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On 6/6/2022 at 12:58 PM, russtopherb said:

Y'know, I thought it was just me but I would have thought we would have started hearing stuff about the Cobra Connect Challenge by now if it was still being held (which after last year, I can see being up in the air). But yeah, usually by now there would have been some stuff from folks like Cleveland, Wilson/Staff, etc. 

I know Wilson Staff is planning to have a “Staff Model” launch from putter through driver in 2023. 

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Driver - Taylormade SLDR TP 10*

3 Wood - Tour Edge CB2 15*
Irons - Wilson Staff V2 4-pw

Wedges - Wilson Staff 54* & 58*
Putter - Scotty Cameron GoLo 3

Ball - Wilson Staff Duo Spin or Soft

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47 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Rev...I posted I think earlier in this thread about how it's grown since I joined just 6 years ago.   In that post I mentioned reading old posts from several years back, which I think dated to the erly days of the forum.

You are correct, I didn't see any testing threads from way back then, but I do seem to recall seing some contests posts where members won prizes for "recriting" or referring members.   It seemed really cool, and I'm sure in the erly days when trying to build the readership it worked really well. 

Anway, just recall enjoying reading some of those posts from the early days.    Alos most notabily the Distinquished Gentelman Thread.   I'm not going to link it, if people want bad enough to see it, they know how to search 🙂 

 

 

That thread could be an entire forum all on it's own.  Miss seeing some of the guys from that thread!

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OGIO Silencer:  Followed by Arccos
:cobra-small:King F9, Atmos TS Blue
:callaway-small:  Mavrik 3w, Evenflow Riptide
:nike-small:Covert 2.0 5W, 3H, Kuro Kage Black
:wilson_staff_small:Wilson D7 Irons 4-GW,  Dynamic Gold AMT
:ping-small:Glide  52, 56 ES
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13 hours ago, revkev said:

I'm glad I'm late into this game as I may have posted something I would not have been proud of.

 

I'm going to speak for myself here and let it be.  I did not come to MGS to be a tester.  I had no idea that forum members might be selected to test things when I came.  In fact I don't think that they were at that time, unless they were handpicked by what would now be termed HQ's.  I came because I had some questions about equipment (particularly the golf ball, spin and it's impact on driver dispersion).  I stayed because I got answers primarily from knowledgeable forum members but also from Tony who around on the forums a lot and Matt Sateranus.  

 

Testing, as we know it, started a year or so after the time that I arrived.  Some testers were selected by mods directly but slowly but surely all testers came to be selected via applications.  That made sense to me.

 

Like the rest of us I've noticed the "shortage" of tests from OEMs including the Cobra Connect.  That last one doesn't surprise me, it had its run but I'm not sure that there's the bang for the buck for Cobra any more at this point.  As for the other OEMs it's their stuff, they can choose whom they want to do their testing for them and when.  Likewise we are HQs stepchild or baby if you will, they may do with their platform as they please.  I visit the forums because I have friends, both virtual and real here.  There are often interesting discussions taking place that I like to be a part of and I do learn about equipment even if we aren't formally testing it - consider the Stack system threads.  

 

As for our mods they do a great job.  They can only work with what they have to work with.  When I have a significant complaint I go to them on a PM and they've always been open and honest with me.  So thanks to all of them for their hard work and advocacy.

 

Thanks to all of my fellow forum members as well - even when we disagree on a matter you make this place a fun place to come, blow off steam and talk about golf.  

Great post Rev. And same here…tests are the cherry on top.  I’m a better golfer in no small measure from what I’ve learned and tried through my interactions here.  How many forums can say that?

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FW:  :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 65g Stiff

Hybrids:  :callaway-small: Apex Pro 3 & 4H, Mitsubishi MMT 80g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff

Wedges: :vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind bent to 55, 60 M Grind bent to 59, Aerotech Steelfiber i110 Stiff

Putter: :odyssey-small: White Hot OG Double Wide, Stroke Lab shaft

Ball: :titelist-small: Pro V1X

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I suppose it was the right time for me to get fit for new Titleist irons, even if by the time I get them they may drop the name and photos of newer irons.  🙂

 

It has been an honor to be involved in 3 product tests.   Cant wait to see what's coming down the pipe.  🙂

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:cobra-small:  Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R.  Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 

:wilson_staff_small: C300 cast irons 5-PW. Fujikura graphite R 

:cleveland-small:      CBX-2 50/11 

:taylormade-small:   ATV 56/16deg 

:1332069271_TommyArmour:  Impact No.3 Align putter

:Arccos:     Caddie for tracking.     

:titelist-small:            Pro V1X balls

 

Previous forum tests:

2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW.    2020:  :skycaddie: LX5 Watch.    2021:  :1332069271_TommyArmour: Impact #3 Align putter

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On 6/16/2022 at 1:30 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

LOL...I do wish we had a "Very Lightly Pre Owned" section in our Pro Shop, I could keep it stocked pretty well..ha

I thought that was your garage….

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Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.pngPXG 0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.pngPXG 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: Ben Hogan VKTR 3 Hybrid(18*)w/Recoil ES regular shaft

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore (50*/54*/58*) w/DG Spinner wedge shafts 

Putter: 33”   Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip 

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black). 

Ball: Maxfli Tour CG & Titleist Pro V1x.

Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder

 

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12 hours ago, fozcycle said:

I thought that was your garage….

LOL..I hve had it made very clear to me, the fiance doesn't care what or how many I buy, but there is not room fo rmore than 1 set at at time in the condo.   So my office is the auxilary garage.  Boy am I in trouble if I ever leave this job..ha

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:titelist-small: TSi1 Aldila Ascent 40G shaft

:titelist-small: TSi2 18 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

:titelist-small: SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds 

:ping-small: Tyne 4 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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1 hour ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

LOL..I hve had it made very clear to me, the fiance doesn't care what or how many I buy, but there is not room fo rmore than 1 set at at time in the condo.   So my office is the auxilary garage.  Boy am I in trouble if I ever leave this job..ha

Is your fiance's maiden name Cobra, Ping or Titleist?....LOL

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Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.pngPXG 0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.pngPXG 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: Ben Hogan VKTR 3 Hybrid(18*)w/Recoil ES regular shaft

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore (50*/54*/58*) w/DG Spinner wedge shafts 

Putter: 33”   Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip 

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black). 

Ball: Maxfli Tour CG & Titleist Pro V1x.

Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder

 

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On 6/13/2022 at 11:30 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I still blame the intial Golfspy_Rob on Enrique.   He felt we needed to follow the example set by the the previous mods and use actual names, but thanks to the "outcry" from the forum, I held firm to my desire and went with CG2!  

And me knowing you from way back on here and WRX I know what the CG stands for too

Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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On 6/22/2022 at 1:06 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Rev...I posted I think earlier in this thread about how it's grown since I joined just 6 years ago.   In that post I mentioned reading old posts from several years back, which I think dated to the erly days of the forum.

You are correct, I didn't see any testing threads from way back then, but I do seem to recall seing some contests posts where members won prizes for "recriting" or referring members.   It seemed really cool, and I'm sure in the erly days when trying to build the readership it worked really well. 

Anway, just recall enjoying reading some of those posts from the early days.    Alos most notabily the Distinquished Gentelman Thread.   I'm not going to link it, if people want bad enough to see it, they know how to search 🙂 

 

 

ROTFLMAO---- The Distinguished Gentlemans Thread MGS Hall Of Fame--- Newbies well worth the time to look up and read.

When I first came on here in reality I was just learning how to work a computer social media wise. I could run like truck diagnostic programs etc. One thing I liked on here was the fact there were good folks I could talk golf with. In the area I live in a lot of people play golf but know nothing about the game. In the days past folks used to hang around the game room before or after the round enjoy a beverage and talk golf and other things. Now days no one around here does that. Another thing about MGS was in the beginning I was the only one here that played vintage equipment and the good folks here put up with me. That last leads up to the last paragraph.

I never put in for a lot of tests because a lot of the new stuff does not appeal to me. I would rather another member test and use the equipment than me test and not maybe be objective. Now when I test I do go all out. I did do the Renegar wedge test because I am a wedge Ho and love to experiment with wedges of all brands and eras. I worked with Rob on that one because I had to do some mods for me to hit including weighting up and some lie adjustments. But I did do detailed notes on what and why I did what I did. I did wring them out to the max and today a friend of mine is still playing them because I gave them to him

The Precision Pro I put in for that because my ancient Bushnell was dying and frankly a heavy bulky PITA to use. I still use the Precision Pro to this day still dependable and has never given me any trouble and it holds its own still with anything. I do not need the slope thing because with my uncanny math and trig skills I can figure out slope pretty well

The Motocaddy for myself I have a mixed bag on. I had applied to test it and everyone at the time knew my physical status. Motocaddy and the Staff here thought an outside the box test for me to rehab was a good idea. I am grateful for that. It did get me out on the range and walking some plus I could take my creature comforts with me to the range. I did put it through the ringer some and had a lot of fun with it and yes even managed to turn it over one time. But I still felt the test was incomplete without some actual course time. I could manage about 3 holes and that was it. I tried a vintage Hickory event with it on a Par 3 course and I had permission to use it because of my status. LOL it drew some attention kinda a mix with the modern cart bag they gave us with some genuine 75 to 100 year old Hickory clubs in it. I gave out after 9 holes. Not the Motocaddy but me. Yes it helped my back rehab but we did not know at the time my right knee was giving out. I talked to Rob on this and turned it over to Tom The Golf Nut to finish the test.

Now with all of that being said I still read and absorb the information on new stuff because my mind works like that always open and absorbing fresh information. I may not comment per say but read

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Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

The Motocaddy testing continues. My concern was the Motocaddy would not do well on the hills on my course. That concern has been put to rest. My next concern is that I make it up the hills. First round I made it 7 holes. But it was 94 degrees. The second round scheduled it rained. Then I was traveling for work a bit. This coming weekend should be a good test. I have 4 days off. Johnny is charged and ready. The belt clip is fixed and I'm ready. I've been hitting up the elliptical to build up stamina. 

Now back on topic.

This forum has been great for me. It was never about the testing but more the camaraderie and the interest we all have in common which is golf. It doesn’t matter if you use current equipment or vintage equipment like Stu. The game is the same. Testing is a bonus and should be treated as such. Be grateful for any opportunity that pops up, but don't always expect there to be one. 

This site had guided me in several purchases. If it wasn't for the honest and detailed reviews by both MGS and Forum testers I would still be buying off the rack stuff that was not right for me. Just because I did not know better. 

OEM's have a long list of people wanting to test and write reviews on equipment. You basically have to get a request in early and get on a waiting list. Then they only have a certain budget or allotment of equipment to give out. Then they look at exposure. Where will they get most readers. Who is taking their advertisement money and reviewing. Guess who gets priority! It is whatit is. It's business.

So you named it "Johnny" Like it as in "Heeere Comes Johnny" I always called it R2 D2

From what I observed the test on the Sub 70 irons worked well for you because you hit them well and they are good looking irons. I will admit if I changed my ways those would be among the ones I would consider. Your research on the driver seems to pay off for you too. That thing is a cannon in your hands.

I can remember a few years back I was selected to help write the testing templates. We split up into teams and I worked with Golf Spy Shawn and the whole process was fun. There were a lot of good ideas submitted and I learned a lot.

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Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW M-85 Macgregor 48* S-400 Sensicore --- SW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- LW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Original Reuter Bulls Eye Standard---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, BIG STU said:

So you named it "Johnny" Like it as in "Heeere Comes Johnny" I always called it R2 D2

From what I observed the test on the Sub 70 irons worked well for you because you hit them well and they are good looking irons. I will admit if I changed my ways those would be among the ones I would consider. Your research on the driver seems to pay off for you too. That thing is a cannon in your hands.

I can remember a few years back I was selected to help write the testing templates. We split up into teams and I worked with Golf Spy Shawn and the whole process was fun. There were a lot of good ideas submitted and I learned a lot.

Short for Johnny 5 from the movie "Short Circuit" 

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I think @sirchunksalot named his push cart the same thing. 

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:taylormade-small: 3 Wood, SLDR  HL 17*  R Flex

:taylormade-small: 5 Wood, SLDR 19* R Flex

:cobra-small: 7 Wood, F6 22.5* R Flex

:Sub70: 939x 5 hybrid

:Sub70: Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (6 - AW)

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6 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Short for Johnny 5 from the movie "Short Circuit" 

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I think @sirchunksalot named his push cart the same thing. 

You would be correct! My wife is a huge fan of Short Circuit and she had it named immediately. 

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I really hope the reviews aren't going to be left to "wither on the vine" by HQ. Now half way through the year and 1 fairway review, 1 putter review and 1 wedge review. 

I know there has been an "explanation" given, but it really is a massive drop off compared to all the time I've been on the forum.

I have real concerns that the entire forum might meet the same fate if HQ continues to have little interest in it.

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:cobra-small: F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0

:titelist-small: TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0
:mizuno-small:  MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5
:cleveland-small: Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5
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On 6/23/2022 at 12:37 PM, hartrick11 said:

That said, it is completely baffling to see HQ focus only on sponsors after bashing other websites for doing the same thing. That hypocrisy combined with what seems like an antagonistic attitude towards "big OEM" and click-bait social media has been a major turn off for me, and as a result I do not visit the HQ website anymore, unfollowed MGS on all social platforms, and absent the ability to direct future donations to the forum only, will no longer be making an annual donation to MGS.

Totally agree. MGS social media is awful. Unfollowed them and about to mute MPR if he doesn't stop retweeting them. 😉

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3W: :callaway-small: RAZR Fit TourAD something or other
3H, 4H: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES
4-AW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
SW: :cleveland-small: Zipcore Black Satin 54*
LW: :cleveland-small: Zipcore Black Satin 58*
Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab Marxman
Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite
Ball: :taylormade-small: TP5x Pix
Pushcart: BigMax iQ+

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1 hour ago, Peaksy68 said:

I really hope the reviews aren't going to be left to "wither on the vine" by HQ. Now half way through the year and 1 fairway review, 1 putter review and 1 wedge review. 

I know there has been an "explanation" given, but it really is a massive drop off compared to all the time I've been on the forum.

I have real concerns that the entire forum might meet the same fate if HQ continues to have little interest in it.

I will saw I miss when Adam used to come on and answer questions 

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