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Switching from Pro V1X - Tour B X, Z Star XV?


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Sigh.  Another Bridgestone ball does poorly in ball lab; think I’d better switch back to the Pro V1X and just learn to play with the spin I get…

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51 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Sigh.  Another Bridgestone ball does poorly in ball lab; think I’d better switch back to the Pro V1X and just learn to play with the spin I get…

AVX?  

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On 4/26/2022 at 2:27 PM, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

ProV1. gives me check but not a ton

Interesting because I find the ProV1 spins a lot more on shots into the green than the ProV1X.  

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Did you try the MaxFli Tour Ball?  CKSurferdude gave me a sleeve of them at Queenstown and I finally got around to put it in play yesterday.  Definitely spun less than ProV1 or PV1X, but still checked nicely on the green.  

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I used to game the Tour B X. Loved it off the tee but for me little too much run out on the green. Next up was the prior gen CS XLS. Again very good off the tee. It was a fine balance for me around the green with the older XLS. The softer/more wet courses I play in Florida I’d lose spin and still get more roll out due to the moist conditions and not as solid face contact with the stickier grass.

if you have already a high trajectory with your spin, than you can give up some ball spin. If you have more of a natural lower trajectory, then a V1X, CS X Snell MTB X would help. But sounds like if you may already have a natural higher trajectory like me and high spin. So I tend to now lean away from the X balls. I actually lost distance with V1X, CS X, and MTB X with too high trajectory and spin.

based on the MGS reviews I gave the Maxfli Tours a shot. Like MGS and many others found, for me they play exactly like the ProVs. I’m a believer now. I started with the Tour X with the higher compression as I’m also 105-108 SS. Same performance as the V1X/CSX/MTBX. So I gave in and gave the standard Tour slightly lower compression a shot. I was a little nervous with the slightly lower compression. For me again I think the play just like the ProV1s. That’s my new gamer. Love the Maxfli Tour! Can’t beat the price tag either. The mid launch is awesome. And just enough spin off wedges/approach irons I get 1-3 feet release from landing pitchmark on the green. The biggest difference is they don’t pop of the putter face like the firmer balls do so learning to adjust the feel and speed control.

I haven’t hit much of the 22 CS XLS but that would have to be my secondary ball.

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@GetoffmylawnMy experience with the Tour BX is the same as @RDel90: I couldn’t get the ball to check around the green. Too much roll out; but I loved this ball off the tee and from the fairway from 185 and out. Good wind ball too. CSxls, Snell Mtbx, and Maxfli Tour X would all be balls I’d recommend you try: with the Mtbx behaving like a cheaper tour BX, and the maxfli behaving very similarly to a prov1x as far as ball flight and spin, imo.

 

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Check around the green is as much technique as it is the ball. 
 

I’ve seen good players check the old Bridgestone e6 balls. Did it check as much at the tour b balls?  No but it still checked up 

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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Check around the green is as much technique as it is the ball. 
 

I’ve seen good players check the old Bridgestone e6 balls. Did it check as much at the tour b balls?  No but it still checked up 

Not to mention equipment. I love when guys get frustrated that they can't check their short shots and they're using 3+ year old wedges...

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Appreciate all the replies, but to clarify, my problem was/is too much spin from the ProV1X…approach shots peeling back off the green, green side chips that damn near dead stop, etc.  

Honestly, I am really liking the Bryson ball, the MGS Ball Lab has just torpedoed my confidence that I’ll get consistent yardage…

EDIT:

I’m actually wondering if I should just go Pro V1, which I would do if I didn’t think I’d be giving up some distance versus the X…

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I am here to mention the Z Star XV.  The best golfball I have played in years. 

Durable

Long as long gets

Feel is good (I know it's firmer and on that scale it's palatable)

Spin around greens reminds me of playing pre-USGA grooves.  It feels illegal

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I flip flop between Bridgestone and Titleist. Just picked up last years BXs they were on sale at PGASS for 35 bucks couldn’t resist. But given the same price point usually give me V1X all day (recently swapped back from V1 felt better off the tee and with my struggles there lately I need all the mental help I can get)

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20 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Appreciate all the replies, but to clarify, my problem was/is too much spin from the ProV1X…approach shots peeling back off the green, green side chips that damn near dead stop, etc.  

Honestly, I am really liking the Bryson ball, the MGS Ball Lab has just torpedoed my confidence that I’ll get consistent yardage…

EDIT:

I’m actually wondering if I should just go Pro V1, which I would do if I didn’t think I’d be giving up some distance versus the X…

You sound like the exact profile for the Left Dash. I switched from ProV1X to Left Dash when it came out, for exactly the same reason, and it completely solved the problem.

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2 hours ago, goaliedad30 said:

You sound like the exact profile for the Left Dash. I switched from ProV1X to Left Dash when it came out, for exactly the same reason, and it completely solved the problem.

Haven’t tried it but the thought has crossed my mind.  Is it “clickier” than the regular X?  And are you having a hard time finding them or having to overpay?

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8 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Haven’t tried it but the thought has crossed my mind.  Is it “clickier” than the regular X?  And are you having a hard time finding them or having to overpay?

I guess it's slightly firmer and "clickier". But it works. IMHO, "feel" is overrated. It launches high enough, and has the right spin characteristics for me.

Easy to find these days. Lots of on course shops carrying them (including my club's pro shop), and worst case, Golf Galaxy has them, shipped in 2-3 days.

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On 8/20/2022 at 6:51 AM, bens197 said:

I am here to mention the Z Star XV.  The best golfball I have played in years. 

Durable

Long as long gets

Feel is good (I know it's firmer and on that scale it's palatable)

Spin around greens reminds me of playing pre-USGA grooves.  It feels illegal

Price is great

I totally agree that the XV is an awesome ball.  Great distance but still has good feel on the tee box.  I really like the trajectory and feel with my driving iron or FW as well.

The spin around the greens is very good,  I like the feel of it with my putter too.

The kicker is the price is awesome.  

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2 hours ago, KC Golf said:

I totally agree that the XV is an awesome ball.  Great distance but still has good feel on the tee box.  I really like the trajectory and feel with my driving iron or FW as well.

The spin around the greens is very good,  I like the feel of it with my putter too.

The kicker is the price is awesome.  

I'd stopped a few with my 60 out of the rough and that was the selling point.  I couldn't believe how well it'd grab on pitches even when I wasn't in the fairway.  It kinda feels like cheating.

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On 8/23/2022 at 9:01 AM, bens197 said:

I'd stopped a few with my 60 out of the rough and that was the selling point.  I couldn't believe how well it'd grab on pitches even when I wasn't in the fairway.  It kinda feels like cheating.

ya I am impressed with the XV this year. Its like left dash but with greenside spin.

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Now with this new Ball Lab, maybe I should give Chrome Soft X LS a look… 🤪

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2 hours ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

ya I am impressed with the XV this year. Its like left dash but with greenside spin.

I like that

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