berkeleybob Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 After being out on the range the other week, I was reviewing my yardages for each club and I noticed that I get about 100 yards off a full swing with both my pitching wedge, Mizuno JPX 900 45°, and my gap wedge, Cleveland CBX2 50°. I used to get a about 80 yards with my 50° before, but something’s changed. I’m not sure what to do with this information. Were you me, would you want to correct this by making a club change or adjustment, would you make a swing adjustment, or would you just play on, making your PW your 100 yard club and using a 3/4 swing to make your GW a 75-80 yard club? Or would you do something else? Quote WITB 2024 DRIVER AEROJET 10.5° | FAIRWAY ROGUE ST MAX 3/15° HYBRID G410 21° | UTILITY 699 V2 U 5/23° IRONS 699 V2 6-PW WEDGES CBX 2 50°, 54°, 58° | PUTTER KS1 BALL MODEL | PRO | SUPERSOFT BAG 3.5 LS | PUSHCART RV1S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 hours ago, berkeleybob said: After being out on the range the other week, I was reviewing my yardages for each club and I noticed that I get about 100 yards off a full swing with both my pitching wedge, Mizuno JPX 900 45°, and my gap wedge, Cleveland CBX2 50°. I used to get a about 80 yards with my 50° before, but something’s changed. I’m not sure what to do with this information. Were you me, would you want to correct this by making a club change or adjustment, would you make a swing adjustment, or would you just play on, making your PW your 100 yard club and using a 3/4 swing to make your GW a 75-80 yard club? Or would you do something else? I don’t know what you have in the bag after the 50. What are you club gappings for the clubs prior to and after the clubs you mentioned. as far as thought process….some people never full swing some of their wedges so the 3/4 swing might be acceptable. Maybe you gap we’ve got bent stronger so you are hitting it farther so getting it fixed might be an option. If the club below the 50 fits nicely, maybe remove the 50 and fill another gap. basically need more information to give you recommendations without asking questions. berkeleybob 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberry_Squishie Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I'd double check that they are actually going the same distance and that the lofts are actually what they're stated to be. With what's meant to be 5° of loft difference, for them to go the same distance needs further investigation before you make any purchases. Perhaps get someone to check the lofts. The gap might not be 5°. Also see if you can get a launch monitor with the balls you use to see they actually go the same distance. cnosil, GregGarner, THEZIPR23 and 1 other 4 Quote Cobra F9 9.5° (Hzrdus Yellow X) Cobra Speedzone 15° (Tensei Blue X) Srixon H85 19° (Hzrdus Black 85 6.0) Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-PW (KBS $ Taper 120S) Mizuno T20 51°, 55°, 59° (KBS $ Taper 120S) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 34" Srixon ZStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 hours ago, berkeleybob said: After being out on the range the other week, I was reviewing my yardages for each club and I noticed that I get about 100 yards off a full swing with both my pitching wedge, Mizuno JPX 900 45°, and my gap wedge, Cleveland CBX2 50°. I used to get a about 80 yards with my 50° before, but something’s changed. I’m not sure what to do with this information. Were you me, would you want to correct this by making a club change or adjustment, would you make a swing adjustment, or would you just play on, making your PW your 100 yard club and using a 3/4 swing to make your GW a 75-80 yard club? Or would you do something else? I would go to a course or field and mark off that yardage, mark balls to indicate which one came from pw and gw, then hit balls to that target and verify what you are seeing is true. If so then have the lofts checked on your clubs to very they are what they are supposed to be. I have several swings with all of my wedges and to an extent my scoring irons. Long and slow, shorter and faster and in between as well as choking down berkeleybob and GregGarner 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregGarner Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Blueberry_Squishie said: Perhaps get someone to check the lofts. The gap might not be 5° This was my first thought. I have a 46-deg set PW and bought a 52 specialty GW. Stock PW is 125 and thought a 52 should get me close to 100. On the course, my absolute best shots were 90. Took the GW to a guy with a Mitchell machine and he confirmed it was actually 54 degrees. Bent it and suddenly it's a smooth 100 and can be juiced to 110, which is a much more reasonable gap! If you get the lofts checked and it is a 5-degree gap and you're just not seeing the right yardage gap, I'd either bend one or drop one. You don't need that tight of overlap. berkeleybob 1 Quote Driver: ZX5 LS MkII 9.5* (@ 9.0*) with 46.5" Ventus Blue 6X 3-wood: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S 5-wood: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S 2i: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff 4hy: TS3 23* with Tensei AV Blue 70 S 4i-7i ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S 50*, 55* RTX 6 Modus3 Tour 125 60* RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400 Putter: Toulon Chicago with a Quad Tour or HB SOFT Milled 10.5S with UST All-in Ball: Chrome Tour (but I might still have some Left Dashes hanging around) Bag: Ltd Edition Tartan, blue/green/yellow Using to keep track of my shots Tested: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review Vero X2 - Official Review The Stack System - Official Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyMatt89 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I agree a lot with the above to get lofts checked. Are shafts the same in both too? Maybe you swing one faster than the other? It wouldn’t be uncommon for the 45* to be a degree or two off and same with wedge. I would definitely check them out and get one fixed because it would be better to have clubs have different stock yardages to give you a more complete gapping. berkeleybob 1 Quote Driver: TSR3 8 Ventus Red TR 8X Fairway: TSi2 16.5 Ventus Blue 8X Hybrid: Sim 2 - 19 Hybrid Tensei Orange 90TX Irons: P790 4-5 P7MC Raw 6-PW MMT 125TX Wedges: SM8 50.10F, 54.10S - X100 & 58.04T S400 Putter: Lajosi DD201 Pro V1X Left Dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkeleybob Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 Thanks, folks. That’s a good amount to think about. I went back to my top tracer app too look at my stats, and from what you’re all saying, maybe something did happen to my wedge. I’ll check it on the range one more time, and if I get the same result I’ll check out the wedges and irons’ loft. Quote WITB 2024 DRIVER AEROJET 10.5° | FAIRWAY ROGUE ST MAX 3/15° HYBRID G410 21° | UTILITY 699 V2 U 5/23° IRONS 699 V2 6-PW WEDGES CBX 2 50°, 54°, 58° | PUTTER KS1 BALL MODEL | PRO | SUPERSOFT BAG 3.5 LS | PUSHCART RV1S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTVMAN Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Go to a driving range that has TopTracer. The app allows all the info to go directly to your phone and you can then decide which set up works for you. Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Fujikura Ventus TR Ping G425 Max 5-7-9 Fairway Woods w/Ping Alta CB Ping G425 Irons 5-U w/Ping Alta CB (Power-Spec Lofts) Ping 4.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap Ping Redwood ZB Putter w/PP58 PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Wrap Mid-Size Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfnut0226 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 13 hours ago, berkeleybob said: After being out on the range the other week, I was reviewing my yardages for each club and I noticed that I get about 100 yards off a full swing with both my pitching wedge, Mizuno JPX 900 45°, and my gap wedge, Cleveland CBX2 50°. I used to get a about 80 yards with my 50° before, but something’s changed. I’m not sure what to do with this information. Were you me, would you want to correct this by making a club change or adjustment, would you make a swing adjustment, or would you just play on, making your PW your 100 yard club and using a 3/4 swing to make your GW a 75-80 yard club? Or would you do something else? learn to hit different shots with different wedges ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChitownM2 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 measure the length of both as well. Some club mfrs make the PW and gap wedge the same length so the loft difference creates a yardage gap, but if you have an older set PW and then a newer specialized gap wedge, it's possible that the gap wedge could be longer than your PW which might explain why they go the same length despite the loft difference. Stuka44 and berkeleybob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 As advised by #Blueberry_Squishie, I'd first validate the lofts on each club (do them all while you're at it) and check the length of each. Then, get on a launch monitor and confirm: 1.) The distances that you're actually hitting them and the clubs either side of them 2.) The dynamic loft that you're applying to them (if your lofts are correct, it could be that with your 50 degree wedge you are reducing loft at impact through shaft lean) The last thing to do would be to buy another wedge as you'll have the same issue if you don't know what's going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkeleybob Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 12 hours ago, HDTVMAN said: Go to a driving range that has TopTracer. The app allows all the info to go directly to your phone and you can then decide which set up works for you. Yep, I’ve been using TopTracer to track my clubs. My PW has been a 100 yds at full swing. My 50° has been consistently at around 85 yards. I think the next time I’m back at the range, I’ll take some full swings with my gap wedge again and see how it’s doing. But at the moment, I just checked over my club distances, and yes, I’ve got some gap issues showing up now. I have been working on changing my swing, so that might be one of the causes. I might have to find somebody to help me out with a gapping session. Quote WITB 2024 DRIVER AEROJET 10.5° | FAIRWAY ROGUE ST MAX 3/15° HYBRID G410 21° | UTILITY 699 V2 U 5/23° IRONS 699 V2 6-PW WEDGES CBX 2 50°, 54°, 58° | PUTTER KS1 BALL MODEL | PRO | SUPERSOFT BAG 3.5 LS | PUSHCART RV1S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Do you tend to hit off of mats at the range often? If so, definitely go get your lofts checked. I have mine checked in the spring after playing some indoor golf (necessary up here for 6 months of winter) and the lofts generally need to be all tweaked by then. The shorter irons especially tend to get out of spec quickly for me. berkeleybob 1 Quote I am brand agnostic. If it is in my bag it is because it works for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkeleybob Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 4 hours ago, TripleB said: Do you tend to hit off of mats at the range often? If so, definitely go get your lofts checked. I have mine checked in the spring after playing some indoor golf (necessary up here for 6 months of winter) and the lofts generally need to be all tweaked by then. The shorter irons especially tend to get out of spec quickly for me. That’s a good point. I do hit on the range often. The mats there are pretty good, but none the less, the next time I hit the pro shop, I’ll see about getting lofts on my irons and wedges checked. Quote WITB 2024 DRIVER AEROJET 10.5° | FAIRWAY ROGUE ST MAX 3/15° HYBRID G410 21° | UTILITY 699 V2 U 5/23° IRONS 699 V2 6-PW WEDGES CBX 2 50°, 54°, 58° | PUTTER KS1 BALL MODEL | PRO | SUPERSOFT BAG 3.5 LS | PUSHCART RV1S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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