thechrisgibbs Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 The past few year, I've been able to drive my handicap down from 15+ to 5.6. I find that having a home sim setup allows me to keep warm in the winter which has been really nice. I really do want to get down to a scratch level of golf. I've never broken par on an 18-hole round. The issue I've been finding to be holding me back the most is ball striking consistency. Here's the situation: My mental game has been excellent and allowed me to keep scores under 80 by maximizing scoring opportunities and playing smart golf. The worst part of my game is actually approaching the green. I was fit for irons and am thrilled with my current setup. The real issue is ball striking. Day-to-day, I find I strike the ball from the toe one day, the heel the next, thin another day and occasionally fat. What's the best drill you've used to get more consistent? I've tried a few things, but I won't list them here in case someone else stumbles upon this thread looking for even the most basic drills. edingc, berkeleybob, GolfSpy_APH and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Stealth 8* turned down to 6* X-Stiff, Graphite Design Tour AD XC-6 3 Wood: Sim 14* X-Stiff, Aldila Rogue Silver 2 Iron/2 Hybrid: Mizuno MP-20 HMB, Graphite Design Tour AD; Forged Tec set to 17* X-Stiff, Catalyst 6.0 P-4 Irons: MP20, Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges: Vokey SM9 50 degree 08F, 56 degree 08M and 60 degree 08M My Putter: B.2, LA Golf Shaft Ball: AVX 5.3 Handicapped; Right Hander; from Salt Lake City, Utah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I don't have a drill per say, but one thing my instructor has mentioned is to just simplify things when stuff starts going awry. If you're hitting the toe, try hitting the heel, etc. That being said, I'm in a very similar situation, having gone from 20+ to ~7 to ~9 depending on if I string a few rounds together. I don't know if scratch is in my future because of where I play (both region - weather - and course - weak rating and slope), but I'd love to get to a five this season. To do so I'd need to shoot +3 or better 8/20 rounds at my home course after only doing that four times last season in total. I've come to terms that there is never going to be a moment where I'm not needing to make some change in a feel or focus to play my best. I had always hoped I'd get to a point where the swing would just be "natural," and I'd just go out and play, but for me I need to be very conscious of things or else it falls apart very quickly. Now, a lot of that is just making sure the fundamentals are good, but I'm never without some sort of thought. Some days are more autopilot than others, but there's always a thought. Not sure if that helps, but I definitely feel as though I'm in the same boat. thechrisgibbs, cnosil and ejgaudette 3 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.1 / Anti-Cap: 13.8 (Last Updated August 31, 2023) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I have similar issues and approach is my weakness due to old age lack of distance. This past winter I spent a lot of time in my hitting bay working on better ball striking. It was not one day it's this and the next day it's that, but I could hit 20 balls of this and then 20 more balls of that. On course, I would play well for a while then hit a horrible shot; I didn't know which shot would show up at any given moment. However, I will say that overall I'm better now than I was last year at this time. The difference for me is a coach who pointed out some setup and swing issues. I spent more time on these all winter (more time than actual playing); hitting half shots with 7i and PW trying to groove my backswing and transition feels. I also have to give credit to the Tour Striker PlaneMate which helped change impact position. I eliminated the heel shots which always frustrated me more than anything else. thechrisgibbs and cnosil 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I’ll reference Adam Young for my response. Adam advocates working to be able to hit the ball off the toe, heel, and center of the face. I tried to do a quick search but couldn’t find his video but you work at intentionally hitting balls of those locations which helps you understand how to adjust your swing if you on the course and start experiencing heel ,or toe strikes and how to hit the center more consistently edingc and alfriday101 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Best drill is having a qualified instructor look at your swing and let them identify what you need. On a basic level you lose control of the face. You need to identify what’s causing it. Something as simple as working on the swing with an alignment stick connected to/inserted into the club and placed on trail hit and working on takeaway, wrist set, backswing. It could be that you have out of sequenced swing and your compensations vary from day to day. The honest truth is what drill works for one won’t for someone else Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyWifesSwingCoach Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) First, Obligatory certified golf instructor knows best. Find an instructor that is very knowledgeable but in my opinion more importantly find an instructor that explains the issue he or she identifies as well as how to correct the issue in a way that you understand. Now for what has always helped me with ball striking: I don't remember where I saw or heard this but it has stuck. Have a simple image in your head of your iron hitting the ball, specifically of the leading edge acting as a wedge (the tool, not the club) between the ball and the ground at impact. This can be used at the range without concern for where the ball goes to work on strike and also utilized during your round as a regular swing thought. As for the heel to toe strike issue, recently I heard of this tip: At setup, place your club face with the ball in the center. Then move the club forward (Ball at the heel/hosel) and try to remember how that feels. Then pull the club back and set the ball up at the toe and do the same. Re-center and get comfortable to swing. I hope this helps Edited May 3, 2022 by MyWifesSwingCoach Clarification Quote Driver - R9 Superdeep TP 10.5* - Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana 65g XStiff Shaft 3 Wood - 2020 Tight Lies 16* - Aldila Synergy Red 50-S Shaft 2 Hybrid - Idea Pro - Aldila VS Proto+ 'By You' 80-S Shaft 3 Iron - R7TP DGTT SL S300 Shaft 4-9 Irons - R7TP DGTT X-100 Shafts (6i has mismatched Project X 6.0 shaft) Sand Wedge - Adams GT XTreme 2 SW Putter - Heppler Tomcat 14 Ball - Tour Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakbryce Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I always think lessons are good. But you could try hitting 40 yard pitches with a 3/4 swing so you can feel the club head without speed getting in the way. You want to hit those with 2 balls in play, one a club head ahead of the other along the target line. This is a great drill. You should be able to hit both in the center of the club face about the same distance but they will have a slightly different trajectory. Should be able to pick out the problem pretty quickly if it is a path issue. You have an indoor sim, you can hit a lot of these. Good luck. Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 9:15 AM, thechrisgibbs said: The past few year, I've been able to drive my handicap down from 15+ to 5.6. I find that having a home sim setup allows me to keep warm in the winter which has been really nice. I really do want to get down to a scratch level of golf. I've never broken par on an 18-hole round. The issue I've been finding to be holding me back the most is ball striking consistency. Here's the situation: My mental game has been excellent and allowed me to keep scores under 80 by maximizing scoring opportunities and playing smart golf. The worst part of my game is actually approaching the green. I was fit for irons and am thrilled with my current setup. The real issue is ball striking. Day-to-day, I find I strike the ball from the toe one day, the heel the next, thin another day and occasionally fat. What's the best drill you've used to get more consistent? I've tried a few things, but I won't list them here in case someone else stumbles upon this thread looking for even the most basic drills. I quit reading the post after the "...handicap down from 15+ to 5.6". I don't have any specific tips other than what has been posted but just wanted to show my support to your plight by saying you're not alone. Also, I am finding that getting closer to that consistent ball striking and putting perfection thingy follows an asymptotic curve. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higherplane Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Agree with many that lessons are in order, however with home sim data you may be able to figure out some of your issues. Depending on your sim you may be able to get face angle and angle of attack for each shot. Essentially with irons you should be hitting down on the ball and with driver opposite. Good luck. Quote All Fitted-- Driver - 2017 Callaway Epic Subzero 10.5d (same as Kevin Na), 3 Wood -2017 Epic Subzero 15d, 3 Hybrid Mavrik, X-forged 4-PW, Wedges Callaway 4 52-56-60, Odyssey Toulon Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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