smohan215 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 When adjusting the hosel on a driver to 'draw' what is this actually doing to promote a draw? With adjustable weights it makes sense; moving weight to the heel will promote the toe to release more quickly, closing the face at impact. But the hosel adjustment obviously isn't moving weight around, so it must be (I'm guessing) adjusting the lie angle to be more upright which typically promotes a draw. With irons this makes sense because the loft is effectively pointed closed when the heel is lower than the toe. Also it seems that turf interaction with the heel and not toe would close the face (dragging the heel as the toe continues to release) as the ball is being compressed - which would also close the face. But since driver has much less loft and no turf interaction, it makes it seem that an upright lie would promote a draw nearly as much. I've never used the draw setting before, because I've normally had a natural draw - which has frustratingly evolved into a push-fade with driver this season. My path is still inside-out but I'm failing to close the clubface. This is probably for another post at another time; but my issue (I think) comes from feeling like I need to help the club to have a positive angle of attack, so I'm releasing incorrectly. My hesitation in using the draw setting is that if the above is correct, making the lie angle more upright when my fitted clubs (Ping Fairway adjusted flat, and Mizuno irons flat as standard) are flat and don't have the same miss seems counterproductive. All of this is to ask: if my typical miss with driver is a push-fade, would using the 'draw' bias adjustment on a Cobra hosel be a potential fix? Caveat: clubs I've been fitted for (irons and fairway wood) are all flat, so making my driver more upright seems like I'd be working in the wrong direction (if my assumption about what the hosel adjustment does is actually correct). fixyurdivot 1 Quote Driver: RadSpeed 9° Fairway: G410 14.5° Irons: JPX 921 Forged Wedges: SM7 50°/54°/58° Putter: Redwood Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 It makes the club head more upright which can help promote a draw for some people. BADFanBoi Scotty 1 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, smohan215 said: All of this is to ask: if my typical miss with driver is a push-fade, would using the 'draw' bias adjustment on a Cobra hosel be a potential fix? Caveat: clubs I've been fitted for (irons and fairway wood) are all flat, so making my driver more upright seems like I'd be working in the wrong direction (if my assumption about what the hosel adjustment does is actually correct). I play a consistent fade off the tee which can exaggerate into a slice. The draw setting on my Cobra F9 helps neutralize it. Have never thought about going back in the 1.5 years since I did it and personally prefer this change compared to moving weights. smohan215 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 hour ago, smohan215 said: All of this is to ask: if my typical miss with driver is a push-fade, would using the 'draw' bias adjustment on a Cobra hosel be a potential fix? Caveat: clubs I've been fitted for (irons and fairway wood) are all flat, so making my driver more upright seems like I'd be working in the wrong direction (if my assumption about what the hosel adjustment does is actually correct). It could fix but it could make it worse by creating a bigger difference between face and path The D setting changes the lie angle. It will make it more or less upright depending on + or - D smohan215 and bens197 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hckymeyer Posted May 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2022 That's the beautiful thing about adjustable drivers. In the time it took to write this post you could just adjust the driver to draw and test it out either on course or at the range. Don't like it? In the time it takes to read this reply you could adjust it back and work on the swing issue causing the problem But as others have mentioned the draw setting at the hosel typically just makes the lie angle more upright. bens197, RickyBobby_PR, ChiefMikeOfficer and 7 others 10 Quote Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParFore74x Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I was playing a fade with my old Callaway 3 wood that did not have an adjustable hosel. Bought the Titleist this year and it had the same results in the standard setting. I started to experiment with settings and I think that I found my new comfort zone. Face is a touch closed with the lie set just a little up and SUPRISE!!! Nice little cut that seems much more predictable and has allowed me to feel more comfortable swinging hard. fixyurdivot 1 Quote TSi3 10° w/ Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black 65g TS2 15° 3W w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g 818 H1 21° Hybrid w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70g MP-18 MMC 2 iron w/ KBS Tour C-Taper S 120g JPX 921 HM 5-GW w/ Project X LZ 5.5 115g JB Forged 54° & 58° w/ Project X LZ 6.0 120g EV5.3 Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMikeOfficer Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 6 hours ago, smohan215 said: When adjusting the hosel on a driver to 'draw' what is this actually doing to promote a draw? Cobra doesn't seem to provide as much information on the specific setting, but if it's like other brands, it's probably upright lie (which promotes more left spin). The face angle could change throughout the settings too, but their adapter might maintain the same face angle -- they just don't provide the specifics behind it. Callaway specifically calls out their "Draw" setting as a change in Lie without mentioning face (https://www.callawaygolf.com/optifitinstructions/); TaylorMade doesn't call it a Draw setting, instead just calling it what it is ("Upright"), but they do publish the Lie and Face changes for each setting on their adapter, which includes a face change of +/- 4 degrees (old, but adapter settings should be the same: https://www.taylormadegolf.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-TMaG-Library/en_US/v1639300210181/manuals/2020_tuning_manual.pdf). fixyurdivot 1 Quote Driver: Stealth Plus 8* (adjusted to 8.75*), Mitsubishi Diamana ZF 70 X Flex (New toy incoming!) Fairway: Stealth2 Plus, 15* (adjusted to 14.25*) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 7X Irons: U505 1 Iron (16*), T200 "Utility Build" 3 and 4 irons, all with Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 95 X Flex, T100S 5-9 with Nippon Pro Modus 120 X Flex (2021 MGS Test). These things are monsters. Wedges: SM9 46.10, 54.12, and 58.08, all with custom etchings & KBS Tour Masters-themed shafts, X-flex (CHA Post) Putter: Total headcase and Putter Ho. Down to two main options in the rotation (one mallet, one blade), but have 4-5 by the basement putting green that might make it in the bag at some point this year... Mallet: Mezz XL 36" Orange; Blade: Link.1 w/Accra White shaft & grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitter81 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 It allows manufacturers to ask 100 to 200 more dollars for the driver. I play a fixed driver no adjustment features and its just fine. smohan215, fixyurdivot, silver & black and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fitter81 said: It allows manufacturers to ask 100 to 200 more dollars for the driver. I play a fixed driver no adjustment features and its just fine. Glad you have a driver that works for you. Draw settings like others have noted usually lead to an upright lie. Adjustable hosels in general allow fitters to dial in the exact settings that will work best for your swing. tony@CIC 1 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 10 hours ago, smohan215 said: But since driver has much less loft and no turf interaction... Wait. Who says driver has no turf interaction?? Dammit. I think I may have just had a lightning bolt moment. (Following this thread, as I have a Cobra and my miss is also push-fade. I did set mine to "D", and it's helped SOME, but the shaft in my driver isn't optimized, stop I don't use it currently - in the process of figuring that out. Separate thread.) fixyurdivot and smohan215 2 Quote Driver - PXG 0811 XF - Gen 5, 9 degrees (+1 setting), Oban Devotion TR 65 04 3/5 Wood - Cobra LTDx Max (Blue Colorway) Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitter81 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I think adjustable drivers are a hype and make guys comfortable with bad swing mechanics. Im not plugging any companies on here as I do not get compensation for it,But when I fit guys/gals I use the few brands that are left that offer non adjustable drivers I feel it promotes consistency in the driver swing. PBH3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Fitter81 said: I think adjustable drivers are a hype and make guys comfortable with bad swing mechanics. Im not plugging any companies on here as I do not get compensation for it,But when I fit guys/gals I use the few brands that are left that offer non adjustable drivers I feel it promotes consistency in the driver swing. And you're a fitter, huh? ZacharyHayden, clevebomb, golfinnut and 4 others 5 1 1 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smohan215 Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Samsonite said: Wait. Who says driver has no turf interaction?? Dammit. I have a buddy that swears his straightest drives are when he dropkicks it because it helps to square the face, so there might be something to it! clevebomb and GolfSpy SAM 2 Quote Driver: RadSpeed 9° Fairway: G410 14.5° Irons: JPX 921 Forged Wedges: SM7 50°/54°/58° Putter: Redwood Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Fitter81 said: I think adjustable drivers are a hype and make guys comfortable with bad swing mechanics. Im not plugging any companies on here as I do not get compensation for it,But when I fit guys/gals I use the few brands that are left that offer non adjustable drivers I feel it promotes consistency in the driver swing. Fair to have a preference, but wouldn't an adjustable sleeve allow any fitter to dial in the numbers for each individual? For one there are simply too many different swings and body types that having a fixed Hodel while great for some, certainly can't be the preferred option for fitting? I keep thinking back to txt and the Sim2 while they didn't mind the driver's they severally missed the sliding weight (yes i know not sleeve) compared to Sim because it allowed them to better dial in the club for each customer. As for price there are plenty that offer lower cost drivers with plenty of adjustability. Cobra being in the middle, event the pxg 0211 has adjustable sleeve and it was $250 or $300 USD. RickyBobby_PR, tony@CIC, russtopherb and 1 other 4 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smohan215 Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Fitter81 said: I think adjustable drivers are a hype and make guys comfortable with bad swing mechanics. Im not plugging any companies on here as I do not get compensation for it,But when I fit guys/gals I use the few brands that are left that offer non adjustable drivers I feel it promotes consistency in the driver swing. I've honestly been of the same school of thought until very recently. My thought was always that if I'm putting my driver in a draw setting, I'm reinforcing whatever swing mechanics I'm creating that produce bad shots. Yesterday I read this article about Scottie Scheffler's bag and the two things that stood out to me were about lead tape and bending the lofts on his wedges. I was also looking up the specs on Jack Nicklaus's irons because I have an old set of MacGregors in his spec I took to the range (man are they hard to hit) and saw that he had his 1/2" short and 0° bounce. Tiger has irons and wedges in his spec produced by Taylormade (the irons are in Scottie's bag) and the legend goes that he had Nike create irons that were like the Mizuno irons he played before they signed him. Anyway, all of this is to say: the best players in the world have their clubs adjusted in every imaginable way - so it's almost arrogant for me to think I'm 'too good' to not use these same adjustments. GolfSpy SAM, Kanoito, Bears1 and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: RadSpeed 9° Fairway: G410 14.5° Irons: JPX 921 Forged Wedges: SM7 50°/54°/58° Putter: Redwood Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smohan215 Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 21 hours ago, hckymeyer said: That's the beautiful thing about adjustable drivers. In the time it took to write this post you could just adjust the driver to draw and test it out either on course or at the range. Don't like it? In the time it takes to read this reply you could adjust it back and work on the swing issue causing the problem But as others have mentioned the draw setting at the hosel typically just makes the lie angle more upright. Hahaha well this is just a little too reasonable for my taste! You're totally right of course, it's just weirdly something I never end up doing. I talk myself out of it because I'm thinking "I'm at the range, I can use this time to 'fix' whatever swing mechanic" which is very much giving myself too much credit to actually do that. So of course I get myself where I have a couple rounds booked and no time for a range session more than pre-round warmup. Poor planning on my part. GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote Driver: RadSpeed 9° Fairway: G410 14.5° Irons: JPX 921 Forged Wedges: SM7 50°/54°/58° Putter: Redwood Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf2Much Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Here is a couple of YouTube videos that hopefully can explain driver adjustments and the impact each has. I follow the MobileClubMaker on YouTube. AJ is a wealth of knowledge. smohan215 and tony@CIC 2 Quote Ping G430 Max driver 10.5 degrees with an Alta Quick45 gram senior shaft Callaway Epic 3 wood, Project X Evenflow Green 45 gram senior shaft Callaway GBB Epic Heavenwood, with a Mitsubishi Diamana 50 gram senior shaft Ping G 20.5 degree 7 wood, with a stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Callaway Paradym X irons, 7-AW with Aldila Ascent Blue 50 graphite shafts Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie 2022 MGS Tester: Shot Scope Pro XL+ with H4 2023 MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Its funny because any time I set a club in the draw/upright setting I tend to hit it more right as a RH golfer... I think its just the mental side of thinking I will miss it left Quote In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, jayjay0808 said: Its funny because any time I set a club in the draw/upright setting I tend to hit it more right as a RH golfer... I think its just the mental side of thinking I will miss it left Everyone wants definitive answers on what shaft, head, or setting will fix something and ultimately we all react differently so unless you actually try the setup you will never know. jayjay0808, smohan215, ParFore74x and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, cnosil said: Everyone wants definitive answers on what shaft, head, or setting will fix something and ultimately we all react differently so unless you actually try the setup you will never know. 100% correct! Each player is different and what they see at address affects their delivery. That is why fitting and testing is always the best answer. cnosil, ParFore74x and smohan215 3 Quote In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyShanks415 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I have the same issue as you - path is in-to-out but with an open face so the ball starts right and goes more right. I've had more success tweaking the loft up a degree to close the face instead of using the draw setting on the hosel adapter. smohan215 1 Quote Cobra King LTDx 9*, Mitsubishi Diamana TB 60S Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 15*, Mitsubishi Diamana TB 70S Titleist TS2 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana TB 80S Mizuno Pro Fli-Hi 4i, Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 80 6.0 Srixon ZX5 5-PW, N.S. Pro Modus3 105S Ping Glide 3.0 48* SS, 54* SS, 58* SS; KDS Hi-Rev 2.0 SIK DW | C-Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smohan215 Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 14 hours ago, JimmyShanks415 said: I have the same issue as you - path is in-to-out but with an open face so the ball starts right and goes more right. I've had more success tweaking the loft up a degree to close the face instead of using the draw setting on the hosel adapter. I was thinking about that too, but I was struggling with generating too much spin. The 9° driver head with a stiff shaft is new-ish to me and actually fixed a lot initially. BTW! How do you like the Mizuno Fli-Hi? I've been eyeing those to replace hybrids Quote Driver: RadSpeed 9° Fairway: G410 14.5° Irons: JPX 921 Forged Wedges: SM7 50°/54°/58° Putter: Redwood Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyShanks415 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, smohan215 said: I was thinking about that too, but I was struggling with generating too much spin. The 9° driver head with a stiff shaft is new-ish to me and actually fixed a lot initially. BTW! How do you like the Mizuno Fli-Hi? I've been eyeing those to replace hybrids Really like the Fli-Hi. Not as great from the turf as a hybrid, but love it off the tee - got it specifically for a 215 yard par 3 at my home course, but can also hit low bullets that just run out forever on tighter driving holes. Doesn't seem draw biased the way most hybrids are, so at least when I hook it the ball isn't off the planet left. Only knock is that it doesn't seem like the finish will hold up very long, but not really any different than any other non-chrome finish. Quote Cobra King LTDx 9*, Mitsubishi Diamana TB 60S Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 15*, Mitsubishi Diamana TB 70S Titleist TS2 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana TB 80S Mizuno Pro Fli-Hi 4i, Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 80 6.0 Srixon ZX5 5-PW, N.S. Pro Modus3 105S Ping Glide 3.0 48* SS, 54* SS, 58* SS; KDS Hi-Rev 2.0 SIK DW | C-Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouetvl11 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 To my knowledge from what i've learned lately concerning drivers and adjustable clubs. Callaway or other adjustable hosel with D setting... Draw setting on those hosel will make the club UPRIGHT which means you will generally draw the ball more. Increasing loft on your driver will also close a little bit the club face. Moving weight in the Heel will increase your draw. You need to experiment what work best for you and your game... It can be some weird combo that make no sense but it work for you, or simply it could be standard everywhere. if it's Draw setting with weight in the toe that work for you, then it is, it would make no sense for most people but for you it work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlygrisse Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 You might also play with adding loft, this actually closes the face. try different combos of loft and more upright lie. See what works. Quote Ping G400 Ping G410 3,5,7 JPX 921 Hotmetal Vokey 54, 58M Odyssey #1 black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdieputt13 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) When one adjusts the loft of a driver, with the adjustment on the hosel, you are actually changing two things. One obviously, is the effective loft of the driver and secondly, and it isn't as obvious, is one is either opening or closing the face angle. When you increase the loft of a driver, you actually close the face angle slightly. It's somewhat counterintuitive but it does change the angle. The opposite is true when one decreases the loft, one opens the face angle slightly. Moving adjustable weights on either side of the driver face is a different matter. One can make the driver close or open slightly at impact, given a consistent swing path, by changing the weights at the heel and toe if your driver is so equipped. When doing a fitting, most launch monitors will indicate the swing path, face angle, etc. which is an invaluable tool in any fitting. Yet another reason to do any club fitting with an accurate launch monitor. Edited May 13, 2022 by Birdieputt13 Quote Driver - Taylormade M6; 10.5 Degrees - Diamana BF50R shaft. Fairway Woods - Tour Exotics (3 Wood) CBX119 EvenFlow Project X 5.5R Tour Exotics (4 Wood) XCG7; Fujikura 50R shaft. Hybrids - PING G (19,22 and 26 Degree lofts.) Irons - Mizuno MX300 (7-GW) Wedges - Cleveland RTX4 (54 and 58 degree) Putter - Pyramid Altec Series AZ-11 Ball - Bridgestone 330-RTX or Calloway Tour iz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycleguy55 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) I'm relatively new to playing a 10.5° PXG 0211 driver. Standard lie angle is 58°. Because it's new and there's no PXG fitter anywhere close to where I live I've been going through the adjustments myself. This has been done through a combination of indoor and outdoor range work. After mostly indoor work with a simulator with a launch monitor which gave me launch angles, spin rates etc., I ended up playing the "Small Minus" – This setting decreases the loft by 1° and decreases the lie angle by 0.5°. After some time on the outdoor range and a couple of rounds I realized I was still getting the occasional big miss left. At that point I decided to go to the "Flat Minus" setting which decreases the loft by 1° and decreases the lie angle by 2.5°. This is the same loft as the "small minus" setting but a 2° flatter lie angle. That has helped a lot to take away the left side of the fairway / rough. It's also worth noting that I've added about 6g of lead tape to the sole, taking the swing weight from D1 to D4. The lead tape is also biased slightly towards the toe, helping to stop the club face from closing. All things considered the 0211 PXG is the best driver I've ever had. P.S. I'm 6'2" with long arms (37" sleeve length). Edited May 13, 2022 by cycleguy55 Fred Mitchell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 As one response here has alluded to, many adjustable drivers not only make the lie angles more upright, they also close the face angle when you adjust the adapter to the “draw” setting. Adapters that have “higher” and “lower” loft settings (e.g. TaylorMade and Sub 70 Golf) usually adjust the lie angle and face angle in conjunction with the loft. The higher you adjust the loft, the more upright the lie and more closed the face angle, and the lower you adjust the loft the flatter the lie angle and the more open the face angle. The exception to this is with those adapters with multiple cogs, such as Callaway and Krank Golf. DawgDaddy 1 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmore5 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Have used weights in the past...in fact my Ping G400 has it..though prefer to used natural and let hands/body do the work. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffmark Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 There is an option to change the tip to a left handed tip or right handed what ever is opposite of what hand you golf and then draw setting will flatten it of making it fade biased. Quote Rouge st, Mizuno JPX 919 tour, anser putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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