Mizuno JPX 923

[Hook DeLoft]

2 hours ago, dlow206 said:

they have UST MAMIYA RECOIL ESX GRAPHITE

I was thinking in addition to the ESX offerings. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

7 hours ago, Hook DeLoft said:

I would like to see one or two more offerings in light weight (50 to 75g) graphite for us old farts. 

Have you even looked? I can think of 3 companies off the top of my head that have them. UST, Project X and Mitsubishi. Other that iirc have them are graphite design, fujikura and kbs

[yungkory]

36 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Have you even looked? I can think of 3 companies off the top of my head that have them. UST, Project X and Mitsubishi. Other that iirc have them are graphite design, fujikura and kbs

I think he means he wants them added to Mizuno's matrix

[Rickp]

I have a Fitting Monday morning for the JPX923 HM.  I saw the heads today and once again an impressive looking iron from Mizuno.  
Im disappointed that the HL is not available in Left Hand now and may not be ever.  I’ll give the HM a test especially the lighter weight graphite shafts available.

[Hook DeLoft]

6 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Have you even looked? I can think of 3 companies off the top of my head that have them. UST, Project X and Mitsubishi. Other that iirc have them are graphite design, fujikura and kbs

I wasn’t clear. In addition to Mizuno’s current lightweight offerings, I would like to see them offer a couple more. I don’t get along with that particular Recoil. 

[PMookie]

A funny thing happened yesterday… Hot Metal Pro 5-GW, DG S300, +1”, 1* up were ordered by this guy after an impromptu fitting. Yep. Crazy. Long, long story, but I went-in to finish a fitting for another set of irons, didn’t have a shaft in the fitting cart, started trying shafts in the Mizuno heads, and before you know it I’m making an INSANE deal for HMP!!!! 

[MattF]

17 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Curious why he said he never Recommends it.

For the reason you said, too boardy and in his words, they're old tech.

[MattF]

I may be reshafting mine next year. UST is releasing a new Dart model in 90g and from all accounts, including someone I know, it's fantastic.

[Golfspy_CG2]

12 hours ago, MattF said:

For the reason you said, too boardy and in his words, they're old tech.

Yeah. But I said that was my impression without hitting them based on word of mouth.  When o actually hit them I found they see very playable if you stay in your weight range.    
 

not sure about the old tech.  But maybe there’s newer tech out I haven’t seen or heard of.   I know none of the new shaft oir rep showed us have anything new and revolution. Pretty much stock graphite or stock steels.  

[MattF]

13 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Yeah. But I said that was my impression without hitting them based on word of mouth.  When o actually hit them I found they see very playable if you stay in your weight range.    
 

not sure about the old tech.  But maybe there’s newer tech out I haven’t seen or heard of.   I know none of the new shaft oir rep showed us have anything new and revolution. Pretty much stock graphite or stock steels.  

His words, not mine. I've played Recoil shafts 2 of my last 2 sets before these and they're a good fit for me.

However, the new Dart WILL be getting a trial run in a D7 Forged 8 iron head (Wilson screwed up during that test and sent me the wrong flex in that club) and possibly go into the entire 923 and wedge set.

[Rickp]

Did Mizuno fitting this morning.  Will give more info later but JPX 923 HM ordered due 10/13.

[Middler]

15 minutes ago, Rickp said:

Did Mizuno fitting this morning.  Will give more info later but JPX 923 HM ordered due 10/13.

Congrats. Outstanding irons.

[RollingGreens]

Going to be waiting to test out the 932 line until early next year. Going through lessons to make swing changes and I’m back on my lifting program. Had a trackman session and I’ve lost about 5mph over the last year from cutting back on strength training. Going to piece everything together before getting some new sticks

[MattF]

Waiting until next year will get you the forged and tour options.

[Middler]

1 hour ago, MattF said:

Waiting until next year will get you the forged and tour options.

I may do the same, though if I’m honest with myself I should probably be playing some HM variant…

[PMookie]

4 hours ago, Middler said:

I may do the same, though if I’m honest with myself I should probably be playing some HM variant…

HMP is pretty close, but forgiving. If you've seen TXG's visit with Mizuno's designer (can't remember his name) of the clubs, they talk about retaining spin with HMP that wasn't there in the original iteration, and is an issue with these "hot" clubs. P790 was like that for me in testing, no spin. Spin was REALLY good for me with the 923 HMP, I was able to keep peak height right at 100, and then I got the advantages of dispersion and ball speed gains. Did I need ball speed, per se? No, I hit the ball long enough, but the consistency of that ball speed due to the ridiculous number of center face strikes was a great advantage. I can adjust what club I need to hit for the added distance, but if I can have a CONSISTENT distance through the help of strike location and increased spin, reducing flyers and "hot shots", it's really hard to turn that down. I need help with forgiveness from irons, so these fit that bill and give me a lot more!

[edingc]

On 9/29/2022 at 7:09 AM, MattF said:

That Optimizer ALWAYS shows Steelfibers as a fit, regardless of the fact that it feels like crap for the majority of people.

 

On 9/29/2022 at 9:49 AM, dlow206 said:

i've been playing Steelfibers for so long (almost a year is a long time in my book), that i almost forgot that shafts can have feel lol. 

 

On 9/29/2022 at 3:25 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Not in our case,it rarely comes up. We get recoil a lot.  I actually like the feel of it, it fits my aggressive transition which quickly becomes "moderate" speed

 

 

On 9/30/2022 at 1:29 PM, RickyBobby_PR said:

It’s why hitting the shafts are a must and even more so a fitting. The tool is a starting point to narrow down potential shafts.

Don't want to get off topic too much here, but I laughed a little when I read this because to me the SteelFibers are very smooth and feel quite lively. The Recoil I have feels much more dead to me.

That being said, when I was on the optimizer a few years back with an 85 MPH 7 iron the top three choices were SteelFiber i110, KBS Tour Regular and KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff. So maybe there is something to SteelFibers showing up quite often...

[MattF]

2 hours ago, PMookie said:

If you've seen TXG's visit with Mizuno's designer (can't remember his name) of the clubs,

Chris Voshall. Hell of a great guy, font of knowledge and pretty funny.

[dlow206]

1 hour ago, edingc said:

 

 

 

Don't want to get off topic too much here, but I laughed a little when I read this because to me the SteelFibers are very smooth and feel quite lively. The Recoil I have feels much more dead to me.

That being said, when I was on the optimizer a few years back with an 85 MPH 7 iron the top three choices were SteelFiber i110, KBS Tour Regular and KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff. So maybe there is something to SteelFibers showing up quite often...

For me, i don't load shafts very hard because my transition is slow so that is why Steelfibers in Stiff feel a bit boardy to me. 

[Rickp]

23 hours ago, Rickp said:

Did Mizuno fitting this morning.  Will give more info later but JPX 923 HM ordered due 10/13.

I should know better than try out an iron and think I wouldn’t buy them.  
We went thru the Mizuno Optimizer and his other fitting equipment 1/2 of which I had very little knowledge except watch the screen and the computer reading.  We went they the different heads and the HM gave best results also the recoil shaft gave best numbers. The recoil ended up with is 59gr, a little lighter than I have now.  
Hitting it side by side with the G710 could see a height difference, slight distance improvement and baby draw.  Haven’t seen that draw in a while! 
Delivery 10/13, that seems awful quick.  
Going to trade the G710 since I’m moving to a lighter shaft.

BTW, couldn’t try the HL not available in LH.

[billybogey]

You Folks are a way over my Head!! Got my 921 Hot Metal Pro Irons just over a Year ago. Got to say I'm just starting to feel comfortable with the Carry/Roll yardage I'm getting. So much so that feel they are helping me to WIN $$ off the Sandbaggers that I play wit, who for some reason have suggested I move on!!

Simply; I'm playing better & I'm Happier!! Think I'll keep the 921's a couple of more years; then maybe....................

[Golfspy_CG2]

On 10/4/2022 at 8:39 AM, Middler said:

I may do the same, though if I’m honest with myself I should probably be playing some HM variant…

Or you could take my approach.  Order the Hot Metal now, play them for 6 months and then order the Forged when they come out in the spring

 

[GolfSpy TCB]

2 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Order the Hot Metal now, play them for 6 months and then order the Forged when they come out in the spring

I like the way you think CG2!

[Rickp]

7 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Or you could take my approach.  Order the Hot Metal now, play them for 6 months and then order the Forged when they come out in the spring

 

Rob, Still my Hero!!

[dlow206]

3 hours ago, Rickp said:

Rob, Still my Hero!!

My hero too. I'm trying to get out of the CHA shenanigans, but i do have two sets of JPX 923 on the way lol.

[yungkory]

3 hours ago, dlow206 said:

My hero too. I'm trying to get out of the CHA shenanigans, but i do have two sets of JPX 923 on the way lol.

And you're my hero. 2 sets of JPX and 2 AFs?

[dlow206]

6 hours ago, yungkory said:

And you're my hero. 2 sets of JPX and 2 AFs?

2 set of JPX, the first is going up for sale though before trying. I ordered before getting fitted because I got too excited by the pre-release.

This is actually the third AF lol (not all owned at one time though). 

[GolfSpy TCB]

For a few reasons... one of which I'm really wanting to test the forged and tour model, I think I will wait until they are released before thinking about ANOTHER set of irons.  Of course, I say that today... tomorrow I may walk by the HMP's in the store and then all bets are off .  haha.

[SagedCrusader]

On 10/3/2022 at 5:08 PM, Rickp said:

Did Mizuno fitting this morning.  Will give more info later but JPX 923 HM ordered due 10/13.

can't wait to be able to order mine

[GolfSpy TCB]

Just awesome to see these pop up in my inbox (PGA Tour SS ad.)  #Gratuitous Photo