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37 minutes ago, jlukes said:

I doubt I’ll ever get selected for testing again after saying this, but here it goes

MGS HQ claims they don’t take advertising from the big brands, yet they take advertising from just about anyone else. And now we are seeing those companies be prioritized for forum testing. 
 

Money talks. 
 

Oh well. Sad to see the forum testing succumb to this. 

You can join me in the passed over group for commenting on mods/hq

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

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After reading through all of the posts in this thread, I would like to make a few comments on OEM product availability (be it for testing opportunities or otherwise):  I am a representative (Dealer, Fitter, etc.) for a handful of golf equipment OEMs, from Fujikura Composites and Mitsubishi Chemical, plus several others on the component side of things, to Tour Edge Golf on the equipment side. With each of the companies that I work with, supply chain issues have caused numerous delays in getting required equipment into my, and my customers’, hands. I have waited as long as six-seven months to receive the more popular Fujikura shaft models (can you say “Ventus” and/or “Ventus TR”?) and five months to get certain 2022 Tour Edge Exotics club models for both my inventory and for customer orders.  This has cost me some business for sure, and I am still waiting for select individual clubs to complete one Exotics club order from a good repeat customer, and very loyal Tour Edge Exotics player. Admittedly, this has not been a five month wait, but before I could even offer certain 2022 Exotics models, I was told in the first couple of months of this year not to even offer certain of their 722 Series clubs until early/mid/late May.  In some (a few) cases, it has been a shortage of clubheads, in many others it has been the inability to deliver the clubs with specific shaft options or upgrades.

This whole supply chain fiasco has delayed new product introductions for more than a few of my OEM accounts, and there are certain shaft options that I am unable to offer (or that I am unable to fill at present).

Just thought that I would offer the perspective of a guy who is a “small fish” in the vast ocean of OEM golf club and golf shaft providers …. and don’t even get me started on the subject of golf grip availability!

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4-Wood: Titleist TS2, 16.5*, Miyazaki Kuala Mizu Tour Issue 7S, 42.75" playing length

5/7-Wood: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero set to 20* loft; Tensei Blue 75-S, 41.5" playing length

Hybrids: Exotics EXS Pro (22*), Mitsubishi Tensei Silver 75S

Irons: Exotics EXS220 5-iron and New Level MODB-1 (6-iron through PW), KBS TGI Tour 80 (stiff) shafts

Wedges: New Hogan Equalizer wedges (48* and 56* + Maltby TSW Forged 52-8, all bent 1* weak

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10 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

I'm sure HQ is giving him a huge $$$$ incentive and pension plan 😎 

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34 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Judge.  I order probably $90,000 to $100,00 in equipment a year for our pro shop.  I realize that’s a small amount.  But it keeps me in touch weekly with every OEM.  So I have a pretty good grasp on which ones have inventory issues.   In addition I talk to several of them regularly for MGS duties.   In which case I’m often talking to people in position to expedite product for forum testings—for all the forums.   
 

I can confidently tell you supply chain issues are not the reason forum testing is lacking this year.  

Amen!!!! 

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Fwy:  :callaway-small: Epic Speed 4w, MMT 80X

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105X

Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

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51 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Judge.  I order probably $90,000 to $100,00 in equipment a year for our pro shop.  I realize that’s a small amount.  But it keeps me in touch weekly with every OEM.  So I have a pretty good grasp on which ones have inventory issues.   In addition I talk to several of them regularly for MGS duties.   In which case I’m often talking to people in position to expedite product for forum testings—for all the forums.   
 

I can confidently tell you supply chain issues are not the reason forum testing is lacking this year.  

That last line is a pretty important one! Rob I know you guys are being honest and it sucks that they took some duties away from someone who did them so well, even though I know you’re probably a little less stressed out. You do a dang good job as do the other mods I know we aren’t supposed to be here just to test things but I do feel like with the testing layout changed last year and seeing the interaction drop could potentially be a reason HQ stepped in. I don’t know if I’m just talking out my a$$ with that but I feel as though that may be a reason as to why they did

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1 hour ago, Kanoito said:

I corrected your autocorrect, Rob... you are welcome!

He probably buys stuff he wants to try first. 

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12 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I can confidently tell you supply chain issues are not the reason forum testing is lacking this year.  

Yup - the PGATour Superstore had their equipment racks full, except for (of course) lefty stuff.

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About time they slowed down a bit seems like they come out with something new and way better every month! In the meantime you go into a golf store and there are racks upon racks of the last greatest golf club to ever come down the road. 

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9 minutes ago, RayP said:

About time they slowed down a bit seems like they come out with something new and way better every month! In the meantime you go into a golf store and there are racks upon racks of the last greatest golf club to ever come down the road. 

Just a little bit of an exaggeration. They all have release cycles that are either in the fall or spring. The dates from each company will vary. The brands on two year cycles release different parts of the bag each year ie titleist will be woods and hybrids this year and irons next year. 

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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3 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I almost added in "no, half of that amoutn is not my personal purchases"  🙂

 

LOL...I do wish we had a "Very Lightly Pre Owned" section in our Pro Shop, I could keep it stocked pretty well..ha

You mean you would, let’s be real you’re the club go of all club hoes here maybe @dlow206 is a close contender 

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39 minutes ago, tommc23 said:

You mean you would, let’s be real you’re the club go of all club hoes here maybe @dlow206 is a close contender 

i should probably update my WITB in my signature, because its not accurate lol

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On 6/15/2022 at 11:24 AM, jlukes said:

I doubt I’ll ever get selected for testing again after saying this, but here it goes

MGS HQ claims they don’t take advertising from the big brands, yet they take advertising from just about anyone else. And now we are seeing those companies be prioritized for forum testing. 
 

Money talks. 
 

Oh well. Sad to see the forum testing succumb to this. 

 

Really? Damn, I hope they are taking advertising monies from PXG, cause I really wanna test the new 0311 Gen 5 irons.😄 

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20 hours ago, dlow206 said:

i should probably update my WITB in my signature, because its not accurate lol

It says updated 11/13/2021 which has to be what, 4 full bag rebuilds ago

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I gotta say, kind of hoping those new Edel irons do become a test, and that I’m settled in and can participate.  Very intrigued.

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