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People want to be entertained, educated or find a connection. These 3 things are what make most social media pages or personalities popular.

People also love free stuff. If you don’t think so look at people you know on the golf forums and look at their Twitter feed. You will find many that have little to no posts of their own and everything will be reposting or replying to giveaways for anything and everything golf related even if they will never use it, they just want to win and get free stuff then show off what they won. This is why the growth occurs around testing opportunities.

The connection part is why many join forums. You can see that in the posts in this thread about liking the people here stay. They want to have someplace to hang out with others that have the same interests. But you have to have something that keeps them there.

This is where the education and entertainment come in. If you can’t do either membership won’t grow.

WRX offers both the best imo. The wealth of knowledge amongst a core membership there offer a tremendous value to the forum. From highly qualified fitters, teachers and others who have been doing club building or learning of the swing that offer their knowledge. This is lacking to an extent on mgs. There are some fitters and teachers on here who if they would start threads or be more involved in questions it might go along way. 
 

The entrainment has to come from the threads themselves. This is from the exchange of conversations within and outside of threads like what did you buy, what equipment are you thinking of, tour events and the fantasy leagues most threads lack ongoing on conversation.

 

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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The paintball forum I mentioned before is also attached to a blog they do hand and hand. It has some things we have but it also has more and a ton of simpler things. The equipment they have actual manufacture sections to go discuss things about each brand and then they have sections about each type of equipment so you can have as broad or as narrow areas as you like. I am attaching pictures so you can see how it’s laid out for an idea of a non-golf forum layout. I joined that in high school and it has changed slightly but not much because it works. I stopped going there for 10 years went back and found what I wanted in seconds because it’s easy to navigate!

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5 hours ago, mynerds said:

Lots of really good points in this thread that I will try not to repeat. Here are some of my thoughts as a relative new-comer to the forum:

The "Most Wanted" series is what introduced me to MGS (having realized that other publications were rating new equipment based on aesthetics and demand which seems asinine to me), and from there I found the forum. I was enticed by the testing opportunities but I mostly was looking for a community where I could write and converse with others who share my interests.

One positive thing about the relationship between the main site and the forum is that it served as a trickle of water for me before trying to drink from the firehouse of knowledge that is the forum's expertise. A personal example: at the beginning of the year, I wanted to buy a new set of clubs. The main site introduced concepts like game improvement vs plays irons, forgiveness vs distance, and the like. If I were to have just based my purchasing decisions based on the main site and the most wanted posts, I would have blindly purchased a PING G425 MAX driver and Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal irons. However, because of the forum I decided to do a fitting before making a purchase. I tried to be as educated as possible even as a high handicapper because of the forum. I ended up trying both the Ping G425 MAX driver and Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal irons during the fitting and they were awful for me. If it wasn't for the forum, I might have bought a driver and iron set that was a bad fit for me and blamed the MGS Most Wanted series for the poor fit.

As an extension of that, one potential minority opinion of mine is that the testing opportunities I'm most interested in aren't of the big OEMs but of the smaller gizmos and gadgets. I'm not as engaged with things like club reviews because they really seem so user specific that even controlling for club speed and handicap seems dubious. The official and unofficial reviews that have helped me make purchasing decisions have been for things like launch monitors, speed training, hitting nets, hitting mats, etc... While individual differences in hitting speed and handicap may yield different benefits, there isn't' a barrier to entry in those products like there are with clubs.

Lastly, the biggest thing I think that the forum could improve upon is usability.

Oh Mylanta, I would deeply love for this to come to fruition. It is so hard to find reviews even when you know what you're looking for, official or otherwise. More broadly, I think the forum would benefit from a reorganization much like @jlukes mentioned. While that may not be the topical structure I would recommend, I think this is a classic example of why User Experience designers are in such high demand right now. A more intuitive structure to find or browse information may not drive initial engagement, but it certainly would help maintain engagement (much in the same way social media breeds addictive ongoing use, for better or for worse).

For driving initial engagement, SEO needs to be a priority if things like the current tests aren't showing up in search results. That's the proverbial "leaving money on the table" if you've got existing manufacturers sponsoring content and even people who are actively looking for that content can't find it.

 

 

This post in particular and many of the others before and after it make very great and valid points.

The review format change in my opinion, like many others was a change for the worse. Hard to find them to track them to read, ask questions, etc. I liked the old format better, it was so much easier to navigate.

Now as far as what differentiates MGS from the "other" golf forums is the people or participants.

They ALL seem more than willing to provide input or answers to questions, not any that I have encountered or interacted with have had "I am better than you" mindset or mentality, as the participants here seem to realize that we all come from various walks of life, at different stages of both age and ability, and yet ALL seem to be more than willing to provide GOOD, relatable input to those asking the questions.

To me personally, this golf forum site is the most relevant for those of us who DON"T play the game for a living.

Testing opportunities would be of an interest, only if I was looking for a change at the time the test may have been announced. As mentioned, some of the other smaller items should not be overlooked, as many of them could help those of us in cold weather climates keep some resemblance of a good swing through the colder months. 

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Hybrid: Titleist 818H2 - Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0

Irons: Mizuno JPX921 Forged - Nippon Modus 120

Wedges: Vokey SM8 54, and 60

Putter: Cameron Phantom  X 5

Ball: Pro V1

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What brought you to the forum? 

Honest reviews of equipment. I read reviews for a year or two before I joined the forum.


What made you stay?

Found some great people to talk about golf with. Still enjoy the equipment reviews (MGS, official testers and unofficial)

If testing is more limited in the future (again hopefully not, but if) how would you suggest we grow the forum?

The current testing opportunities draw to many (I want a freebie) people. This should be about golf, golfers, and their thoughts and opinions on different subjects. You should publish a standard that is more specific. You must be an active member ( define active ) and be involved for X amount of time ( define X ). After X you qualify to apply to test  the smaller items ( balls, putt outs, and similar values ) Upon writing and submitting good reviews and another 6 months you qualify to apply for bigger items to test. I'm all for growing the forum but it needs to be with quality not quantity. 

Would growth on Social Media help? If yes, what accounts should we look at for the Forum?

I'm not a social media fan. 

What do other forums have which we can use or bring over the MGS Forum which will help grow a productive membership? This could be features, contests, activities or anything. 

I have not been on others except to check it out and know that I belong here.

What is the core identity of MGS Forum in your opinion.

For golfers by golfers. Honest reviews and opinions. Golfers that truly care about one another.

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:Sub70: Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (6 - AW)

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Just now, Shankster said:

Love it. 

You missed I like it and I want some more of it

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8 hours ago, Shankster said:

I tried so hard…

... and got so far, but in the end it didn't even matter ...

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Driver:   TBD: Follow here: Driver Shootout! 

Wood:    :cobra-small: King SZ 3 wood 15.5*

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 4 iron or others....

Irons:     :Sub70: Sub70 659 TC Raw 5-Aw w/ KBS Tour 90 Stiff Black PVD

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:     :taylormade-small:/:titleist-small: (currently testing)

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One thing to note here is that “change” can be for the worse, and companies need to know when to reverse course. Maybe the changes with the forum reviews has turned-out to be one that needs to be reversed. If folks can’t find them, they’re not present where we can just click on them and see where they are like they used to be, and almost everyone is saying they don’t bother looking for them, then maybe a reversal is needed. 
Lots of time and effort went into the change, so I can understand the frustration of going back, but thank goodness Coca Cola reversed course, eh?!

 

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hybrids: Cobra King Tec 17* and 21*, both with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105 X

Irons:  Srixon ZX5 4-6, ZX7 7-PW, UST Mamiya Recoil F4, +1”

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

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Just read this whole thread, and like many I found the forums through testing, then stayed as I realized what the community was like and how fun it was to interact and getting lucky enough to join a few for a round last year. I would stay without testing now that I am more into the community.

One thing I am thinking of with the testing threads and the hope to get the traffic back up on those. I know the tests are tagged with all sorts of information, likely to organize the database that was mentioned. Can regular threads be tagged as well which moves to a system when searching them is easier using the tags, and then a reviews section with subsections for each product we have a test with all review threads, both official an unofficial under them for review. This would keep the layer to 2 deep, only having to click on Tests, then the product, to get to all the test for those products. This might work for new users that don't use recent content.

Probably getting a bit too technical, but I think that might accomplish the organizational goal of the Mods with the navigational concerns brought up here.

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The problem is a lot of the design choices for the forum over the past few years have been tailored to the current members with seemingly no thought about how it impacts prospective members or just browsers of the forum ( cough hall of fame sub forum cough)

Snd I have no idea who the testing section changes benefited because now it’s a pain for old, new and prospective members 

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On 6/20/2022 at 10:50 AM, jlukes said:

Fantastic post, but this part caught my eye and I needed to point something out.

On every other golf blog with a forum, when there is a blog post, it almost always ends with a link to a respective forum thread about the club being discussed and it encourages readers to click to continue the discussion in the forum.

This almost never happens on MGS HQ.  It is like HQ acts as if the forum doesn't even exist.

Well you and I can agree on that.  We've talked about it before, seems like HQ has no interest in that, which sucks and blows.

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Not ready for full release... but sneak peak for those who check in on this thread https://forum.mygolfspy.com/staff/

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Driver:   TBD: Follow here: Driver Shootout! 

Wood:    :cobra-small: King SZ 3 wood 15.5*

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 4 iron or others....

Irons:     :Sub70: Sub70 659 TC Raw 5-Aw w/ KBS Tour 90 Stiff Black PVD

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:     :taylormade-small:/:titleist-small: (currently testing)

Other:     :Arccos: 

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I agree with the major thrust of the comments made on this thread.

I remain concerned that HQ needs take more of an interest in what the grass roots MGS members want.  I really hope official testing goes back to where it was.  Not sure a hitting robot even comes to replacing actual member reviews!

I came for the reviews.  Tried the Srixon because MGS liked the Z Star.  It was a great ball and I knew no one up here that used one.  Then I stayed for the testing reviews which were detailed but also fun to read.

Would love to see the NPG be revamped and made more interesting again.  It’s current format is very uninspired!  Bring Miranda back!

 

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Haywood  5-PW iron Signature - Recoil 780 ES F4 Stiff - Bent 2 deg flat

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Haywood   56 - 12 KBS Tour Wedge

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