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JT Poston put the TSR in his bag for the Deere and went out and won his first event with it. Didn't gain a million strokes driving (kind of did everything well) but that seems like a decent endorsement. 

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Not sure what you would be expecting.    Too much talk or advertising now hinders current driver sales.   Also need to get content for the advertisements since the players just started playin them.  

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This is always the case when a driver is in tour seeding phase. They put it in play, give feedback to the reps who give feedback to HQ and they make tweaks where needed.

it’s not die for release til late summer or early fall. So no reports isn’t a bad thing.

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4 hours ago, oldguy819 said:

Nothing coming from the pros on the new TSR driver. I'm sensing issues. Anyone know anything?

I think you're jumping to conclusions. The pros using the TSR line are paid by Titleist, why would you expect them to say anything at this stage? This their beta testing, so they can make final tweaks if necessary, before rolling product out to everyone. Patience...

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Numbers don’t lie. Tour players like the TSR and it’s performing just fine. 

 

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You love to see it. As a long time Titleist Player, I cannot wait for these clubs to be in fitting carts. According to my golf pro who is Titleist sponsored, this should be before Labor Day.

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I pushed back a fitting I had scheduled to October in hopes these would be available by then.  Believe they've already had two wins with JT Poston and Cam Smith already having put them in the bag.  Not bad...

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I also thought it was interesting that Cam Smith plays his driver at 10*. Seems a bit high for an elite tour player (based on what I see others play) but obviously works for him. As someone who plays a high lofted driver (like...really high) it is always reassuring to see tour players in the double digits for driver loft. 

Also Cameron Young seem to drive the absolute s**t out of the ball with his TSR as well. 

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1 hour ago, vandyland said:

I also thought it was interesting that Cam Smith plays his driver at 10*. Seems a bit high for an elite tour player (based on what I see others play) but obviously works for him. As someone who plays a high lofted driver (like...really high) it is always reassuring to see tour players in the double digits for driver loft. 

Also Cameron Young seem to drive the absolute s**t out of the ball with his TSR as well. 

I read somewhere (probably a WITB article on the web) that the driver is 10* but he adjusts it to 10.75... 

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If someone has a driver less than 5 years old I doubt you would see a difference in how you hit the ball. Will be interesting to hit this driver as a demo to see how it stacks up against my current TS2 driver. I have noticed a few recent winners on tour have the new Titleist driver. Will definitely demo the club soon when it comes out in the fall to the public. 

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3 hours ago, Tiftaaft said:

I read somewhere (probably a WITB article on the web) that the driver is 10* but he adjusts it to 10.75... 

I'm sure he just has a really low driver launch and the 10° gives him the best numbers. Or maybe at the Open he would've been hitting it too far into some greens with a 9°. As far as not hearing I'm pretty sure it's always quiet until release time. Just the fact so many are using it already makes me think it is an improvement over an already incredible TSi line. I think the TSi was better than the SIM 2.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Tiftaaft said:

I read somewhere (probably a WITB article on the web) that the driver is 10* but he adjusts it to 10.75... 

I'm sure he just has a really low driver launch and the 10° gives him the best numbers. Or maybe at the Open he would've been hitting it too far into some greens with a 9°. As far as not hearing I'm pretty sure it's always quiet until release time. Just the fact so many are using it already makes me think it is an improvement over an already incredible TSi line. I think the TSi was better than the SIM 2.

 

 

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7 hours ago, vandyland said:

I also thought it was interesting that Cam Smith plays his driver at 10*. Seems a bit high for an elite tour player (based on what I see others play) but obviously works for him. As someone who plays a high lofted driver (like...really high) it is always reassuring to see tour players in the double digits for driver loft. 

Also Cameron Young seem to drive the absolute s**t out of the ball with his TSR as well. 

It’s about launch windows. There are a bunch of pros playing 10+°

Thats also like saying I’m surprised so and so plays the TSi2 for being such an elite player. The m2, sim/2 max, g400/410/425 have had elite Tory players use the max head including Finau who has some crazy speed when he lets it go. Or Nelly Korda playing TSi1. For all golfers regardless of level/skill getting a driver head and loft that puts them in the right launch window is the first thing that should be done. Then tweak it with shafts and possibly for some with adapter settings. 

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13 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

t’s about launch windows. There are a bunch of pros playing 10+°

Thats also like saying I’m surprised so and so plays the TSi2 for being such an elite player. The m2, sim/2 max, g400/410/425 have had elite Tory players use the max head including Finau who has some crazy speed when he lets it go.

 

I get that. I just was encouraged by the news. It feels like every time I meet up with a high level player they are always playing 7 or 8* drivers. Same with "forgiving" drivers. Everyone has to play what is best for them and while I am not confusing myself with a tour player or even a high level player it gives me more confidence I am in the right loft around 11-12*. 

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2 minutes ago, vandyland said:

 

I get that. I just was encouraged by the news. It feels like every time I meet up with a high level player they are always playing 7 or 8* drivers. Same with "forgiving" drivers. Everyone has to play what is best for them and while I am not confusing myself with a tour player or even a high level player it gives me more confidence I am in the right loft around 11-12*. 

But how many of them were fit? If they were then they are playing a head that puts them in the launch window they need. Also need to account for the ball they play.

Lots of factors but if you look at witb of pga players you will find 10°+ drivers. 
 

What others play should have zero to do with what you or anyone plays or giving confidence you or anyone is in the right driver.

 

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On 7/11/2022 at 11:40 AM, RickyBobby_PR said:

This is always the case when a driver is in tour seeding phase. They put it in play, give feedback to the reps who give feedback to HQ and they make tweaks where needed.

it’s not die for release til late summer or early fall. So no reports isn’t a bad thing.

Given the current worldly supply chain issues, etc, the "seeding" phase doesn't mean anything and the product the tour players are using is what's coming to retail.  Product lines are created years in advance and it's crazy to think that Titleist would be able to change anything with an entire product line in the next few months if the pros didn't like something about it.  The only tweaking the pros are going to do is getting into the right head and getting it spec'd up to their preference (hotmelt, loft, shaft, etc).

Titleist was already working on the next drivers when these got announced.

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2 minutes ago, 03trdblack said:

Given the current worldly supply chain issues, etc, the "seeding" phase doesn't mean anything and the product the tour players are using is what's coming to retail.  Product lines are created years in advance and it's crazy to think that Titleist would be able to change anything with an entire product line in the next few months if the pros didn't like something about it.  The only tweaking the pros are going to do is getting into the right head and getting it spec'd up to their preference (hotmelt, loft, shaft, etc).

Titleist was already working on the next drivers when these got announced.

Agree and anyone that’s been around forums knows that r&d are always working on stuff that’s easily 3-5 years out. Which I’ve been around them since 2013/2014 plus have had the opportunity to talk with two different club companies face to face during that time
 

Nobody is saying that the pros are going to get anything tweaked in the design between now and release but what or that Titleist will make any changes based on the feedback before general release depending on what it is. But if there is something that needs it titleist could delay the releases.

But what titleist is doing is getting the tour feedback to see what it is, what the can use for future designs, etc.

 

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Having seen this line in hand. I am excited for it. I played the TSi line and this is a very good step forward. You will not see anything crazy in terms of performance jumps but it is a solid next step. The shape of the fairways is better, and I think the ball flight is more stable. 

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3 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

But how many of them were fit? If they were then they are playing a head that puts them in the launch window they need. Also need to account for the ball they play.

Not to hiijack this thread but I know @RickyBobby_PRknows what he is talking about but I did want to throw this little monkey wrench in there. I am a big proponent of fitting BUT, the way I have had drivers fit in the past makes me look back at it and think we (me and the fitter) were not on the same page. I may have already gone through this whole story but basically an "optimized" driver for me was a 9* head and boardy shaft. It put up all the right numbers and, after hitting 50 drivers, I was striping it. Get out on the course and all that is gone. Shaft feels terrible, ball flight is very low and I am losing it right. Fight with the driver for 6 months, then go out and buy a used 12* head and pair it with an Aldila Silver Rogue 110. Magically, or not so magically, the ball flight is (obviously) higher, straighter, shaft feels better but my absolute best drive is 20-30 yd short of the old 9*. The fitter would say he did his job because he got me in the optimal setup but I would say I can only consistently play that driver if my swing is firing on all cylinders. I would assume almost any fitter would look at my specs and say driver spin is too high (3000 rpm), launch angle is too high etc. Maybe I didn't express myself enough but I am not trying to hit the ball as far as possible. I want a driver that goes straight and I have found that is a driver that is cut down to 44" and 11-12* of loft with a lower kick point shaft. I have never gotten "fit" into anything close to that but that setup has lead me to gain more strokes driving, shoot lower scores and generally enjoy golf more. 

 

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28 minutes ago, vandyland said:

TLDR - Fitting is great but make sure you are honest with your fitter and yourself about what you need out of a driver, it's not always absolute distance and optimal conditions. 

This is the key thing, communication is key. If you tell a fitter you want to hit the ball as far as possible the fitter is going to put you in a setup that accomplish that. It’s not going to account for on course performance. The spin is typically going to be low and that will be too low for course play. Bad shots are going to be worse as a result and ball flight is going to be impacted by the environment more than with some additional spin. A good fitter when he/she hears that is going to ask questions to dive more into what the golfer wants to accomplish. Everyone wants to hit the ball as far as possible but we want to do it on the course. That means there might be a sacrifice in pure distance for a ball flight that optimizes both carry and total by getting the ball in the right launch window where launch, spin, peak height and descent angle are all optimized. This will also reduce the negative affects of a bad swing and keep the ball more in play.

Also have to remember just because someone is a fitter doesn’t mean they are a good one. Fittings are only as good as the skill of the fitter and the ability for fitter and fittee to communicate throughout the process. Some fitters as mentioned in other threads are going off a playbook or have only learned launch monitor numbers and have no idea about the swing or what the player needs

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On 7/19/2022 at 2:08 PM, vandyland said:

Not to hiijack this thread but I know @RickyBobby_PRknows what he is talking about but I did want to throw this little monkey wrench in there. I am a big proponent of fitting BUT, the way I have had drivers fit in the past makes me look back at it and think we (me and the fitter) were not on the same page. I may have already gone through this whole story but basically an "optimized" driver for me was a 9* head and boardy shaft. It put up all the right numbers and, after hitting 50 drivers, I was striping it. Get out on the course and all that is gone. Shaft feels terrible, ball flight is very low and I am losing it right. Fight with the driver for 6 months, then go out and buy a used 12* head and pair it with an Aldila Silver Rogue 110. Magically, or not so magically, the ball flight is (obviously) higher, straighter, shaft feels better but my absolute best drive is 20-30 yd short of the old 9*. The fitter would say he did his job because he got me in the optimal setup but I would say I can only consistently play that driver if my swing is firing on all cylinders. I would assume almost any fitter would look at my specs and say driver spin is too high (3000 rpm), launch angle is too high etc. Maybe I didn't express myself enough but I am not trying to hit the ball as far as possible. I want a driver that goes straight and I have found that is a driver that is cut down to 44" and 11-12* of loft with a lower kick point shaft. I have never gotten "fit" into anything close to that but that setup has lead me to gain more strokes driving, shoot lower scores and generally enjoy golf more. 

 

TLDR - Fitting is great but make sure you are honest with your fitter and yourself about what you need out of a driver, it's not always absolute distance and optimal conditions. 

Great post and soooooo true!  See it all the time. 

Guys become club engineers, tipping, tweaking, hot melting, etc.  They then go on a road trip and come back and say, "Well, I played with a rental set out there in (XYZ) and couldn't believe how well I played.  How do I get a set of 3 year old off the rack Titleist Driver and irons?

 

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I went to a TT event today. The TSRs are unreal. Didn’t think they would be able to top the TSi but I got 6-7 more mph ball speed out of it. Current gamer is a TSi3 with a motore F3 set to D4. Surprisingly, the TSR2 was a better fit with a GD DI-6 set to A1. Got 157 mph on average with a 270-280 carry.  Best numbers I’ve seen in a long time. High knuckle balls. Biggest thing from the TSi3 is the misses off the TSR2 we’re significantly better. Apparently there is varying face thickness across the TSR2. Highly recommend hitting them. 

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23 minutes ago, djahubes said:

I went to a TT event today. The TSRs are unreal. Didn’t think they would be able to top the TSi but I got 6-7 more mph ball speed out of it. Current gamer is a TSi3 with a motore F3 set to D4. Surprisingly, the TSR2 was a better fit with a GD DI-6 set to A1. Got 157 mph on average with a 270-280 carry.  Best numbers I’ve seen in a long time. High knuckle balls. Biggest thing from the TSi3 is the misses off the TSR2 we’re significantly better. Apparently there is varying face thickness across the TSR2. Highly recommend hitting them. 

That seems to be the general feedback I am seeing from people that have tried them.    Wondering if it will be able to kick the g400 out of my bag. 

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On 7/19/2022 at 11:08 AM, vandyland said:

I am a big proponent of fitting BUT, the way I have had drivers fit in the past makes me look back at it and think we (me and the fitter) were not on the same page. I may have already gone through this whole story but basically an "optimized" driver for me was a 9* head and boardy shaft. It put up all the right numbers and, after hitting 50 drivers, I was striping it. Get out on the course and all that is gone. Shaft feels terrible, ball flight is very low and I am losing it right. Fight with the driver for 6 months, then go out and buy a used 12* head and pair it with an Aldila Silver Rogue 110. Magically, or not so magically, the ball flight is (obviously) higher, straighter, shaft feels better but my absolute best drive is 20-30 yd short of the old 9*. The fitter would say he did his job because he got me in the optimal setup but I would say I can only consistently play that driver if my swing is firing on all cylinders. I would assume almost any fitter would look at my specs and say driver spin is too high (3000 rpm), launch angle is too high etc. Maybe I didn't express myself enough but I am not trying to hit the ball as far as possible. I want a driver that goes straight and I have found that is a driver that is cut down to 44" and 11-12* of loft with a lower kick point shaft. I have never gotten "fit" into anything close to that but that setup has lead me to gain more strokes driving, shoot lower scores and generally enjoy golf more. 

 

TLDR - Fitting is great but make sure you are honest with your fitter and yourself about what you need out of a driver, it's not always absolute distance and optimal conditions. 

 

... Yup, fitting is essential to optimum performance. That said there is a huge difference between standing in one spot, hitting balls that don't count against your score and grooving your swing. I encountered this many years ago hitting the RBZ and the R1 at PGA Show. I liked the RBZ more because of the feel and consistency but it spun a little too much and the R1 was longer with good spin numbers but just not as consistent. TM convinced me I would adjust as I became more familiar with it and sent me the R1 to review. Again, I only get one swing on the course so no chance to adjust like on the range and I hit some great drives with it but also some very poor drives. I played it about 10 times and it was obvious it wasn't a great fit even though it gave me the best numbers on Demo Day. 

... I told TM I could not review the R1 because it wasn't a good fit and the review wouldn't be fair so they sent me the RBZ and it was instantly better. Yes, it produced too much spin and robbed me of some yards but it was very consistent and a fairway finder. In the end, not ideal for me but very playable and a lesson learned. Now on demo days after I dial in a driver/shaft combo I hit a few iron shots in different directions and then go back to the driver and hit it in a different direction than when I grooved it to my swing. While not an exact representation of playing it during a round it is a better example of what one swing will be like using it during a round. 

... I think every player needs to be honest with themselves as well. Are you consistent off the tee? Is driver a strength of your game? If so a fitting may be a better representation of how it will play on the course for you. But if you are an inconsistent driver and it is a weakness in your game, standing in one spot during a fitting and grooving your swing may not be an accurate measure of how it will play and the only real way to find out is an on course demo. I know, not always possible but something to keep in mind. I think this is one of the reasons many golfers chase equipment they think will improve their game because they hit it on a LM or at the range and it performs better than their gamers on the course but once on the course they find it really isn't any different than what they are playing. 

Driver:     :taylormade-small:  Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R
Fairway:  :cobra-small: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:  :ping-small:      430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy 
                  :taylormade-small:  DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r 
Irons:       :titleist-small:         '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:  :taylormade-small: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :cobra-small:  Sport-60 33" 
Ball:           Maxfli     Maxfli Tour

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40 minutes ago, djahubes said:

I went to a TT event today. The TSRs are unreal. Didn’t think they would be able to top the TSi but I got 6-7 more mph ball speed out of it. Current gamer is a TSi3 with a motore F3 set to D4. Surprisingly, the TSR2 was a better fit with a GD DI-6 set to A1. Got 157 mph on average with a 270-280 carry.  Best numbers I’ve seen in a long time. High knuckle balls. Biggest thing from the TSi3 is the misses off the TSR2 we’re significantly better. Apparently there is varying face thickness across the TSR2. Highly recommend hitting them. 

REALLY looking forward to my turn in the fitting bay for these.  Love my TSi3... if what you say is true... TSr may be the only thing capable of knocking it out of my bag.

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25 minutes ago, chisag said:

I think this is one of the reasons many golfers chase equipment they think will improve their game because they hit it on a LM or at the range and it performs better than their gamers on the course but once on the course they find it really isn't any different than what they are playing.

I have seen this first hand time and time again. A guy I play with regularly spent almost $5K at Club Champion on custom everything and he has not improved at all, but he tells himself it's not his new WITB - what was the point then? And many others as well, though I do know one player who replaced his whole bag based on a Callaway demo day and although his scoring has not improved, he consistently hits his driver 20-30 yards further than his old PING driver - it was a night and day difference.

I wonder how many paid fittings actually provide improved scoring? I am sure some do, but I'll bet a lot don't. And most players won't ever admit they didn't get any better as a result of a fitting, just human nature. Again, under the right circumstances a fitting can be extremely worthwhile, but not always as some here want us to believe...

I am going to get fitted at True Spec for a TSR driver, 3W and 3H this Fall to make sure I get the right model and OEM shaft because I am am tired of my 5 year old "woods" - never really liked them. But I seriously doubt it will change my scoring or stats at all.

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7 minutes ago, Middler said:

I have seen this time and time again. I wonder how many paid fittings actually provide improved scoring? I am sure some do, but I'll bet a lot don't. And most players won't ever admit they didn't get any better as a result of a fitting, just human nature. Again, under the right circumstances a fitting can be extremely worthwhile, but not always as some here want us to believe...

I am going to get fitted for a TSR driver, 3W and 3H this Fall to make sure I get the right model and OEM shaft because I am am tired of my 5 year old "woods." But I seriously doubt it will change my scoring or stats at all.

A few years ago when Titleist the TS woods were released, the buzz was all players were finding 5-10 more MPH in ball speed.  Whether that was from the 917 line or another driver we don't know...it's not very scientific and certainly gets the golfers excited and feeding on hype.

I trust new technology but following my most recent fitting, I can't imagine I am leaving 6mph ball speed on the table.

The difference between my 5 year old G400 LST with a HZRDUS Yellow and my current gamer was negligible. I found 2MPH more in ball speed and conceded with this...

I hit bad shots better and got away with a lot more...I wasn't hitting it much further than the PING on perfect center strikes.

The forgivable area for hitting bad shots and still finding the fairway was significantly better with the TSI3.  So I suppose I could find more ball speed on my misses but I have a hard time thinking I would see an extra 8-15 yards by swapping to the TSR line.

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  • Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60  Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5*
  • Srixon Z-Star XV 

Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges…

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/

Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/

 

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2 minutes ago, Middler said:

I am going to get fitted for a TSR driver, 3W and 3H this Fall to make sure I get the right model and OEM shaft because I am am tired of my 5 year old "woods." But I seriously doubt it will change my scoring or stats at all.

 

... I have 5 rounds in with my new AD-IZ and after being the best performing shaft for me in two separate fittings I am very pleased with it. That said, it has not produced any additional yards the feel is extraordinary and it has been very consistent. No feeling of flex point or timing because it matches my swing and tempo perfectly. I have only hit it in my LTDx and will also try it in my Sim2 and Stealth but suspect results will be similar. I am not sure if it has resulted in improved scoring/stats and had I expected more distance I would be disappointed, but it was mostly about feel and consistency so I had no unrealistic expectations. 

Driver:     :taylormade-small:  Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R
Fairway:  :cobra-small: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:  :ping-small:      430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy 
                  :taylormade-small:  DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r 
Irons:       :titleist-small:         '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:  :taylormade-small: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :cobra-small:  Sport-60 33" 
Ball:           Maxfli     Maxfli Tour

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28 minutes ago, chisag said:

... Yup, fitting is essential to optimum performance. That said there is a huge difference between standing in one spot, hitting balls that don't count against your score and grooving your swing. I encountered this many years ago hitting the RBZ and the R1 at PGA Show. I liked the RBZ more because of the feel and consistency but it spun a little too much and the R1 was longer with good spin numbers but just not as consistent. TM convinced me I would adjust as I became more familiar with it and sent me the R1 to review. Again, I only get one swing on the course so no chance to adjust like on the range and I hit some great drives with it but also some very poor drives. I played it about 10 times and it was obvious it wasn't a great fit even though it gave me the best numbers on Demo Day. 

You sold it...a game of misses.

It makes sense when you consider Nelly Korda put a 10* TSI1 in her bag...one of the most efficient swings I've ever seen and she's playing what any of us would agree is a game improvement driver for weekend duffers.

  • Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X
  • TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
  • Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X
  • Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X
  • PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100
  • Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60  Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5*
  • Srixon Z-Star XV 

Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges…

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/

Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/

 

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