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I have a bit of a dilemma. 
I’ve been buying last years Bridgestone Tour B XS for the last few months at £28 a dozen but the place I buy them from has run out of last years model. 
I can’t stomach paying £40 a dozen when I’m still so erratic with driver in hand. But I do hit it a reasonable distance. I carry around 260 at the moment and I’d say roughly 60% find fairways and the other can be as far as two fairways away. 
It would be easy to go with a straighter flying distance 2 piece distance ball but the issue I have is that my iron play is strong. So a urethane cover with approach shots has been almost game changing for me at times. 
Which ball do I go for next? I don’t want to pay more than £30 a dozen as I can still lose half a dozen a round if I’m on a real bad one. 
I was considering the Kirkland but worry some reviews state it spins too much which will make driver worse. I also played with the e12 contact for a while but I lost some distance swinging 100+ mph. 
Srixon AD333 is also tempting as it seems to spin well for a 2 piece ball. 
 

Any recommendations are welcome as I’m running out of my Bridgestones. 
 

Thanks in advance

Gary

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Check out the DTC companies like Vice and Snell. If you order in bulk you can get the price down to under $30 a dozen. Also Srixon has their buy 2 get 1 promotion running right now and that gets the price down to about $28 per dozen as well.

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5 minutes ago, DiscipleofPenick said:

Check out the DTC companies like Vice and Snell. If you order in bulk you can get the price down to under $30 a dozen. Also Srixon has their buy 2 get 1 promotion running right now and that gets the price down to about $28 per dozen as well.

Thanks Buddy

Not sure we get the 2for1's here in the UK that you guys get in the US.

I'll definitely give the DTC outfits a proper look.

Thanks again!

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I am similar to you - I still lose too many balls and don't like to pay $4 per ball at the rate I lose them, but I also believe the performance difference is real, especially around the greens. I have mostly played Srixon Z-Stars over the last couple years as they usually have the 2-for-1 a couple times a year (Christmas and Fathers' Day). When I needed more balls last year, I ordered some TP5 and TP5x stamped "practice" (apparently they are the same but failed some QC check) and had good luck with them. There are also "lost ball" sites that can get you a lot of bang for your buck, but you need to understand their grading systems and have realistic expectations about what you are receiving.

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Not sure the price in your part of the world but check out the Maxfli Tour or Tour X. They play as close to the ProV1 (Tour) or ProV1x (Tour X) as any ball you can get. In the USA they are 4 dozen for $104.

Great price and Great ball. (You might find a Dick's Sporting Goods coupon to save another $20).

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6 hours ago, Gaw said:

Thanks Buddy

Not sure we get the 2for1's here in the UK that you guys get in the US.

I'll definitely give the DTC outfits a proper look.

Thanks again!

One thing worth noting is that the Tour BXS is one of the highest-spinning balls on the market. This means it's more likely to go offline than a lower-spinning ball, but it will also give you much more greenside control. I think it could be tough for you to find a good comparison to the BXS, but you might take a look at OnCore's Elixr, which has a current promotion as well, though obviously I don't know about international availability. (Their Vero X1 is noticeably lower-spinning on driver while still maintaining pretty decent greenside performance, but it's more expensive than the Elixr.) The Vice Pro Plus also jumps to mind as a cheaper, spinnier option, though it'll be quite a bit firmer than the BXS, if that matters to you. I've heard good things about the SEED golf balls, but haven't been able to get my hands on any to try them...

Pretty much all of the cheap-er urethane options are still going to be either reasonably more expensive and/or lower spin (Srixon Q-Star Tour, Taylormade Tour Response, Titleist Tour Speed, etc). But like I said, the BXS is one of the spinniest balls out there, unless you go to a Mizuno or Kirkland or something...

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1 hour ago, Larryw said:

Not sure the price in your part of the world but check out the Maxfli Tour or Tour X. They play as close to the ProV1 (Tour) or ProV1x (Tour X) as any ball you can get. In the USA they are 4 dozen for $104.

Great price and Great ball. (You might find a Dick's Sporting Goods coupon to save another $20).

Thanks Larry

Unfortunately you can’t get the Maxfli balls in the UK and Dick’s don’t provide any international shipping. 
appreciate the advice though. 

Gary

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Callaway Rogue Driver 10.5 Stiff

Taylormade Sim2 3 Wood & 5 Wood

Callaway Apex 3 Hybrid

Cobra Baffler 4 Hybrid 

Taylormade Sim2 Max irons 6-PW

Callaway Mack Daddy 48, 54 & 60 wedges

Odyssey Stroke Lab Triple Track 2 Ball Putter

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11 minutes ago, GregGarner said:

One thing worth noting is that the Tour BXS is one of the highest-spinning balls on the market. This means it's more likely to go offline than a lower-spinning ball, but it will also give you much more greenside control. I think it could be tough for you to find a good comparison to the BXS, but you might take a look at OnCore's Elixr, which has a current promotion as well, though obviously I don't know about international availability. (Their Vero X1 is noticeably lower-spinning on driver while still maintaining pretty decent greenside performance, but it's more expensive than the Elixr.) The Vice Pro Plus also jumps to mind as a cheaper, spinnier option, though it'll be quite a bit firmer than the BXS, if that matters to you. I've heard good things about the SEED golf balls, but haven't been able to get my hands on any to try them...

Pretty much all of the cheap-er urethane options are still going to be either reasonably more expensive and/or lower spin (Srixon Q-Star Tour, Taylormade Tour Response, Titleist Tour Speed, etc). But like I said, the BXS is one of the spinniest balls out there, unless you go to a Mizuno or Kirkland or something...

Thanks Gregg

I wasn’t aware it was one of the highest spinning balls available but I know they are awesome with my irons. I can’t remember the last time I failed to hold a green (unless from deep rough or a thin strike). 
Thinking I may have to buy a few sleeves/boxes of different balls and play a round with each. 
Once I get my driver under control I will make the jump to the more expensive balls but for now I need a compromise. It’s nearly there but not quite. 
I play cheaper 2piece balls in winter anyway as our local course doesn’t cut the rough often and it’s easy to lose balls even in the first cut. So I need something for the summer months. 
Thanks again

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Callaway Rogue Driver 10.5 Stiff

Taylormade Sim2 3 Wood & 5 Wood

Callaway Apex 3 Hybrid

Cobra Baffler 4 Hybrid 

Taylormade Sim2 Max irons 6-PW

Callaway Mack Daddy 48, 54 & 60 wedges

Odyssey Stroke Lab Triple Track 2 Ball Putter

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A lot of good suggestions so far.  Ball manufacturers do make mid-premium balls with urethane covers.  Taylormade Makes the Tour Response ball with a urethane cover, Srixon their Q*Star Tour ball has a urethane cover.  Best thing to do is buy a sleeve of as you mentioned and try them out.

 

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I believe MGS had pretty extensive coverage on a noputts given podcast about the urethane being the primary difference maker in ball quality. I really like the Wilson triad. They’re moderately priced. I find a lot of different urethane 3 piece balls to be great. Nothing as good as titleist but completely acceptable for a hack like me

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Try the Wilson Duo or Fifty Fifty Elite especially the yellow urethane cover or start hitting a 3 wood off the tee you may loose a little distance but make up for it with more shots in play.

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Sometimes I can buy Pro V1 rejects for half price.  A mix of imperfect finishes with some less than tolerance rounds, I think.  They don't disclose why.  But I am in San Diego, near Torrey Pines golf course, and west coast home to Titleist. 

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I second the recommendation on the Srixon Q-Star.  ~$34 US.  Probably pretty close to your target price.  

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4 hours ago, MDGolfHacker said:

A lot of good suggestions so far.  Ball manufacturers do make mid-premium balls with urethane covers.  Taylormade Makes the Tour Response ball with a urethane cover, Srixon their Q*Star Tour ball has a urethane cover.  Best thing to do is buy a sleeve of as you mentioned and try them out.

 

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15 hours ago, Gaw said:

I have a bit of a dilemma. 
I’ve been buying last years Bridgestone Tour B XS for the last few months at £28 a dozen but the place I buy them from has run out of last years model. 
I can’t stomach paying £40 a dozen when I’m still so erratic with driver in hand. But I do hit it a reasonable distance. I carry around 260 at the moment and I’d say roughly 60% find fairways and the other can be as far as two fairways away. 
It would be easy to go with a straighter flying distance 2 piece distance ball but the issue I have is that my iron play is strong. So a urethane cover with approach shots has been almost game changing for me at times. 
Which ball do I go for next? I don’t want to pay more than £30 a dozen as I can still lose half a dozen a round if I’m on a real bad one. 
I was considering the Kirkland but worry some reviews state it spins too much which will make driver worse. I also played with the e12 contact for a while but I lost some distance swinging 100+ mph. 
Srixon AD333 is also tempting as it seems to spin well for a 2 piece ball. 
 

Any recommendations are welcome as I’m running out of my Bridgestones. 
 

Thanks in advance

Try the seed SD X1. The best ball I've played and a fraction the price of its top competitors.

 

If you get the on subscription its even cheaper.

 

I've played them all year and wont be going back.

 

https://seedgolf.com/products/seed-sd-x1-the-pro-x1-subscription

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Is there a huge difference between the older BXS golf balls and the newer ones? I hit the older ones well, but haven't invested in the newer ones yet. Does anyone know?  I love the way they feel with my irons and they are long off the tee?

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The Srixon Q star has been awesome! I play in Texas with lots of firm conditions. Q Star handles really well in these conditions. Great amount of spin and distance off the tee. I like it better than Titleists True Feel (tier down of the Pro V1). If your driver swing speed is above 100 mph, I think you should give the Q Star a try.

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I agree with GregGamer, I inherently fight the slice. I have started using the new Elixer and my fades  have reduced drastically. I still get a few slice but it is only going to the right side of the Fairway and not into the other Fairway. Cost $29 here in USA.  I am finding the correct Fairway on a regular basis now.

16 hours ago, Gaw said:

I have a bit of a dilemma. 
I’ve been buying last years Bridgestone Tour B XS for the last few months at £28 a dozen but the place I buy them from has run out of last years model. 
I can’t stomach paying £40 a dozen when I’m still so erratic with driver in hand. But I do hit it a reasonable distance. I carry around 260 at the moment and I’d say roughly 60% find fairways and the other can be as far as two fairways away. 
It would be easy to go with a straighter flying distance 2 piece distance ball but the issue I have is that my iron play is strong. So a urethane cover with approach shots has been almost game changing for me at times. 
Which ball do I go for next? I don’t want to pay more than £30 a dozen as I can still lose half a dozen a round if I’m on a real bad one. 
I was considering the Kirkland but worry some reviews state it spins too much which will make driver worse. I also played with the e12 contact for a while but I lost some distance swinging 100+ mph. 
Srixon AD333 is also tempting as it seems to spin well for a 2 piece ball. 
 

Any recommendations are welcome as I’m running out of my Bridgestones. 
 

Thanks in advance

 

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I’m one of those people that tend to find far more than I lose as I am willing to check the water or rough while I’m waiting for slow players to move out of the way. However, I would recommend you look online at Craigslist or E-Bay or a UK equivalent of those. You may find someone local that sells used premium balls for a third or a quarter of what they cost new.  While looking for a used set of clubs for friends and family to use when they visit, I saw several local people here in Myrtle Beach selling a variety of brands of balls they find, including ProV1s and TP5s and ChromeSofts for $1 per ball.

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