DeBartola_B Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I am sure this has been discussed on here before but I couldn't find it in the last couple of pages... Anyways I am debating back and forth on carrying a hybrid or a driving iron in my bag but just cant decide. I am curious what you guys are carrying and what decisions were made to carry it. For me I have found hybrids are easier to hit with a smaller miss but the driving iron has more distance and potentially more useful off the tee. For now most of my bag is all about mitigating risk to score better, but its also fun to swing hard and hit it far. Curious what you guys are carrying. Quote Driver - Cobra LTDx LS 9* Silver Rouge 110 msi 70 X 3W -Titleist TSR2 15* TENSEI 1K Black 75 5W - Cobra LTDx 18.5* TENSEI 1K Black 75 Irons - 4-PW Cobra LTDx Nippon Tour 120 X-Stiff Wedges - 52*, 56*, 60* Cobra KING Putter - Toulon Palm Springs Ball - Taylormade TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 The driving iron probably has more total distance because you aren’t launching it in a good window so it’s more of a line drive shot that rolls out a long way where with the hybrid most of your distance is coming from carry yards. Hybrid is going to be more forgiving, going to typically launch more and probably spin more than the DI. Like any spot in the bag the club should be what gives you the distance or shot you are looking for. Or whatever makes you happy playing golf with a certain type of club. I haven’t had a DI in the bag I’m 4 years after I stopped playing to numbers off the tee, hybrid is more versatile Kansas King, GaDawg, revkev and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I’ve gone back an worth and now have two hybrids. Tbh, you can have both and just swap them out depending on conditions, course or if you want to play something different. There was I time I benched my driver and only played a DI from the tee. Granted that was the fall and a bad idea due to wet conditions. DeBartola_B 1 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Since you asked I go with little fairway woods because that's what I was fit for - they are extremely forgiving and give me the yardages that I need. But that's me, it may not be you although I do see any number of 7 woods on tour any more. I can guarantee that you will get all sorts of answers extolling one over the other before this thread is done. None of those answers will come from a person who knows your game or the course that you play (which is why Rickybobby's answer was a very good one) If where you play tends to be fast and firm and you are looking for a club to hit off the tee a couple of times a round - the driving iron could be the answer. Generally speaking carry is more important though in which case you should lean hybrid and not be afraid to try a 7 wood for kicks. Do you have access to a launch monitor? Also the really obvious answer is to go for a top end of the bag fitting (but that costs money and isn't always available and may not be as much fun) GaDawg, RickyBobby_PR and Tyler86 3 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBartola_B Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, revkev said: Since you asked I go with little fairway woods because that's what I was fit for - they are extremely forgiving and give me the yardages that I need. But that's me, it may not be you although I do see any number of 7 woods on tour any more. I can guarantee that you will get all sorts of answers extolling one over the other before this thread is done. None of those answers will come from a person who knows your game or the course that you play (which is why Rickybobby's answer was a very good one) If where you play tends to be fast and firm and you are looking for a club to hit off the tee a couple of times a round - the driving iron could be the answer. Generally speaking carry is more important though in which case you should lean hybrid and not be afraid to try a 7 wood for kicks. Do you have access to a launch monitor? Also the really obvious answer is to go for a top end of the bag fitting (but that costs money and isn't always available and may not be as much fun) Yeah I totally get your answer, when it comes to club fitting a hybrid/driving iron is so far down my list of priority in terms of cost and need. I probably just need to bite the bullet and buy one and play a few twilight rounds and hit them both at the same time to see what I like. I was really just curious what factors go into everyones decision strategy wise. The 5 & 7 wood is interesting, I havent even thought about playing them but they do seem to be making a come back. Quote Driver - Cobra LTDx LS 9* Silver Rouge 110 msi 70 X 3W -Titleist TSR2 15* TENSEI 1K Black 75 5W - Cobra LTDx 18.5* TENSEI 1K Black 75 Irons - 4-PW Cobra LTDx Nippon Tour 120 X-Stiff Wedges - 52*, 56*, 60* Cobra KING Putter - Toulon Palm Springs Ball - Taylormade TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, DeBartola_B said: Yeah I totally get your answer, when it comes to club fitting a hybrid/driving iron is so far down my list of priority in terms of cost and need. I probably just need to bite the bullet and buy one and play a few twilight rounds and hit them both at the same time to see what I like. I was really just curious what factors go into everyones decision strategy wise. The 5 & 7 wood is interesting, I havent even thought about playing them but they do seem to be making a come back. I think that Homa hit an important shot on Sunday with a 7 wood. You could probably pick up hybrid and driving iron used really cheap from a place like Global golf. Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Both is another option. I am considering this myself. An 18° DI and a 14° hybrid, but the hybrid will replace my 3 wood. There are several holes where I would hit 3 wood, but my accuracy with my current one has gone by the wayside, hybrid on the other hand goes a mile (I have a 17° right now), and it is a 98% off the tee club for me. I don’t find myself hitting a 3 wood off the deck, and I wouldn’t do that anyways… hybrid can go off the deck if needed… I would use the Zach Johnson method and shot those longer par 5’s in 3. Driving iron I had in the bag for a while is missed, (712u) it was a stinger machine, and I counted on it a lot for the tight tee shots… now im using my 3 or 4 iron instead, but wish I had a smidge more forgiveness. TR1PTIK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 17 hours ago, Shankster said: Both is another option. I am considering this myself. An 18° DI and a 14° hybrid, but the hybrid will replace my 3 wood. There are several holes where I would hit 3 wood, but my accuracy with my current one has gone by the wayside, hybrid on the other hand goes a mile (I have a 17° right now), and it is a 98% off the tee club for me. I don’t find myself hitting a 3 wood off the deck, and I wouldn’t do that anyways… hybrid can go off the deck if needed… I would use the Zach Johnson method and shot those longer par 5’s in 3. Driving iron I had in the bag for a while is missed, (712u) it was a stinger machine, and I counted on it a lot for the tight tee shots… now im using my 3 or 4 iron instead, but wish I had a smidge more forgiveness. I found myself in a somewhat similar boat. I have my set 3-iron and a Mizuno CLK hybrid, and semi-recently opted to pull my 50* wedge out of the bag to carry both. I struggle with the hybrid sometimes (mostly left/right) and found the 3-iron was consistently straighter even if I didn't launch it particularly well which I liked and it works for the courses I play. Down on the other end I was noticing a slight gapping issue between my PW and GW where they were bunched up a bit. So, after some testing I decided the wedge would come out and to make things a bit more interesting, I cranked the loft on the hybrid down to 17* for another option off the tee. There's a long par 3 at a course I play quite often where a stock 3-iron will get me to a front pin location while the hybrid is perfect for accessing a back pin. I've also employed the 3-iron on a par 5 and have successfully found the green almost every time (think I came up barely short one time when it was soft and wet). If you already own both clubs and can test them on the course, that is what I recommend to find the best solution. Shankster 1 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, TR1PTIK said: I recently found myself in a somewhat similar boat. I have my set 3-iron and a Mizuno CLK hybrid, and semi-recently opted to pull my 50* wedge out of the bag to carry both. I struggle with the hybrid sometimes (mostly left/right) and found the 3-iron was consistently straighter even if I didn't launch it particularly well which I liked and it works for the courses I play. Down on the other end I was noticing a slight gapping issue between my PW and GW where they were bunched up a bit. So, after some testing I decided the wedge would come out and to make things a bit more interesting, I cranked the loft on the hybrid down to 17* for another option off the tee. There's a long par 3 at a course I play quite often where a stock 3-iron will get me to a front pin location while the hybrid is perfect for accessing a back pin. I've also employed the 3-iron on a par 5 and have successfully found the green almost every time (think I came up barely short one time when it was soft and wet). If you already own both clubs and can test them on the course, that is what I recommend to find the best solution. I’m planning on getting the CLK 16°, cranking it down to 13.75 I think it is… so I’ll be requesting a fitting for it since it is a 3 wood replacement for me. The DI slot will be competitive, it needs to be able to stay low, so the high launching models will be left of the rack. TR1PTIK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossfan Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I have an 19 degree hybrid and a 21 degree utility iron. I used to play a a 4 hybrid in the utility spot. There is about a 10/15 yard difference in yardage between the 2. I use both quite a bit off the tee on tighter holes. I’m a little more accurate with the utility but it’s not a big difference. I really like having both. Quote D- Tour Edge EXS 220 4W- Sub 70 949X Hybrid- Sub 70 949X Utility- Sub 70 699 U 21 degree Irons- Sub 70 749 5-PW Wedges- Sub 70 286 50+54, Tour Edge 1 out 58 degree Putter- Cleveland Huntington Beach soft # 11 Ball- Titleist Tour Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Typically the driving iron is shorter and more controlled. If you are finding a hybrid easier to hit with a smaller miss, then your work is done. Hybrid all the way. DeBartola_B 1 Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 16 hours ago, Shankster said: I’m planning on getting the CLK 16°, cranking it down to 13.75 I think it is… so I’ll be requesting a fitting for it since it is a 3 wood replacement for me. The DI slot will be competitive, it needs to be able to stay low, so the high launching models will be left of the rack. Compared to what I'm used to seeing the CLK already launches pretty low at 17*. Getting a 16* & setting it 13.75* would be an absolute bullet. I would love to see those ball flights! Shankster 1 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 My plan is to hit a few DIs on the weekend at a demo day and then get fit for one after narrowing down to three candidates. it will be interesting to see how the DIs compare to my 21 deg TS3 hybrid. I am hoping for a lower trajectory for windy days primarily. Quote TSR 3 9.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff U-510 19 Utility Iron HZDUS Smoke Black 6.0 Stiff 5-PW 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 - 35” / Super Stroke Slim 3.0 Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Loyal MCC Plus 4 Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 11 hours ago, TR1PTIK said: Compared to what I'm used to seeing the CLK already launches pretty low at 17*. Getting a 16* & setting it 13.75* would be an absolute bullet. I would love to see those ball flights! I’m a high ball flight guy, so I’m guessing it will still launch and remain Highway. When I get it, I will make sure to get some video. Today at the range I hit a legit Tiger 3 wood stinger from his prime. Like the one where he says “Holy S… that was low, did you see that…” it hardly made it over the yardage markers, flew about 230 in the air… probably the best shot of my life. TR1PTIK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFanBoi Scotty Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Strokes gained says you should hit the driver off the tee, so if you're clubbing down you should be looking for more accuracy. Wouldn't the hybrid be the better option in this case? Says the guy who switches in the driving iron instead of a 5W so I can hit it off the tee... DeBartola_B 1 Quote LTDx LS 9*D, HZRDUS Green HC 60g 6.0, 45" 4g + 12g weight King LTD @ 14.5* HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 42.5" King LTD @ 17.5*, HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 40.5"/ 2022 Utility Iron 2 @ 17*, Ventus Black 10x, 39.25" 2022 Utility Iron 4 OL @ 20* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" EQ1-NX OL 5i-PW Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" Cobra SBOL 48*, 52*, 56* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" C-Series DW Armlock Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I demo'ed the Titleist U505 at a Titleist demo day. The fitters were great. I compared the U505 to my 21 deg TS3 Hybrid. Similar trajectory to my Hybrid, even though it was a 20 deg. I would say it seemed to launch a bit higher and landed softer than my Hybrid. The LM numbers were interesting, but not dramatically different other than landing angle and a bit more spin with the U505. So not sure if I should try 18 deg 2 iron or bend the 20 deg to a 19 to lower the launch. The downside is that I seem to like the feel of the Graphite Design Tour AZ upcharge shaft which could also delay delivery if I order it. The DI was effortless and pretty nice from the turf or the tee. So definitely in a dilemma, since it means buying something fairly pricey, but not seeing it for 10 weeks minimum. Still on the fence. May try to find a used one instead. The one added benefit from the demo / fitting was the fitter adjusted the weights on my TSi3 Driver and FW suggested I order a slightly heavier weight for both. It worked like a charm, so I am definitely ordering the new weights. Quote TSR 3 9.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff U-510 19 Utility Iron HZDUS Smoke Black 6.0 Stiff 5-PW 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 - 35” / Super Stroke Slim 3.0 Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Loyal MCC Plus 4 Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugger01 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Zugger01 said: Looking for a driving iron but don't want to pay the price. Found a Callaway Maverik Pro 3 Iron for sale with a graphite hybrid shaft. What do you guys think about it? Should I buy or should I buy an actual driving iron? Any opinions on this. Would love your guy's help. Quote Taylormade Stealth 9 Degree - Project X HZARDUS Black RDX 6.5 70 Gram PXG 0341x 15 Degree - Project X Hazardous Yellow 70 Gram Adams Hybrid DHY - Project X Hzardus Black 6.5 80 Gram Hybrid Shaft Sub70 699 Pro 4 Iron(KBS Tour 120 Stiff) 659 CB/TC/MB 5 - PW (Dynamic Golf X100) Taylormade MG 3 50*, 56*, 60* - True Temper Dynamic Golf Wedge Shaft Taylormade Spider Black(No Sightline) - KBS Black Putter Shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah T Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 DI for me: It might be different if I could do anything but hook hybrids off the planet, but my DI is great 250 yard club for me. Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 5/19/2022 at 4:56 PM, KC Golf said: I demo'ed the Titleist U505 at a Titleist demo day. The fitters were great. I compared the U505 to my 21 deg TS3 Hybrid. Similar trajectory to my Hybrid, even though it was a 20 deg. I would say it seemed to launch a bit higher and landed softer than my Hybrid. The LM numbers were interesting, but not dramatically different other than landing angle and a bit more spin with the U505. So not sure if I should try 18 deg 2 iron or bend the 20 deg to a 19 to lower the launch. The downside is that I seem to like the feel of the Graphite Design Tour AZ upcharge shaft which could also delay delivery if I order it. The DI was effortless and pretty nice from the turf or the tee. So definitely in a dilemma, since it means buying something fairly pricey, but not seeing it for 10 weeks minimum. Still on the fence. May try to find a used one instead. The one added benefit from the demo / fitting was the fitter adjusted the weights on my TSi3 Driver and FW suggested I order a slightly heavier weight for both. It worked like a charm, so I am definitely ordering the new weights. So after finding out best case on my $350 plus Titleist U505 with the upcharge GD shaft would take a minimum of 8+ weeks to be delivered to my door, I just couldn’t justify it. I still have to figure out what club to take out to find a spot for my U505 too. I really like my Hybrid, so I am thinking of taking out my 4 iron. So I got a used U510 instead. It may not be as good as the fitted U505, but I think it will show me whether I need a utility iron in my bag or not. Will keep the same loft for now and just replacing the grip with a GP Plus 4. Looking forward to trying it out on the course with various lies, etc. cnosil 1 Quote TSR 3 9.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff U-510 19 Utility Iron HZDUS Smoke Black 6.0 Stiff 5-PW 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 - 35” / Super Stroke Slim 3.0 Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Loyal MCC Plus 4 Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resili22 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) On 5/10/2022 at 9:53 PM, Shankster said: Both is another option. I am considering this myself. An 18° DI and a 14° hybrid, but the hybrid will replace my 3 wood. There are several holes where I would hit 3 wood, but my accuracy with my current one has gone by the wayside, hybrid on the other hand goes a mile (I have a 17° right now), and it is a 98% off the tee club for me. I don’t find myself hitting a 3 wood off the deck, and I wouldn’t do that anyways… hybrid can go off the deck if needed… I would use the Zach Johnson method and shot those longer par 5’s in 3. Driving iron I had in the bag for a while is missed, (712u) it was a stinger machine, and I counted on it a lot for the tight tee shots… now im using my 3 or 4 iron instead, but wish I had a smidge more forgiveness. Totally agree with Shankster. Last summer I decided to ditch my 20º hybrid and replaced it with a used Callaway X Forged Utility of 24º that I tried at my local shop. One month later I bought another X Forged Utility of 21º to use it mainly from the tee in thight par 4s. After several months I realized that I had two great clubs to play from the tee and the fairway. The downsides, playing from the rough and trying to hit high to hold the ball in some greens. Solution: I kept the #3 Utility and bent it to 22º, sold the 24º and bought a 20º fade bias hybrid 7 wood that is literally adressing perfectly the downsides mentioned. I also faced the same problems as Shankster with the 3 wood, and replaced it with a 4 wood that works great from the fairway. Good luck and have a great game. Edited July 20, 2022 by Resili22 Quote Ping G430 MAX 10.5º. GD Tour AD IZ 6S PXG 0311 XF GEN6 #4 & #7. UST Proforce V2 6F4 Maltby KE4 Tour RS 22º. FST Pro 115S Maltby TE+ Forged 25º ~ 45º. FST Pro 115S Maltby TSW Forged 50º, 55º & 60º. FST Pro 115S EVNROLL ER5 CS Hatchback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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