Adjustor Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Is it a rules violation or just a breech of etiquette for a golfer to start putting and even hole out before fellow players bodily arrive on the green. A considerably better golfer in our group of double digit handicappers often is on the green in regulation, well before the rest of the group. He often immediately goes to his ball and proceeds to putt before the rest of us have even hit on the green. It is not uncommonly for some of us in the group to not see him finish the hole. He claims to be playing "ready" golf, but this seems to be a stretch of that concept. GaDawg and Ohms 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogginBullfish Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Is it in casual play or competitive play? It is a bit of a stretch on ready golf but if it's a casual game, I don't personally have an issue with it. Could be both a rules violation and a breach of etiquette in a competitive setting. Quote DRIVER PXG 0811XF GEN4 (10.5°) FAIRWAY WOODS PXG 0341XF GEN4 (16°) HYBRIDS PXG 0317XF GEN4 (19°), PXG 0317X GEN4 (22°) IRONS PXG 0311T GEN3 (5 - 9) WEDGES TAYLORMADE MG3 (45°, 50°, 55° TW Grind, 60° TW Grind) PUTTER PXG BATTLE READY ONE & DONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStar Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I'd find it really off-putting if one player was on the green and I was trying to play onto it. Yes, go and have a look at your putt but wait until the whole group are on before you play. GaDawg 1 Quote RADSpeed 9° Matrix Black Tie X-Flex F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue CLK 19° Hybrid Speeder Evo HB S MP54 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 115 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhammer Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I do this all the time when playing with my wife and mother. I'm usually there in 2 or 3, it's usually 4-5 for them, so I will putt close and mark or finish out and then tend the flag for them. Have never done it with a group of friends or people I've been teamed up with. Quote Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjustor Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 Our group of usually 3 foursomes pays quarters for skins and low gross. The golfer finishing out typically collects most skins, yet many of us often don't see his ball fall in the hole. Ohms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Adjustor said: Is it a rules violation or just a breech of etiquette for a golfer to start putting and even hole out before fellow players bodily arrive on the green. A considerably better golfer in our group of double digit handicappers often is on the green in regulation, well before the rest of the group. He often immediately goes to his ball and proceeds to putt before the rest of us have even hit on the green. It is not uncommonly for some of us in the group to not see him finish the hole. He claims to be playing "ready" golf, but this seems to be a stretch of that concept. The answer to your questions is it depends. you ask about the rules of golf. In stroke play there are no rules that specify order of play. General etiquette is that the farthest from the hole plays first. In match play the order of play is dictated and farthest from the hole plays first and if played out if order the opponent can have the player replay the shot. waiting for the farthest player back to hit is also partially for safety as players that are way in front can be distracting and stand a chance of being hit by a ball. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohms Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I think it's bad form- ready golf really implies that you don't worry about who's farthest from the hole for approach shot or who has honors on the tee, but it never involves being in someone else's line of play. The green is in everyone's line of play, so to putt before anyone else is on is a bit rude and certainly dangerous. As for the skins- hopefully you're playing net. If not, insist on it. GaDawg 1 Quote Mostly ITB. SIMMs, P790s...etc Won't you pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohms Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Headhammer said: I do this all the time when playing with my wife and mother. I'm usually there in 2 or 3, it's usually 4-5 for them, so I will putt close and mark or finish out and then tend the flag for them. Have never done it with a group of friends or people I've been teamed up with. I'm always forced to enjoying "caddying" for my wife when we play, so I'm never at the green before she's on THEZIPR23 1 Quote Mostly ITB. SIMMs, P790s...etc Won't you pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin L Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) On 6/23/2022 at 12:45 PM, FrogginBullfish said: Is it in casual play or competitive play? It is a bit of a stretch on ready golf but if it's a casual game, I don't personally have an issue with it. Could be both a rules violation and a breach of etiquette in a competitive setting. In stroke play, what rule do you have in mind that could be breached? There's not one in my copy. In match play, he would of course be playing out of turn and his stroke could be recalled by his opponent as already mentioned. Edited June 27, 2022 by Colin L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 In casual play I do it and have no issues if others do it. It helps pace of play. If someone I was playing with asked me not to do it I would hold off on doing it the rest of the round. SFLOrange and GaDawg 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaDawg Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/23/2022 at 8:19 AM, Adjustor said: Our group of usually 3 foursomes pays quarters for skins and low gross. The golfer finishing out typically collects most skins, yet many of us often don't see his ball fall in the hole. Sounds like the other 11 golfers need to inform him that his scores must be confirmed by someone in his group in order to be paid for skins. Ohms 1 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Stealth Plus - 10.5*, Oban Kiyoshi Purple O4Flex-65 Grams Purred 3 Wood: SIM - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff Hybrid: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 8 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCanadianBogeyman Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I think it depends on how much ahead he is finishing. For example, if I have a partner who is just off the green, and is walking back to the cart to grab his putter, or if he isn't ready to take his shot, I will happily putt to keep pace of play moving. But I'm not walking up to the green when I have playing partners still hitting their approach shots. Or if they are chipping and ready to go in a reasonable amount of time, I'm not trying to hit before them just to finish up the hole first. Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS 9* Woods/Hybrids: Epic Max 3 wood, G425 7 wood, G425 4 hybrid Irons: 921 Hot Metal 5-Pw Wedges: CBX Zipcore 50, 54, CBX full face 60, ChipR Putter: Spider EX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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