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I'm a single digit handicap and wondering if anyone has had a good experience with Arccos. Is the info/data useful for improving your game (accurate distances, tendencies, etc.)?

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7 minutes ago, bsmokgolf said:

I'm a single digit handicap and wondering if anyone has had a good experience with Arccos. Is the info/data useful for improving your game (accurate distances, tendencies, etc.)?

This would be a good place to start:  

 

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19 minutes ago, cnosil said:

This would be a good place to start:  

 

Awesome, thank you!

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Send me your address and I’ll send you a full set of sensors. I have an extra set that I don’t have any use for. Pretty much new. 

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I have never used the Arccos system, but have done some research trying to decide if it's a good product. I have found some positive and negative reviews/comments by reading forums and searching the internet. Here is a couple below. I would suggest doing your own search, but I decided to not purchase the product.

 

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Completely Inaccurate and a Waste of Money8 months ago
I was given the Arccos Caddie Smart Sensors as a gift. I was excited to have a system that could track not only my scores for handicap purposes, but also provide actual club performance. Then reality hit. The sensors are not capable of tracking every shot automatically as advertised. You are instructed to download the Arccos app onto your cell phone, insert the sensors into the grip on each club and pair the sensors to the app on your phone. Before your first tees shot start the app which will find the course you’re playing and place your cell phone in your lead pocket (if you’re right-handed, place the phone in your front left pocket). Sounds good. No matter what position I placed the phone in my pocket (microphone up, down, facing forward, backward) or which pocket I ...
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I received the sensor pack free of charge as art of the Ping promotion. With the price being right 😉 figured there was no downside. First thing I noticed, the sand shots recording are 50/50 at best. Since the sensor/phone depends on sound, the lack of an audible click in the sand seems to be a common problem resulting in the need for manual edit. The second thing I noticed is that after 7 rounds I used my Lob wedge 1 time. I thought i carried it for tall lip bunkers, but it turns out I just open up the SW. So now I rock a chipper, cause the app told me I wasn't all that consistent greenside with 7I-SW. it's changed the way I played the last 6 rounds for sure. Still getting used to it on fast greens, but it's a life saver when short sided. I replaced my old phone app with the arccos app, so the $99 wasn't a big issue. I wish they fixed the SW issue, but other than that this thing delivers on all promises. Rob W · Reviewed on arccosgolf.com
 
 

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I had them on my last set of Cobra F9 Speedback Irons. I had the same qualms with playing with my phone in my pocket (or link), shots out of the rough not being picked up, and it being completely useless for putting. It felt like a lot of fidgeting with your phone during a round that just enjoying golf. But those are annoyances that lots of people get over, not a deal breaker by any means. 

One thing that I think people don't mention though is that you have to do a lot of manipulation to the data for it to be relevant. It basically takes an average of your shots to suggest what you should hit. Mine was always thrown off from hitting non-stock shots. Sometimes I hit a full cut gap wedge 120, sometimes I hit a full knockdown 125, sometimes I hit a 3/4 knockdown 110. There is no way that Arccos can tell the difference between those shots as it just registers the average of those 3 shots to say you hit your gap wedge 118. And that's not completely inaccurate, but I think that most people who are single digit handicap already know those distances and can factor in wind/pin position, green firmness for rollout, etc to determine which club you need to hit.

Also if you ever use a mid iron to punch out from trees or something like they then it averages the 40 yard punch into your 175 yard normal 7 iron shot and you have to go back and delete.

I just felt like the cost of it and the amount of time I spent changing things on my phone mid-round were not really worth the information it was providing me. 

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It helped me shave off about 5 strokes last year. It keeps it objective and lets you know where the spend your practice time 

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I have 159 rounds using Arccos.  Using it with just a phone in my pocket was frustrating.  After I started using the Arccos Link, it became a much more positive experience. As others said check the Arccos group in the forum.  

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I used them for a full season last year. 
The biggest benefits are knowing what your yardages are and tracking your shots. The new app makes recommendations based on your shots and suggestions on what to work at. 
For the negatives, you did have to manipulate the data at the end but it really wasn’t that big of a deal. Also for the shot distances, you can go in after and exclude any shots where you hit half shots or miss-hits so they don’t get included in your average and club recommendations. I think after a while the information is redundant though. You eventually should learn or figure out where you are missing, what your yardages are and what you need to work on. 
I still think it’s a great system compared to some of the other free apps I’ve used and if you can get the sensors cheap or get second gen ones that don’t require a paid membership they are a great tool. 
I saw someone was going to send you some sensors. I think you should give them a try. 
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I have had Arccos for a few years. Mine has worked very well. It does occasionally lose where it is for some reason necessitating revising the data for a hole or two. If I checked the info on my phone more regularly, I would probably catch it sooner. I don't find it a "turn on and forget it" experience yet but it is getting better. I also keep each club used on my scorecard to double-check when I'm done if there has been a problem.

I have a Link and agree that using it greatly improves the experience as having a phone in my pocket, while not a deal breaker, is less that ideal.

I also use my Apple watch and find the distance on it is very handy.

As a company, they have been very responsive in sending me new sensors when a couple have died inside the 2 year warranty. They also promptly sent me a new clip for my Link when I accidentally hooked the Link with a sweater while pulling it off and snapped it.

I find the data very useful for gapping and club selection (not for tournament play). I can't really point to it as having shaved strokes off but I like the data.

I'm near the end of my 2 year warranty period and will buy a new set of sensors when these start to go bad. I do recommend it to friends.

Hope that helps.

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HI,

Used Arccos since inception. And added Link when it was introduced.

I have to edit a lot of putts. I putt from off greens a lot. Plus my putts are slow and even thru stroke so sound/stroke often does not get picked up.

I also tend to sweep my fairway shots which leads to missed shots. Therefore Arccos is telling me to hit down on the ball. Step one in improving game.

Notwithstanding that I chip a lot with my 8 or 9 irons, I find that my yardages are accurate. I do have a gapping problem at 5/6 that has resisted being fixed. Could be age related.

Arccos system will show more benefit if you play a lot of different courses. Better shot planning.

Link system allows me to leave phone in cradle on cart. Easier to edit  shot on the fly. I have lost Link on course a few times and beenable to drive back to spot and find it by walking so spot identified in locate my Link app. Link has been run over by cart when I lost it once but still works even with a cracked shell.

Basically same cost as quality rangefinder but lot more benefits.

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I tried Arches several years ago, but found it totally useless due to a disappointingly high number of shots missed by the sensors.

Sorry -- Arccos.   Otto Korrect had his own idea about the spelling.

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I can't say enough about Arccos.  I've had my sensors for 2 season.  The amount of data provided is incredible.  The app has recently been updated and it focused heavily on putting.  Arccos is in this for the long haul as evidenced by the amount of OEMs putting them in grips.  The more data collect, the better the app becomes.

Arccos has helped me tremendously.  I recommend to all my friends/playing partners.

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5 hours ago, jkimbrell0 said:

One thing that I think people don't mention though is that you have to do a lot of manipulation to the data for it to be relevant.

THIS!!!!  IN SPADES!!!!

I tried it for 4 months, and it was a COMPLETE waste of time.  I hit a driver into a 30 mph wind and it only goes 180 yds, and that affects your distance calculation.  Hit a driver 310 yds downwind, and it affects your distance calculation.  I have a 7-iron on uphill lie (added loft) to elevated green, and it gets to center of green at 125: I'm happy, but Arccos says my average for 7-iron drops.  Yes, I understand that I can eliminate these "outliers", and adjust the numbers, but that eliminates the whole point of using their system, TO AUTOMATICALLY COLLECT THE DATA!!!

I need to know what the distance each club is, and Arccos's number are completely unreliable!  I had do many "oultliers" that I could not trust the their numbers.  I know my numbers from time on driving ranges and simulators. When I have a shot, I need to factor yardage, lie, wind, and elevation, and Arccos gives bad info on one of them, and is useless on the others.  

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I have them and am about 7 rounds in.  It takes a bit getting used to.  The putting isn’t the greatest and I need to check that it registered all the putts after each hole (this is common across all who have it).  
 

if others who have Arccos have played the course before you that day and pinned the flag then it is very accurate.  If they haven’t then you still need to use your rangefinder.  
 

it does provide strokes gained by everything from driving to putting and the data is great to look at and assess.  My handicap has dropped 3 strokes since I started using it, but I don’t think it is just because of it.  I think it is more because I am playing better.  The data tells you what you need to improve on…you likely know that already, but it really does drill down.  For example, it might say you need to improve your putting from 10ft out.

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I may be in the minority, but my Arrcos was disappointing. I had the belt clip add-on that was supposed to make it more accurate and easier/more seamless to use, but it continued to miss shots. I inevitably gave up and went to taking notes after each hole.  I hope I truly am in the minority.

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I love using the ARCCOS system and am considering purchasing the Link so I don’t carry my phone. I like the data it gives me - yardages on clubs, tracking my score, etc. I know it misses a stroke occasionally, but that’s pretty easy to fix. I guess in reference to club/iron range I would say I trust the Arccos as much as any launch monitor. Just my 2 bits. 

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On 5/1/2022 at 7:07 PM, bsmokgolf said:

I'm a single digit handicap and wondering if anyone has had a good experience with Arccos. Is the info/data useful for improving your game (accurate distances, tendencies, etc.)?

Before you commit to ARRCOS you might want to compare the pros and cons to Shotscope which is a one time purchase vs. annual subscription. Definitely some differences - check out the Shotscope user group. 

 

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16 hours ago, Shinnman said:

The data tells you what you need to improve on…you likely know that already, but it really does drill down.  For example, it might say you need to improve your putting from 10ft out.

The system pointing out specific things to practice was definitely my favorite part of Arccos. That is one place that these did really show me something very specific that I'm not necessarily thinking about.

I agree that, in most cases, good golfers know what their weaknesses are and can mostly caddy for themselves without needing the Arccos. It just depends on if you want that extra bit and don't mind the phone fiddling during round. 

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