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Any Spies gaming Mizuno’s T22 or Cleveland’s latest Zipcore wedges? If so, how do you like them and what were your previous wedges? 

Currently game SM7s at 54/14 and 58/10, they’re almost 4 years old and are beginning to wear out … have always enjoyed Vokeys, but getting a bit cost conscious and the T22s appear to be a great deal, along with no up-charge on my preferred shaft. Also like that Mizuno has a 58/4 … looking to go with high bounce sand wedge and low bounce lob wedge. 

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Driver: :ping-small: G410 SFT 10.5*

3W: :cobra-small:  Speedzone 14.5*

Hybrid: :titelist-small: TS2 19* & 21*

Irons: image.png.ec9b0a77ef708074b5547162186659f4.png  Forged Tec One Length (5i-GW)

Wedges: image.png.3c33ed301e51199de9e62f474f52b6e0.png T22 55* & 59*

Putter: image.png.f53011d6b358811f2c4cdcc166aeeffa.png  002 Mid-Mallet

Ball:  Callaway Chrome Soft LS & :Snell: Prime-X

 

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Have Cleveland Zipcores 50/54/58……..currently gaming Hogan Tk-15 49/53/57 w/Recoils.

Michael Breed said not to play wedges with shafts heavier than your irons. Well my irons have Recoli 64gram and the Zips have a 128 gram steel shaft.   I really like the Zips so I will be changing shafts in the near future.

Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.png0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.png0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: None in bag at the moment

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm).

Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or  ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707,   or Nike Method Core Drone  w/Evnroll Gravity Grip

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). 

Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel

Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder

 

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Can't speak on Mizuno wedges but the Zipcores and Tour Racks tested well in 2020:

Still gaming my Tour Racks, best wedges I've ever played and I'm now a huge Cleveland fanboy

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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12 minutes ago, yungkory said:

Can't speak on Mizuno wedges but the Zipcores and Tour Racks tested well in 2020:

Still gaming my Tour Racks, best wedges I've ever played and I'm now a huge Cleveland fanboy

Ditto for me. The tour racks are amazing

Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low

Driver: :callaway-small:   Epic Max LS :Fuji:Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 

3wHL: :callaway-small: Rogue ST LS 75x  Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink

7w: :callaway-small:Apex UW 21* MMT 80S

DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g

4-AW: th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg  0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched

Wedges     :cleveland-small: Zipcore 

Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue 

 

Ball:  TBD

Shot Tracking: :ShotScope:

Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0

Grip: Lamkin Sonar +  Midsize 

My Reviews:

Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023

Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23)

 :1332069271_TommyArmour:TAIII #2  Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter )

 :cleveland-small: Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here)

th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg  0211  2019 Unofficial Review

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Ditto for me. The tour racks are amazing

28 minutes ago, yungkory said:

Still gaming my Tour Racks, best wedges I've ever played and I'm now a huge Cleveland fanboy

Appreciate it, gents! Seriously. Went back and forth between the two and felt like I couldn't go wrong with either ... eventually went with the T22s mainly for they have a lot more variety in loft and bounce options; placed the order this morning. 

Opted for their 55/13 and 59/5 wedges. 

Driver: :ping-small: G410 SFT 10.5*

3W: :cobra-small:  Speedzone 14.5*

Hybrid: :titelist-small: TS2 19* & 21*

Irons: image.png.ec9b0a77ef708074b5547162186659f4.png  Forged Tec One Length (5i-GW)

Wedges: image.png.3c33ed301e51199de9e62f474f52b6e0.png T22 55* & 59*

Putter: image.png.f53011d6b358811f2c4cdcc166aeeffa.png  002 Mid-Mallet

Ball:  Callaway Chrome Soft LS & :Snell: Prime-X

 

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On 7/28/2022 at 2:50 PM, mikeanthony said:

Any Spies gaming Mizuno’s T22 or Cleveland’s latest Zipcore wedges? If so, how do you like them and what were your previous wedges? 

Currently game SM7s at 54/14 and 58/10, they’re almost 4 years old and are beginning to wear out … have always enjoyed Vokeys, but getting a bit cost conscious and the T22s appear to be a great deal, along with no up-charge on my preferred shaft. Also like that Mizuno has a 58/4 … looking to go with high bounce sand wedge and low bounce lob wedge. 

I had the Mizzy S18's in satin and loved them. Loved them so much, I bought them in blue ion the next season. AND HATED THEM. Should have stuck with the satin... Then went to SM7s and just couldn't hit them. The weight was wrong for me and I couldn't get comfortable with them. Sold them and bought some ZipCores after a fitting at True Spec. I learned my lesson this time and when I needed freshies for this season, I stuck with ZipCore, still in satin. (I did pick up a full-face 60 though and that thing is awesome.)

Driver: :srixon-small: ZX5 LS MkII 9.5* (@ 9.0*) with 46.5" Ventus Blue 6X
3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff

4hy: :titleist-small: TS3 23* with Tensei AV Blue 70 S
4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S
50*, 55* :cleveland-small: RTX 6 Modus3 Tour 125
60* :cleveland-small: RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400
Putter: :callaway-small: Toulon Chicago with a :garsen: Quad Tour or :cleveland-small: HB SOFT Milled 10.5S with UST All-in

Ball: :callaway-small: Chrome Tour (but I might still have some :titleist-small: Left Dashes hanging around)
Bag: :srixon-small: Ltd Edition Tartan, blue/green/yellow

Using :ShotScope: to keep track of my shots

Tested:
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review
:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review
:ShotScope:
 V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review
:OnCore:
 Vero X2 - Official Review

The Stack System - Official Review

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7 minutes ago, GregGarner said:

I had the Mizzy S18's in satin and loved them. Loved them so much, I bought them in blue ion the next season. AND HATED THEM. Should have stuck with the satin... Then went to SM7s and just couldn't hit them. The weight was wrong for me and I couldn't get comfortable with them. Sold them and bought some ZipCores after a fitting at True Spec. I learned my lesson this time and when I needed freshies for this season, I stuck with ZipCore, still in satin. (I did pick up a full-face 60 though and that thing is awesome.)

Ah man! Interesting on the SM7. I would’ve gone with their SM9s, but with my Nippon shaft and grip preferences, they would’ve been $199. Love Vokeys, but have to be cost conscious at the moment. Especially when I’m buying a pair

How different were the SM7s from a feel and weight perspective? 

Mizuno & Cleveland seemed to be the only two wedges I was seriously interested in with no up-charges on the Nippon shaft and MCC Align grip. 

Remember having the Tour Action 588 wedges in h/s, loved them. 

Driver: :ping-small: G410 SFT 10.5*

3W: :cobra-small:  Speedzone 14.5*

Hybrid: :titelist-small: TS2 19* & 21*

Irons: image.png.ec9b0a77ef708074b5547162186659f4.png  Forged Tec One Length (5i-GW)

Wedges: image.png.3c33ed301e51199de9e62f474f52b6e0.png T22 55* & 59*

Putter: image.png.f53011d6b358811f2c4cdcc166aeeffa.png  002 Mid-Mallet

Ball:  Callaway Chrome Soft LS & :Snell: Prime-X

 

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7 hours ago, GregGarner said:

I had the Mizzy S18's in satin and loved them. Loved them so much, I bought them in blue ion the next season. AND HATED THEM. Should have stuck with the satin... Then went to SM7s and just couldn't hit them. The weight was wrong for me and I couldn't get comfortable with them. Sold them and bought some ZipCores after a fitting at True Spec. I learned my lesson this time and when I needed freshies for this season, I stuck with ZipCore, still in satin. (I did pick up a full-face 60 though and that thing is awesome.)

Interesting, I've had the same experience with Vokeys at a couple of Titleist Thursdays. Always feel boardy and heavy, and I can't hit them.

Hopefully whatever succeeds the Tour Racks doesn't change a whole lot because I really like them.

Driver: :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S

3w/5w: :titelist-small: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S

4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

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On 7/29/2022 at 3:53 PM, mikeanthony said:

How different were the SM7s from a feel and weight perspective?

Like @yungkory said, they just felt heavy and boardy. I just couldn't stop hitting them fat. I would practice and practice and feel like I had found a groove with them (pun intended) and then in a shot that mattered, chunk. I took them to my fitter to have him check swingweight, thinking maybe I just needed to counterbalance or something, but they were only a single point heavier on swingweight, same shaft and same length.

On the shots I actually hit solid, they were fine. But I just couldn't figure out how to hit them and how to develop any touch with them 😕

Driver: :srixon-small: ZX5 LS MkII 9.5* (@ 9.0*) with 46.5" Ventus Blue 6X
3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff

4hy: :titleist-small: TS3 23* with Tensei AV Blue 70 S
4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S
50*, 55* :cleveland-small: RTX 6 Modus3 Tour 125
60* :cleveland-small: RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400
Putter: :callaway-small: Toulon Chicago with a :garsen: Quad Tour or :cleveland-small: HB SOFT Milled 10.5S with UST All-in

Ball: :callaway-small: Chrome Tour (but I might still have some :titleist-small: Left Dashes hanging around)
Bag: :srixon-small: Ltd Edition Tartan, blue/green/yellow

Using :ShotScope: to keep track of my shots

Tested:
:wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 3i-PW, KBS Tour-V 110S - Official Review
:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review
:ShotScope:
 V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review
:OnCore:
 Vero X2 - Official Review

The Stack System - Official Review

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