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On the brink of turning 72, I look back on my last 15 rounds via Shot Scope and note that my driver average is 193, with 73% FIR. My driver is a PXG 0211 currently set at 12* with an Evenflow Riptide CB regular shaft. Although I have shifted my irons to Senior shafts, my woods are still regular. As for cool weather golf, I am in shorts until it dips into the mid 40’s. I do have some long pants but would rather wear shorts.

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Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.png0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft & 0811 XF w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.png0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: None in bag at the moment

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Titleist T300 48* GW w/Fubuki MV Senior shaft and Edison forged 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm).

Putter: 33”   Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Ping Ketsch

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). 

Ball: Maxfli Tour CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel

Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder

 

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23 minutes ago, fozcycle said:

On the brink of turning 72, I look back on my last 15 rounds via Shot Scope and note that my driver average is 193, with 73% FIR. My driver is a PXG 0211 currently set at 12* with an Evenflow Riptide CB regular shaft. Although I have shifted my irons to Senior shafts, my woods are still regular. As for cool weather golf, I am in shorts until it dips into the mid 40’s. I do have some long pants but would rather wear shorts.

I found better distance by adjusting my Callaway Epic Max senior flex shaft  from the stock 10.5 to 9.5; my ball flight was too high for my swing speed after my swing change.  

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7 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I found better distance by adjusting my Callaway Epic Max senior flex shaft  from the stock 10.5 to 9.5; my ball flight was too high for my swing speed after my swing change.  

After my knee replacement I noticed driver trajectory has been very high, was set at 13*, have it now set at 11* and seems to be better.  I’ll be able to evaluate tomorrow & especially Wednesday.

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Left Hand, 

Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr   
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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11 hours ago, fozcycle said:

On the brink of turning 72, I look back on my last 15 rounds via Shot Scope and note that my driver average is 193, with 73% FIR. My driver is a PXG 0211 currently set at 12* with an Evenflow Riptide CB regular shaft. Although I have shifted my irons to Senior shafts, my woods are still regular. As for cool weather golf, I am in shorts until it dips into the mid 40’s. I do have some long pants but would rather wear shorts.

I'm 72 10/11 and play my Mizuno MP Type 2 @8.5, par on last hole highlight of the day. I try to forget about birthdays, except wifey buys dinner..

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11 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I found better distance by adjusting my Callaway Epic Max senior flex shaft  from the stock 10.5 to 9.5; my ball flight was too high for my swing speed after my swing change.  

 

4 hours ago, Rickp said:

After my knee replacement I noticed driver trajectory has been very high, was set at 13*, have it now set at 11* and seems to be better.  I’ll be able to evaluate tomorrow & especially Wednesday.

I’m going the opposite direction. 
Tomorrow will be my first time playing a non-Ping driver in about 10 years, (or whenever the G30 came out?) and my first time with a 10.5* loft. I love the way the ST Max sets up behind the ball, hopefully my #’s carry over from demo to the course.

I’m keeping the Ping 425 around though as a security blanket. This is a “big” change for me, and I’m not sure why I’m making it, other than when I was fit for irons recently, they told me I needed to be in regular flex, not Senior with my driver.
I’m not so sure… I hit the Ping very well Saturday. 🙄

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Driver:         :callaway-small: Rogue St Max 10.5* 

Fairway:      :taylormade-small: 2016 M2 16.5*

Hybrid:      :PXG: Gen5 0311 18*

                     :titleist-small:  TSi2 21* & 24*

Irons:          :PXG: Gen3 0311 XP 6-GW

Wedges:     :cleveland-small: CBX 54* & 58* 

Putter:         :cameron-small:  Phantom X 5.5 33.5” 

                      :yes-small: Tracy 33.5”

  :OnCore: Elixir Yellow 

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36 minutes ago, Grand Stranded said:

 

I’m going the opposite direction. 
Tomorrow will be my first time playing a non-Ping driver in about 10 years, (or whenever the G30 came out?) and my first time with a 10.5* loft. I love the way the ST Max sets up behind the ball, hopefully my #’s carry over from demo to the course.

I’m keeping the Ping 425 around though as a security blanket. This is a “big” change for me, and I’m not sure why I’m making it, other than when I was fit for irons recently, they told me I needed to be in regular flex, not Senior with my driver.
I’m not so sure… I hit the Ping very well Saturday. 🙄

Looking forward to your results tomorrow.  Good luck Grasshopper!! 

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Rick

 

 

Left Hand, 

Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr   
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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I'm going back and forth between the R Flex Air Speeder and the same model in the A Flex. And using the V3 to track the PAVG difference. So far the A Flex is winning out. Since I only paid $45. for the R Flex, it's a cheap way to judge the difference. Now if I could just eliminate the short mishit drives that number would jump up with either shaft. 

@fozcyclewhen you were fitted for the 0211 did you try the Evenflow Riptide  in A Flex? I have the R Flex Riptide it my 3 W but consistently hit it shorter than my 5 W with a Helium A Flex  I'm thinking of swapping out the Riptide for my Helium (both woods are Cobras with identical connectors) and just not using my 5W at all since I'm getting almost the same distance with it as my 410 22* hybrid. 

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Cobra  Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

:odyssey-small: O Works putter

:ShotScope: V3
:918457628_PrecisionPro:NX9-HD

:CaddyTek: - 4 Wheel 

EZGO TXT 48v cart
:footjoy-small: - too many shoes to list and so many to buy

:1590477705_SunMountain: And  BAG Boy

Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 

2020 Official Teste:SuperSpeed: Beginning Driver Speed  - 78

2019 Official Tester :ping-small:  410 Driver

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On 10/17/2022 at 5:23 AM, fozcycle said:

On the brink of turning 72, I look back on my last 15 rounds via Shot Scope and note that my driver average is 193, with 73% FIR.

 

... Glad you posted this foz and many could learn something from it. 👍  Playing in the desert with a ton of roll once the season gets in full swing, many here are delusional about how far they hit their drivers. Especially carry. We have a short par 4 and driving the green requires about a 220yd carry over water. Prevailing wind is usually into the golfer. The amount of times I see faux "big hitters" come up short of the 220 carry is more often than not. They may make it 1 out of 5 times but really don't count the other 4. 🙄  This course also has several slopes that if you can get close with carry, they will add another 40+ yds and many confuse their 215-220yd carry with their 280 total. Somehow ignoring their 225 yd drive when the landing area is just slightly uphill or even flat. 

... Unless you are using some kind of a measuring device it has been my experience most have an inflated idea of how far they hit their drivers. I know I did. Not a problem of course as many golfers have a healthy ego, until they try and carry a hazard on an unfamiliar course. 

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Driver:     :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 10.5* ... AD-IZ 6SR
Fairway:  :taylormade-small: SIM2 Max 15/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R
Hybrids:    :taylormade-small: RBZ Tour Hybrid 21.5* ... Diamana Ltd 65R
Utility:      :taylormade-small: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R hy
Irons:        :cobra-small: 4-9 MIM Tour ... Steelfiber i95R
Wedges:   :taylormade-small: MG3 46*/50*/58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R
Putter:      :bobby-grace-1: 6330 LTD Edition ...  33.5"
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12 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... Glad you posted this foz and many could learn something from it. 👍  Playing in the desert with a ton of roll once the season gets in full swing, many here are delusional about how far they hit their drivers. Especially carry. We have a short par 4 and driving the green requires about a 220yd carry over water. Prevailing wind is usually into the golfer. The amount of times I see faux "big hitters" come up short of the 220 carry is more often than not. They may make it 1 out of 5 times but really don't count the other 4. 🙄  This course also has several slopes that if you can get close with carry, they will add another 40+ yds and many confuse their 215-220yd carry with their 280 total. Somehow ignoring their 225 yd drive when the landing area is just slightly uphill or even flat. 

... Unless you are using some kind of a measuring device it has been my experience most have an inflated idea of how far they hit their drivers. I know I did. Not a problem of course as many golfers have a healthy ego, until they try and carry a hazard on an unfamiliar course. 

That's because most delusional golfers count their yearly longest shot as "average distance".  Sure, I hit two drives 256 and 262 yards (little roll-out) when I played in slightly wet conditions last Saturday, but both holes were slightly downhill and I had a good 12-15 MPH tailwind on one of those drives.  I would venture that my "average" drive on Saturday was more like 230 yards, and I hit a couple that probably only carried 215-220.

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Driver: Ping G425 Max, 9*, Miyazaki  Kuala Mizu Tour Issue 6S, 44.75" playing length

4-Wood: Titleist TS2, 16.5*, Miyazaki Kuala Mizu Tour Issue 7S, 42.75" playing length

5/7-Wood: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero set to 20* loft; Tensei Blue 75-S, 41.5" playing length

Hybrids: Exotics EXS Pro (22*), Mitsubishi Tensei Silver 75S

Irons: Exotics EXS220 5-iron and New Level MODB-1 (6-iron through PW), KBS TGI Tour 80 (stiff) shafts

Wedges: New Hogan Equalizer wedges (48* and 56* + Maltby TSW Forged 52-8, all bent 1* weak

Putter: Evnroll ER2, 34”with Gravity Grip

Ball: Snell MTBx

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1 minute ago, funkyjudge said:

That's because most delusional golfers count their yearly longest shot as "average distance".  Sure, I hit two drives 256 and 262 yards (little roll-out) when I played in slightly wet conditions last Saturday, but both holes were slightly downhill and I had a good 12-15 MPH tailwind on one of those drives.  I would venture that my "average" drive on Saturday was more like 230 yards, and I hit a couple that probably only carried 215-220.

Some of us actually keep stats. For those who don't, your alleged "method" might be accurate.

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Just now, Middler said:

Some of us actually keep stats. For those who don't, your alleged "method" might be accurate.

That is why I said “most delusional golfers”.

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Driver: Ping G425 Max, 9*, Miyazaki  Kuala Mizu Tour Issue 6S, 44.75" playing length

4-Wood: Titleist TS2, 16.5*, Miyazaki Kuala Mizu Tour Issue 7S, 42.75" playing length

5/7-Wood: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero set to 20* loft; Tensei Blue 75-S, 41.5" playing length

Hybrids: Exotics EXS Pro (22*), Mitsubishi Tensei Silver 75S

Irons: Exotics EXS220 5-iron and New Level MODB-1 (6-iron through PW), KBS TGI Tour 80 (stiff) shafts

Wedges: New Hogan Equalizer wedges (48* and 56* + Maltby TSW Forged 52-8, all bent 1* weak

Putter: Evnroll ER2, 34”with Gravity Grip

Ball: Snell MTBx

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1 hour ago, funkyjudge said:

That's because most delusional golfers count their yearly longest shot as "average distance".  Sure, I hit two drives 256 and 262 yards (little roll-out) when I played in slightly wet conditions last Saturday, but both holes were slightly downhill and I had a good 12-15 MPH tailwind on one of those drives.  I would venture that my "average" drive on Saturday was more like 230 yards, and I hit a couple that probably only carried 215-220.

Please understand I'm grateful you raised this question I should of been clear at the beginning, sorry for the confusion...

Well to be fair I didn't ask about your yearly average drive, you Police what you say here. Although I wasn't clear when I started this topic I was only looking at what guys over 65years young were hitting the driver, I wanted that inspiration to encourage me to keep trying to get better. Im just being a bit selfish, I thank all who posted and please please keep posting. Cheers Colin...

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On 10/18/2022 at 1:21 PM, tony@CIC said:

I'm going back and forth between the R Flex Air Speeder and the same model in the A Flex. And using the V3 to track the PAVG difference. So far the A Flex is winning out. Since I only paid $45. for the R Flex, it's a cheap way to judge the difference. Now if I could just eliminate the short mishit drives that number would jump up with either shaft. 

@fozcyclewhen you were fitted for the 0211 did you try the Evenflow Riptide  in A Flex? I have the R Flex Riptide it my 3 W but consistently hit it shorter than my 5 W with a Helium A Flex  I'm thinking of swapping out the Riptide for my Helium (both woods are Cobras with identical connectors) and just not using my 5W at all since I'm getting almost the same distance with it as my 410 22* hybrid. 

I was not even thinking Senior shaft when I got my 0211 driver. Right now I am concentrating more on loft and FIR. Currently my FIR is at 71% with my loft at 12* and avg distance at 193.  Hoping to run with that for awhile but will be considering the Senior shaft in near future.

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Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.png0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft & 0811 XF w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.png0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: None in bag at the moment

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Titleist T300 48* GW w/Fubuki MV Senior shaft and Edison forged 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm).

Putter: 33”   Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Ping Ketsch

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). 

Ball: Maxfli Tour CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel

Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder

 

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On 10/18/2022 at 3:09 PM, funkyjudge said:

That's because most delusional golfers count their yearly longest shot as "average distance".  Sure, I hit two drives 256 and 262 yards (little roll-out) when I played in slightly wet conditions last Saturday, but both holes were slightly downhill and I had a good 12-15 MPH tailwind on one of those drives.  I would venture that my "average" drive on Saturday was more like 230 yards, and I hit a couple that probably only carried 215-220.

Thanks Chisag, that’s what I like about Shotscope….it keeps me look8ng at real numbers, not guesses.

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Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.png0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft & 0811 XF w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.png0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: None in bag at the moment

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Titleist T300 48* GW w/Fubuki MV Senior shaft and Edison forged 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm).

Putter: 33”   Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Ping Ketsch

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). 

Ball: Maxfli Tour CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel

Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder

 

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These threads are fun, but a little silly.

Your distance varies so much depending on where you play. Most of the year I’m down in the Myrtle Beach area, and because of the soft conditions and sea level, I’m 10% shorter (at least one club, sometimes more) throughout my bag.

With an 85ish mph SS, I can carry the ball about 200 on average down here. Roll out is dependent on conditions, but it’s usually not very much.

If I’m up on Long Island, I’ll average about 215  carry and get some decent roll out. If I were to play at a higher elevation, or an are like Texas where the fairways are rock hard, I’m going to get a lot more. So depending on where I’m playing I can average anywhere from 200 carry/ 210 total up to 225 carry/ 250 total.

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Driver:         :callaway-small: Rogue St Max 10.5* 

Fairway:      :taylormade-small: 2016 M2 16.5*

Hybrid:      :PXG: Gen5 0311 18*

                     :titleist-small:  TSi2 21* & 24*

Irons:          :PXG: Gen3 0311 XP 6-GW

Wedges:     :cleveland-small: CBX 54* & 58* 

Putter:         :cameron-small:  Phantom X 5.5 33.5” 

                      :yes-small: Tracy 33.5”

  :OnCore: Elixir Yellow 

   :1590477705_SunMountain:  2.5 4 way Black 

 

 

             

             

 

 

 

 

 

              

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Grand Stranded said:

These threads are fun, but a little silly.

Your distance varies so much depending on where you play. Most of the year I’m down in the Myrtle Beach area, and because of the soft conditions and sea level, I’m 10% shorter (at least one club, sometimes more) throughout my bag.

With an 85ish mph SS, I can carry the ball about 200 on average down here. Roll out is dependent on conditions, but it’s usually not very much.

If I’m up on Long Island, I’ll average about 215  carry and get some decent roll out. If I were to play at a higher elevation, or an are like Texas where the fairways are rock hard, I’m going to get a lot more. So depending on where I’m playing I can average anywhere from 200 carry/ 210 total up to 225 carry/ 250 total.

I can't wait for winter. I hear you get really good roll out on frozen lakes. 🤣

Seriously though you are correct. My carry and roll out changes by location and elevation. In Myrtle I'm shorter (Sea level and heavy salt air) in Denver Colorado much longer (5,300 feet in elevation and thin dry air). In the end the score is what counts anyway. I live at 1,500 feet in elevation and average about 230 to 240 yards.    

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:taylormade-small: 5 Wood, SLDR 19* R Flex

:cobra-small: 7 Wood, F6 22.5* R Flex

:Sub70: 939x 5 hybrid

:Sub70: Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (6 - AW)

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On 10/21/2022 at 1:41 AM, NJDon said:

69 years old, I play a ping g30 at 12 degrees with a regular flex shaft, and I hit it between 190-210. My swing speed is low to mid 80's. Struggle to keep it in the fairway, but improving. Switched to Lefty 4 years ago.

First sorry didn't know that you posted here I've not received a notification from your post and a few others, I actually started out in my 20s as a Lefty because someone loaned me those clubs and I'm right handed and that's what I play now lol. 

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On 10/21/2022 at 2:01 AM, Grand Stranded said:

These threads are fun, but a little silly.

Your distance varies so much depending on where you play. Most of the year I’m down in the Myrtle Beach area, and because of the soft conditions and sea level, I’m 10% shorter (at least one club, sometimes more) throughout my bag.

With an 85ish mph SS, I can carry the ball about 200 on average down here. Roll out is dependent on conditions, but it’s usually not very much.

If I’m up on Long Island, I’ll average about 215  carry and get some decent roll out. If I were to play at a higher elevation, or an are like Texas where the fairways are rock hard, I’m going to get a lot more. So depending on where I’m playing I can average anywhere from 200 carry/ 210 total up to 225 carry/ 250 total.

Yeah silly thread, I thought it was interesting to see what others were achieving compared to me. and what I need to do to improve or be happy that I'm driving average for my age...

I actually don't know my average CARRY just total distances, and as you say too many outside conditions that change daily weather topography etc etc. I wouldn't try to carry a hazard more than 180metres even though my total distances have been 250+ metres, I'd hit 2 5woods...

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On 10/20/2022 at 5:15 AM, fozcycle said:

Thanks Chisag, that’s what I like about Shotscope….it keeps me look8ng at real numbers, not guesses.

Same here. Shotscope and I assume ARRCOS as well are 'lie detectors'. 

One thing I like about the Shotscope App is that I can see my Performance AVG distances which knocks out the lows and the highs. So far in 2023 my PAVG is 191. If I look at the longest drives I had a few in excess of 220 but also some 160 drives. 

The one big thing I've found as I get older is the inconsistency in distances especially for long clubs. That's a component of this topic that hasn't been mentioned. 

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Cobra  Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

:odyssey-small: O Works putter

:ShotScope: V3
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