cnosil Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, tommc23 said: You’re welcome Yes, thank you. tommc23 and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jmikecpa said: I would say the same for me but then again Bethpage is in my backyard so there is that. Not a bad grouping of courses cksurfdude, Golfspy_CG2 and tony@CIC 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rickp said: At least I didn’t say Florida, now that’s humid!! It was actually hotter and more humid in Ohio then at our place in Florida yesterday cksurfdude, tommc23 and Rickp 1 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Rickp said: Cape Cod. A few incredible courses there. 2 hours ago, Lacassem said: Gorgeous courses and beaches galore Don't disagree, but... Q1. Is MA considered part of the Mid-Atlantic states?? (..serious question, don't know and not bothering to look it up) ..but even so part of the chatter was to think about extending the region to include more potential Spy-participants Q2. Is it too busy / too much traffic during the Summer season up there to try to arrange an outing for a dozen+ people..? Lacassem, tony@CIC, tommc23 and 2 others 5 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..Callaway Paradym driver (Aldila Ascent Blue 40/A) .. Callaway Great Big Bertha 5W (Kai'Li Red 50/R) ..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 7W (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) ..Callaway Epic Super Hybrid 21 (Recoil ZT9 F3) ..Callaway Big Bertha 5H (Recoil 460 ESX F3) ..Sub 70 699 V2 6i-GW (Recoil 660 F3) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite) ..EvnRoll ER5 (P2 Reflex grip) or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grip) or Edel EAS 4.0 .. all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Often, not always, MaxFli Tour CG. Official Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryschwartz56 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Rickp said: At least I didn’t say Florida, now that’s humid!! Florida in February is very nice. cksurfdude, tony@CIC, McGolf and 1 other 4 Quote 913D (8.5), 913Fd (15), 913h (19) Diamana shafts P790 4-PW KBS C-Taper Lite TK-15 52,56,60 KBS Tour Wedge O-Works Versa #2 Pro V1x, Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacassem Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Man now I know how Allan and Mike at Titleist feel right after the annual Team Titleist event, when everyone starts throwing suggestios for next years venue at them. But that's a great thing, it means you're ready to go again!! Never started so I’m still in planning stages Golfspy_CG2, tony@CIC, Getoffmylawn and 1 other 4 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, cnosil said: You know it would be a golf trip; not a swim with the great white shark trip. Those *can* be booked ... if one were so inclined... tony@CIC, Getoffmylawn, cnosil and 1 other 3 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..Callaway Paradym driver (Aldila Ascent Blue 40/A) .. Callaway Great Big Bertha 5W (Kai'Li Red 50/R) ..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 7W (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) ..Callaway Epic Super Hybrid 21 (Recoil ZT9 F3) ..Callaway Big Bertha 5H (Recoil 460 ESX F3) ..Sub 70 699 V2 6i-GW (Recoil 660 F3) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite) ..EvnRoll ER5 (P2 Reflex grip) or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grip) or Edel EAS 4.0 .. all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Often, not always, MaxFli Tour CG. Official Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacassem Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: Don't disagree, but... Q1. Is MA considered part of the Mid-Atlantic states?? (..serious question, don't know and not bothering to look it up) ..but even so part of the chatter was to think about extending the region to include more potential Spy-participants Q2. Is it too busy / too much traffic during the Summer season up there to try to arrange an outing for a dozen+ people..? Yes cape cod would be tough in the summer and not sure about mid Atlantic. Connecticut popped up after the “destination” talk, that’s one place always a topic for us in weekend getaways i am lucky if there is anything north of NC happening it’s an easy drive. Even Ohio isn’t a bad cruise Golfspy_CG2, tony@CIC, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: Don't disagree, but... Q1. Is MA considered part of the Mid-Atlantic states?? (..serious question, don't know and not bothering to look it up) ..but even so part of the chatter was to think about extending the region to include more potential Spy-participants Q2. Is it too busy / too much traffic during the Summer season up there to try to arrange an outing for a dozen+ people..? So Chuck, it is part of the New England region in the Introduce Yourself thread, but here's the advantage as I see it of having people like myself, you, and @EasyPutter go to this one. We can help with logistics and word of mouth for the NE group if we want to do something a bit closer to home and allowing for those who don't want a full day of travel. That's the real benefit of this thread and it's engagement, this trip was proof of concept to everyone else, outside of our PNW meet-up crew who have done this, that it can be done, that it is hellaciously fun and enjoyable and nothing to fear. Besides the memories all 12 of us have, that is my hope from this event, that it is a mere building block to more regional events organized by different people. Getoffmylawn, MattF, tony@CIC and 5 others 6 2 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGolf Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Jmikecpa said: In fairness I was not trying to figure out the grass just how to play out of it. Thanks to this trip I now know how to play off of a patch of moss that makes you feel like you are standing on quicksand. quickly MDGolfHacker, cksurfdude, MattF and 3 others 2 4 Quote Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce Putter - Makefield VS LH Ball - truvis Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD. HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: Don't disagree, but... Q1. Is MA considered part of the Mid-Atlantic states?? (..serious question, don't know and not bothering to look it up) ..but even so part of the chatter was to think about extending the region to include more potential Spy-participants Q2. Is it too busy / too much traffic during the Summer season up there to try to arrange an outing for a dozen+ people..? Summer in Cape Cod is a nightmare. GolfSpy BOS, cksurfdude, tommc23 and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGolf Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, tony@CIC said: It was actually hotter and more humid in Ohio then at our place in Florida yesterday I can tell you it was hotter and even more humid at queenstown Friday and Sunday. tony@CIC, MDGolfHacker, cnosil and 2 others 5 Quote Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce Putter - Makefield VS LH Ball - truvis Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD. HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getoffmylawn Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Since we’re all dropping ideas in here, Nemacolin in Farmington PA looks legit. I’ve never been but want to. Stay and play with cottages and two Pete Dye courses. https://www.nemacolin.com/golf/ Throwing this one out there strictly to add to the pool of ideas…I’m in wherever the next one is. MaxEntropy, tony@CIC, MattF and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 OK at the risk of being boringly repetitive... THANK YOU!!! @Golfspy_CG2, @MDGolfHacker, @Berg Ryman for all your time and efforts in setting this up and making it work out so well! Awesome golf trip! THANK YOU!! @tommc23, @Jwc5149 and @cnosil for bringing in such very delicious food! THANK YOU!! again to the really good players who took time to explain to me what I'm doing so so soooo very wrong in my golf swing, and to those who offered kind words and encouragement out on the course! ..speaking of which, it looks like the tally of ummm "temporarily misplaced" golf balls is right about an even dozen over the two rounds. Seemed and felt like a whole lot more but I brought down four dozen and came home with three dozen (not counting the Most Golf Balls Lost prize I "won" and one sleeve of MaxFli I gave to Barry to try out at his home course). --- Separately... you guys missed out a great amenity of the clubhouse - the shower! Man did that feel good after play on Sunday .. which felt more humid to me vs Saturday .. that plus clean, dry clothes before getting into the car for the drive home (which wasn't all too bad, actually - 5 1/2 hours with only bad traffic thru one expected stretch and includes two short pit stops and one extended break just to get out of the car for a while). mikeanthony, tony@CIC, MattF and 4 others 7 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..Callaway Paradym driver (Aldila Ascent Blue 40/A) .. Callaway Great Big Bertha 5W (Kai'Li Red 50/R) ..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 7W (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) ..Callaway Epic Super Hybrid 21 (Recoil ZT9 F3) ..Callaway Big Bertha 5H (Recoil 460 ESX F3) ..Sub 70 699 V2 6i-GW (Recoil 660 F3) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite) ..EvnRoll ER5 (P2 Reflex grip) or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grip) or Edel EAS 4.0 .. all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Often, not always, MaxFli Tour CG. Official Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said: So Chuck, it is part of the New England region in the Introduce Yourself thread, but here's the advantage as I see it of having people like myself, you, and @EasyPutter go to this one. We can help with logistics and word of mouth for the NE group if we want to do something a bit closer to home and allowing for those who don't want a full day of travel. That's the real benefit of this thread and it's engagement, this trip was proof of concept to everyone else, outside of our PNW meet-up crew who have done this, that it can be done, that it is hellaciously fun and enjoyable and nothing to fear. Besides the memories all 12 of us have, that is my hope from this event, that it is a mere building block to more regional events organized by different people. I know the Ohio guys do something yearly, I want to go to that one year if I get the chance. If the drive is decent in the NE area I may drive to that as well. 1 minute ago, Getoffmylawn said: Since we’re all dropping ideas in here, Nemacolin in Farmington PA looks legit. I’ve never been but want to. Stay and play with cottages and two Pete Dye courses. https://www.nemacolin.com/golf/ Throwing this one out there strictly to add to the pool of ideas…I’m in wherever the next one is. Wow that looks nice, queens town was actually closer for me than one in PA. MattF, Getoffmylawn, Rickp and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: Since we’re all dropping ideas in here, Nemacolin in Farmington PA looks legit. I’ve never been but want to. Stay and play with cottages and two Pete Dye courses. https://www.nemacolin.com/golf/ Throwing this one out there strictly to add to the pool of ideas…I’m in wherever the next one is. That is another one that has floated around on my mind. 17 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: OK at the risk of being boringly repetitive... THANK YOU!!! @Golfspy_CG2, @MDGolfHacker, @Berg Ryman for all your time and efforts in setting this up and making it work out so well! Awesome golf trip! THANK YOU!! @tommc23, @Jwc5149 and @cnosil for bringing in such very delicious food! THANK YOU!! again to the really good players who took time to explain to me what I'm doing so so soooo very wrong in my golf swing, and to those who offered kind words and encouragement out on the course! ..speaking of which, it looks like the tally of ummm "temporarily misplaced" golf balls is right about an even dozen over the two rounds. Seemed and felt like a whole lot more but I brought down four dozen and came home with three dozen (not counting the Most Golf Balls Lost prize I "won" and one sleeve of MaxFli I gave to Barry to try out at his home course). --- Separately... you guys missed out a great amenity of the clubhouse - the shower! Man did that feel good after play on Sunday .. which felt more humid to me vs Saturday .. that plus clean, dry clothes before getting into the car for the drive home (which wasn't all too bad, actually - 5 1/2 hours with only bad traffic thru one expected stretch and includes two short pit stops and one extended break just to get out of the car for a while). Ha. Cool. I wondered if anyone made use of the shower. But felt it was an odd question to ask. MattF, Rickp, tommc23 and 4 others 1 6 Quote TSR1 9.0 Graphite Design DI 5R TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, tommc23 said: I know the Ohio guys do something yearly, I want to go to that one year if I get the chance. If the drive is decent in the NE area I may drive to that as well. Wow that looks nice, queens town was actually closer for me than one in PA. I went up for the Ohio outing I think 4 years ago. It might be even have been their first one, maybe 2nd. We only played one round but went out for some extraordinary pizza afterwards. MaxEntropy, tony@CIC, MDGolfHacker and 3 others 5 1 Quote TSR1 9.0 Graphite Design DI 5R TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getoffmylawn Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 So, perhaps it’s time I offer my own quick summary/synopsis of this past outing. Much has already been said so I won’t regurgitate everything, but it’s not an understatement to say it was truly a phenomenal weekend. So, if you’re like me, a concern you might have in the back of your mind is “I know these guys, but only online, so I don’t actually know them at all and this could turn out to be no fun at all.” I can tell you it took almost no time for the whole crew to hit it off like old friends, which in a weird 21st century kinda way, we are. It was great food (thank you Tom and Jeff), great company, great golf, great shenanigans (playing closest to the pin on our own backyard par 3 was a blast)….GREAT weekend. And as a guy who struggled mightily on the course, I can tell you…nobody cares. Of course we all want to play well, but getting hung up on your scores is easy to avoid when you’re among great company. I truly hope this, and more events like it, continue and pop up across spy country. ** EDIT: Oh, and one other thing, @cnosilhas totally been sandbagging all of us on his calves game! Calves like Phil, and he doesn’t run, lift…in his words “I don’t do anything” yet he’s never said a word about it hear on the forum! ** Golfspy_CG2, Rickp, MDGolfHacker and 6 others 3 4 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 hours ago, MDGolfHacker said: ...... - I'm renaming your screen name - Mr. Consistent! To paraphrase an old election debate.... I have met Mr. Consistent, I played golf with Mr. Consistent on Sunday and I can definitely say I am not worthy to be called Mr. Consistent while @cnosil is in the group! cksurfdude, tony@CIC, Getoffmylawn and 5 others 2 6 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Raw 50*, Nippon Tour 120 X; Edison 2.0 53*, KBS Tour 120 S ; Edison 2.0 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy BOS Posted August 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Yep and of course everyone wants it’s in their own backyard. But that’s cool, lots of options to consider. ^^^ says the guy who booked it in his backyard. cksurfdude, Golfspy_CG2, McGolf and 8 others 1 10 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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