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I have only one regret from my last fitting.  I was worried I had been losing yards to aging.  I made the mistake of saying that to my fitter.  I didn't notice at the time but all the clubs he gave me during the fitting were stronger lofted.  I love the feel of hitting my PXG irons and they are longer than my previous KZG irons.  The issue is I have lost my stopping spin.  The ball rolls out on all my new irons.   It takes to many options off the table for me.  I can club up for the yardages or move up a tee box.  I can't replicate the control of the ball I had.  This week I pulled out my KZG irons and put them back in my bag.  The results were very telling.  I could attack pins again because the ball just hopped and stopped or spun back a yard or two.  I love the feel of the PXG irons but the roll out takes to many shots into the green out of my bag.  It is hard to notice on the launch monitor that the ball is rolling out 10-15 feet.   I was planning for this purchase to carry me for the next 10 years.  I need the less stiff shaft in the PXG irons but I want to go back to my 4 degree gaps and standard lofts at least up to 7 iron.

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Hybrid: Callaway Maverick 4&5 Hybrids Accra FX 2.0-100H60 M3 pure  

Irons:  PXG Gen 3 0311 P 6-P  Fujikura Pro 75 pure

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Chipper: Cleveland Smart Sole C 46*  Great for just off the greens in the rough 

Putter: Positive Putter's custom P2 (think Edel putter meets Heavy Putter)

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7 hours ago, D Mackey said:

I have only one regret from my last fitting.  I was worried I had been losing yards to aging.  I made the mistake of saying that to my fitter.  I didn't notice at the time but all the clubs he gave me during the fitting were stronger lofted.  I love the feel of hitting my PXG irons and they are longer than my previous KZG irons.  The issue is I have lost my stopping spin.  The ball rolls out on all my new irons.   It takes to many options off the table for me.  I can club up for the yardages or move up a tee box.  I can't replicate the control of the ball I had.  This week I pulled out my KZG irons and put them back in my bag.  The results were very telling.  I could attack pins again because the ball just hopped and stopped or spun back a yard or two.  I love the feel of the PXG irons but the roll out takes to many shots into the green out of my bag.  It is hard to notice on the launch monitor that the ball is rolling out 10-15 feet.   I was planning for this purchase to carry me for the next 10 years.  I need the less stiff shaft in the PXG irons but I want to go back to my 4 degree gaps and standard lofts at least up to 7 iron.

Heard that.

Im telling the dude I want the smallest club that won’t completely destroy a round of I am having an off day.  They will be coming in from Elonville (space) no matter the club, so it is going to come down to consistency and my personal preference.

 

Aftter looking at those Rickie Fowler clubs everything else looks disgusting.  Even the Titleist blade has too much offset.  I hate the look of offset.  Hate it.
 

I have an ancient Kroyden 2 iron that I practice with. It says offset, but it is nothing I can see. The RF blades remind me of it, just gorgeous.  

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19 hours ago, Shankster said:

Callaway: IF they have the TCB I will try them, but I don’t know… something about this brand is a major turn off for me.

is it the way the brand does its marketing that you dislike? or is it just incompatibility performance-wise? same way I can't work with PING stuff...
EDIT: nevermind, just read your response to the question... I also used to know a guy who played a whole PING bag and I hated his guts as well...

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On 6/20/2022 at 12:56 PM, Shankster said:

Also, I have always liked Cobra’s drivers.  So they will be on the list for sure.  I am fairly open on all of the clubs, but I can’t do GI irons.  So irons wise I’m looking at:

Titleist: T100, T100s, CB, MB

Taylormade: CB, MB, and maybe the 770…

PING: i59

Cobra: CB, Tour, MB, maybe 1 length but they might be too chunky…

Mizuno: JPX Tour, 221, and maybe 223

Callaway: IF they have the TCB I will try them, but I don’t know… something about this brand is a major turn off for me.

The Anser and the B.2 are in a heated battle at the moment.

We have close to the same handi-cap and I am certain you will find some excellent irons that fit your eye. I have 2 sets of irons due to being a Golf HO.

1. I have the 2021 Titleist T100s 7 - PW & T200 4 - 6 iron. The T100s are small has you have stated you like and very little offset.

2. I just purchased the 2022 Cobra King Forged Tec Irons 4 - PW with graphite shafts due to some pain I was having in my joints. They are excellent clubs too, but have more offset and the heads are a little larger than the Titleist.

As you stated, the shafts are one of the most important factors.

Good Luck on your fitting!

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35 minutes ago, GaDawg said:

We have close to the same handi-cap and I am certain you will find some excellent irons that fit your eye. I have 2 sets of irons due to being a Golf HO.

1. I have the 2021 Titleist T100s 7 - PW & T200 4 - 6 iron. The T100s are small has you have stated you like and very little offset.

2. I just purchased the 2022 Cobra King Forged Tec Irons 4 - PW with graphite shafts due to some pain I was having in my joints. They are excellent clubs too, but have more offset and the heads are a little larger than the Titleist.

As you stated, the shafts are one of the most important factors.

Good Luck on your fitting!

I might do something stupid and just get a set of the RF irons.  I can’t stop looking at them.

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Alan, just thought I'd mention that the the Rev 33 aka Proto irons are built to certain specs, you can get fit for the RF Forged MB with a ton of different shaft options, the only difference being they aren't CNC milled like the Rev 33s.

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1 hour ago, Berg Ryman said:

Alan, just thought I'd mention that the the Rev 33 aka Proto irons are built to certain specs, you can get fit for the RF Forged MB with a ton of different shaft options, the only difference being they aren't CNC milled like the Rev 33s.

Oh yes my man.  I’ve researched this to the end of the internet, nearly.

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I'm also one who has a strong dislike of offset and big bulky irons. It's why I went with the 0311T irons of the PXG range.

I'd rather play a hybrid than a bulky offsetted longer iron, which is why I only went to a 5 iron with my new bag.

Obviously you won't be going with PXG, but lots of great players club options out there and any decent fitter will be able to get you into a set that meets your eye. Will be interesting to see what you end up with.

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HYBRIDS PXG 0317XF GEN4 (19°), PXG 0317X GEN4 (22°)

IRONS PXG 0311T GEN3 (5 - 9)

WEDGES TAYLORMADE MG3 (45°, 50°, 55° TW Grind),  TAYLORMADE HI-TOE (60°)

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3 hours ago, Shankster said:

I might do something stupid and just get a set of the RF irons.  I can’t stop looking at them.

You do realize that even Ricky can’t hit those, right?

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Btw, I’m digging the 770’s more and more. Might be partly the Ventus red shafts too, not sure. I think the shafts get me more spin, so it’s enough. The extra 10 yds drops a club from the Hogan Icon blades, so the spin almost equals out. As always, everything depends on how well ya strike it.

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2 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said:

Btw, I’m digging the 770’s more and more. Might be partly the Ventus red shafts too, not sure. I think the shafts get me more spin, so it’s enough. The extra 10 yds drops a club from the Hogan Icon blades, so the spin almost equals out. As always, everything depends on how well ya strike it.

Yes, I do have an alternative plan.  Bending the JPX Tours or T100s 2° weak should eliminate most if not all of the offset in the 6-PW, and it will be significantly less in the 3-5 irons.

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13 hours ago, Shankster said:

I might do something stupid and just get a set of the RF irons.  I can’t stop looking at them.

Go for it! Stupid is good, stupid keeps us together...

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Fitting Day:

Woke up feeling like garbage, allergies are killing me right now.  Pretty sore all over, since our bed was moved last week, we are on an air mattress….

 

Hopeful Bag Outcome:

Driver: Something that hits Bombs and finds 50%+ of fairways.

Woods/Hybrid: Something that finds more than 50% fairways and hits Bombs.

DI: Sniper rifle accuracy, and trajectory.

Irons: The most forgiving Workable club I can stand to look at, with the least amount of offset.

Wedges: Something that I have confidence in looking at address.  Nothing higher than a 57° unless they flatten it.

 

Sounds easy enough right?

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1 hour ago, Shankster said:

Fitting Day:

Woke up feeling like garbage, allergies are killing me right now.  Pretty sore all over, since our bed was moved last week, we are on an air mattress….

 

Hopeful Bag Outcome:

Driver: Something that hits Bombs and finds 50%+ of fairways.

Woods/Hybrid: Something that finds more than 50% fairways and hits Bombs.

DI: Sniper rifle accuracy, and trajectory.

Irons: The most forgiving Workable club I can stand to look at, with the least amount of offset.

Wedges: Something that I have confidence in looking at address.  Nothing higher than a 57° unless they flatten it.

 

Sounds easy enough right?

Good luck!!!

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2 minutes ago, Shankster said:
 

Looks like I’m hitting off a mat though, bummer.

Tell them you aren’t hitting off no stinking mat, give me grass!

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Just now, cnosil said:

Tell them you aren’t hitting off no stinking mat, give me grass!

I won’t hit irons off a mat, might have wasted a trip.  Still have 25 minutes till it’s my turn, traffic was a bit lighter than I expected.

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On 6/20/2022 at 6:09 PM, Shankster said:

Haha.  You asked… you’ll get my honest answer.

When I worked at the golf course as a kid, all of the giant A-Holes had Callaway clubs. Put a bad taste in my mouth back then, and I’ve carried that sentiment with me ever since.

Best reason to exclude clubs as I have ever heard... come to think of it... the A-holes at my club growing up had Callaway too... subconscious avoidance perhaps.  🤣

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4 hours ago, Shankster said:

Hopeful Bag Outcome:

Driver: Something that hits Bombs and finds 50%+ of fairways.

Woods/Hybrid: Something that finds more than 50% fairways and hits Bombs.

DI: Sniper rifle accuracy, and trajectory.

Irons: The most forgiving Workable club I can stand to look at, with the least amount of offset.

Wedges: Something that I have confidence in looking at address.  Nothing higher than a 57° unless they flatten it.

 

Sounds easy enough right?

This should be interesting!!!  Thanks for bringing us along Shankster!!

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