liked them so much that I wanted to see if the Gen 4 or 5 would be any better.  He just laughed.  I don't blame him. 

On the irons, we hit my current ones to get a baseline, I have the 0211 with the NS Pro 850 R flex shaft.  

We tried the following shafts:
NS Pro 850 R
TT Elevate 95 R
Steelfiber I70 and I80
KBS TGI 70 

The best results were the SteelFiber I70.  Ihave hit just about every shaft on the market in different demo/fittings except for the SF.  Ihad always assumed and heard it was much stiffer than Recoil and other graphite shafts.  Well it was, but it was a bit less firm than the NS Pro and definitely less firm than the TT Elevate. 

As for performance, I got about 2 more MPH ball speed with the SF but a much tighter dispersion.   Over the NS Pro 850 which was the 2nd best performer.

So without me saying anything, Joe said, "I don't thnk you really need new irons, unless you just really like that shaft.  But the performance gains are very slight for the cost.  

Man this was refreshing to hear from a "salesperson" he could have easily tried to take the  apporach of saving shots with the dispersion etc. 

He told me the 0211 irons are absoutely their best irons for the value.  He said it's really hard to beat those when someone comes in.  

The only other thing he mentioned that would be a plus with the Gen 5 is the ability to tweak and adjust if I wanted to down the line.  If I need them bent or weights changed.  

The 0211 being Cast are not as easily bent as forged, which I knew and was aware of.  But the ability to tweak the weights if I needed is something to keep in mind—or just plain justification LOL

I have another 2 weeks on the 0211 to return for credit if I decide.  

I'll be playing my 2nd round with them tomorrow and I suspect I'll only get more comfortable with them as time goes on. 

Despite his assertion that I don’t need irons (Don’t tell Bob he said that/ha) I feel like I’m missing out on not having the Gen5.  
 

i am strongly considering lucky 7 or even just full set of Gen 3 irons for their price.   

i did order the Gen5 Driver as I picked up some ball speed over my Stelath and higher flight.   I got the Diamana S+ 60 R flex.  

I didn’t see anything in the FW or Hybrid that was earth shattering.  

Didn’t even bother with wedges or putter at my request.  I am really set there and wanted to spend a lot of time on irons. 

As for the store, some of you have been to one in your area.  It’s new to us. .  It's a spectacular store, with lots of space and the hitting bays are very spacious, you don't feel cramped at all like you do at some indoor places.

Oh and the merchandise, it's a good thing I was running a bit behind on getting out of there, otherwise I could have racked up quite a shopping spree with the hats/shirts and other accessories 

If you are even thinking about PXG  I highly recommned booking a fitting  at a store or HQ If you can.

Joe was awesome, and I overhead the fitter in the next bay, and he was very on point with things I heard him telling his customer as well.  

A very good experience!

 

So a follow up to this.  I placed the Gen 5 Lucky 7 order today!   6-GW with Steelfiber and 22 degree XF hybrid.  #CAn'twait

 

But now to return the 0211 for the 30 day credit. ....Unless someone wants to make a good offer get a deaL!

 

 

[cksurfdude]

3 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I placed the Gen 5 Lucky 7 order today! 

NICE!!!

The only thing I was gonna add was don't bother with the Gen3s if you'd tried Gen5 and were ready to $splurge$ for those.

I'd do it (Gen5 over 0211) to get a little more oomph in the head but right now my best gains are coming from improving my swing technique. And my course management......

[Golfspy_CG2]

1 hour ago, cksurfdude said:

NICE!!!

The only thing I was gonna add was don't bother with the Gen3s if you'd tried Gen5 and were ready to $splurge$ for those.

I'd do it (Gen5 over 0211) to get a little more oomph in the head but right now my best gains are coming from improving my swing technique. And my course management......

I think the Gen 5’s come with a guaranteed improved swing technique in addition to the actual technology of the club.  Pretty sure I read that somewhere

But yeah.  I used the same logic as to when I bought my Highlander in November.   The base model Would have served me fine and had tbe basics of what I needed.   But the XLE with the Audio package added things I probably would have had regrets over not going ahead with the higher level model.  

Now the wait.  Although with PXG it’s only like 7 days as opposed to weeks or months with some other OEM’s 
 

[Kwalks]

Like OP, I got fit both over the phone and in person. This was back in 2020 and I originally got the driver fitted over the phone during covid. I was itching for a new driver and in person wasn't an option. The person I spoke with was definitely knowledgeable, but things can still get lost in translation pretty easily (more on that later).

After getting the driver and liking it, I decided to upgrade my irons from my old Taylormade Rocketballz. By this point the world had slightly opened up and I was able to get fitted in person. I would highly recommend this if possible - especially since you can go to Liberty National if you're in the NY/NJ area. (PXG has their own bay on the range, but I was able to get out on the club range for a swing or two). Like OP, I originally was going to get the 0211, but as I talked with the fitter, I found out the year old model 0311 (gen2 at that point) was only another $20 per club. I ended up going 4-6 in 0211 and 7-GW with 0311 gen2. The difference isn't massive, but I would say the 0311 is definitely softer off the face and my launch numbers were better. The biggest benefit though was as OP mentioned, the ability to change shafts that weren't listed online. I ended up getting KBS C-Taper 130g X-Stiff shafts for an upcharge per club. This is something I definitely feel wouldnt have happened over the phone - numbers were dramatically better with these than stock.

The last cherry on top was I brought my driver I bought over the phone to get numbers and just confirm it was the best option, which they had no problem with. As I found out, I had the wrong driver head for my game. Like I said earlier, things can get lost in translation over the phone. I told them my big miss is a slice and I need more forgiveness, so they fitted me into the XF club head. This is the "more foregiving" club head. The fitter in person explained this is more forgiving if you have an issue getting the ball in the air, it will increase spin to help with that.  Keeping the ball straight was my issue so this was actually creating more side spin and making the slice worse. Luckily they were happy for me to send my driver head back for the correct one.

All in all - would highly recommend the fitting experience with PXG.

[Cory O]

Posted on the wrong thread! Sorry