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I really like my double wide putter and I make consistent contact in the center of the putter face. The only issue is I have trouble squaring the putter through the impact zone, leading to putters starting off line. I have started practicing with a blade putter with more toe hang. While I seem to be starting putts on line much more frequently, I’m finding my strike tends to stray from the center more often. Both putters have the same head weight, length, etc. This is probably a result of my comfort level with my old gamer (the double wide), but it made be wonder which is more desirable in everyone’s opinion: consistency with contact or consistency with squaring the putter face?
 

Hopefully my question makes sense.

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16 minutes ago, GF_SGCC99 said:

I really like my double wide putter and I make consistent contact in the center of the putter face. The only issue is I have trouble squaring the putter through the impact zone, leading to putters starting off line. I have started practicing with a blade putter with more toe hang. While I seem to be starting putts on line much more frequently, I’m finding my strike tends to stray from the center more often. Both putters have the same head weight, length, etc. This is probably a result of my comfort level with my old gamer (the double wide), but it made be wonder which is more desirable in everyone’s opinion: consistency with contact or consistency with squaring the putter face?
 

Hopefully my question makes sense.

While I haven't done any scientific study, it seems to me that starting the ball on your intended line is absolutely critical.  Obviously speed and read are the other important factors, but you can make any straight putt with a little inconsistency in speed, which is what off-center contact is likely to cause.

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5 hours ago, GF_SGCC99 said:

 consistency with contact or consistency with squaring the putter face?
 

Depends on how much your face angle varies.    if you are pretty consistent then I would take consistency in contact because I would put speed control a little higher on the priority list.  

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Dave Pelz thinks line is more important. 

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31 minutes ago, Hook DeLoft said:

Dave Pelz thinks line is more important. 

Not sure about that especially since he says the ball should use the speed to get the ball 17 inches past the hole.   That makes me think he thinks speed is first priority.  

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3 hours ago, cnosil said:

Not sure about that especially since he says the ball should use the speed to get the ball 17 inches past the hole.   That makes me think he thinks speed is first priority.  

I’m was going off memory. I’ll have to get the book out and double check. 

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12 hours ago, Hook DeLoft said:

Dave Pelz thinks line is more important. 

To me, line is more important on shorter putts, putts that you have a real chance to make.  If you have erratic control of your line, you'll miss a lot of those.  For longer putts, the ones you want to get moderately close for an easy 2-putt, distance is most important.  Its unusual for a combination of read and line control to leave you as far away as erratic distance control can.

I think most of us learn to read greens through experience, we make an initial "guess" and learn from watching the results, adapting our read for the next chance.  But if you can't hit your intended line, or your distance is erratic, you're learning to read greens based on faulty data.  So to me, line is first, speed control is second, and green-reading is the final piece of the puzzle.  To make one putt right now, each one is critical in its own right, but learning to putt you should be building one piece on top of another.

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21 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

To me, line is more important on shorter putts, putts that you have a real chance to make.  If you have erratic control of your line, you'll miss a lot of those.  For longer putts, the ones you want to get moderately close for an easy 2-putt, distance is most important.  Its unusual for a combination of read and line control to leave you as far away as erratic distance control can.

I think most of us learn to read greens through experience, we make an initial "guess" and learn from watching the results, adapting our read for the next chance.  But if you can't hit your intended line, or your distance is erratic, you're learning to read greens based on faulty data.  So to me, line is first, speed control is second, and green-reading is the final piece of the puzzle.  To make one putt right now, each one is critical in its own right, but learning to putt you should be building one piece on top of another.

Definitely agree with you; all aspects are important and very interrelated. The added complexity is that there are multiple line/speed combinations that will work for putts so it is about right speed for the right line.  As a player you need to be able to understand you line or speed mistake because putts can still go in the hole when you make a mistake or miss the hole when you do everything perfect.  

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

Definitely agree with you; all aspects are important and very interrelated. The added complexity is that there are multiple line/speed combinations that will work for putts so it is about right speed for the right line.  As a player you need to be able to understand you line or speed mistake because putts can still go in the hole when you make a mistake or miss the hole when you do everything perfect.  

Agree. Aggressive putters are going to have a different line and speed compared to a less aggressive putter.

The golfer has to know their speed and pick their line based off that 

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4 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

To me, line is more important on shorter putts, putts that you have a real chance to make.  If you have erratic control of your line, you'll miss a lot of those.  For longer putts, the ones you want to get moderately close for an easy 2-putt, distance is most important.  Its unusual for a combination of read and line control to leave you as far away as erratic distance control can.

I think most of us learn to read greens through experience, we make an initial "guess" and learn from watching the results, adapting our read for the next chance.  But if you can't hit your intended line, or your distance is erratic, you're learning to read greens based on faulty data.  So to me, line is first, speed control is second, and green-reading is the final piece of the puzzle.  To make one putt right now, each one is critical in its own right, but learning to putt you should be building one piece on top of another.

Pulling 3-5 footers is what led to me making the putter change. I’d been reading on toe hang and it’s affects on closure rate, and thought that this new-to-me putter might aid my stroke.  Practicing with this new putter and struggling with making consistent center contact is what got me asking this question. Again, I likely just need more practice with the new putter. Putting is by far the weakest part of my game, and is my main target area to strengthen this season.

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