josmi15 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 First off, let me apologize to my fellow spies. I've been neglecting going on the site as frequent as I used to. I have commented lately on Instagram, Twitter & Facebook. Now that I get that out of the way, I have a question that I would like to ponder to the group. Here's the scenario, you booked your weekend tee time with your normal group. You dream of starting off on 1 with a perfect drive right down the middle of the fairway. You've imagined it in your head all week long. The morning of your tee time, you arrive at the course 30 or 45 minutes early to chip, putt or maybe hit the range. Upon your arrival you see the sign on the clubhouse door. "Starting on 10 today" My questions are, do you feel deflated? Instead of hitting a bomb down 1, you're now getting ready to tee off on a hole you haven't mentally prepared for all week. Is it just me? I have noticed that I tend to score badly on the first few holes on the back, when i start on the back. Thanks for your time, i look forward to reading all the responses. (Honestly, I hope people will read this). 3 Quote Titleist 917D2 10.5 Ben Hogan GS53 3 Wood Cobra Fly-Z Hybrid 18.5 Titleist 816 H1 23 PING G30 5-PW Cleveland RTX 3.0 50/10 V-MG Cleveland RTX 3.0 54/14 V-FG Cleveland RTX 3.0 58/12 V -FG EVNROLL ER-3 Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Doesn’t bother me at all. If I know the course I have a plan for each hole so it’s just doing my best to execute the game plan I try not to let things I can’t control affect me and that’s for everything in life. Too much waster energy trying to worry about things out of one’s control or trying to control things that can’t be controlled. 6 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
Pandaman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Hmm. If I found that put me off more than just a minor disorientation on arrival then I guess my 'mental game' would need a lot more work than it already does. 3 Quote Link to comment
Philip_R Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I play on a 9 hole course so it is really not a problem for me. Some courses here in South Africa has 27 holes so you cannot really commit yourself mentally to go off a certain tee for the 1st hole, as the starter decide which combination of 9 holes you will play for the day. 3 Quote TS3 8.5° RBZ Stage 2 Tour 14.5° Apex Edge 2 Iron MP32 Irons 3 - PW 54° and 60° Wedges Newport 2 Gunmetal Pro V1 Link to comment
vandyland Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, josmi15 said: My questions are, do you feel deflated? Instead of hitting a bomb down 1, you're now getting ready to tee off on a hole you haven't mentally prepared for all week. Is it just me? I have noticed that I tend to score badly on the first few holes on the back, when i start on the back. Thanks for your time, i look forward to reading all the responses. (Honestly, I hope people will read this). As someone who likes to prepare for rounds in a similar fashion, I think I would be deflated if it was a once in a lifetime course like Pebble or Harbour Town. If it is a course I play frequently, then it is no problem at all. If it is a resort course that I will only play once but isn't particularly memorable I think I would just adjust and play it. 3 Quote Cobra Radspeed XB 10.5* with Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45g "A" Flex shaft (Otto-phlex) - Callaway Rogue ST Max 18* Hybrid - New Level Gi22 5-7 iron - PTxPro 7-PW - Ping Eye2 BeCu Gap Wedge - Ping Glide 4.0 LW - LAB Golf DF 2.1 Putter Titleist White Box 2023 Prototype Golf balls review -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/53743-member-test-titleist-pro-v1pro-v1x-white-box/?do=findComment&comment=870550 Link to comment
Golfspy_TCB Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 My course was originally designed with the nine's flopped... so what is now 9 was the finishing hole, and what is now 18 was the turn. So when I go off the back to start my round... I consider it playing the course the way the designer intended it... before management decided to make a change . My course is interesting... with most of the current front nine playing with a fade bias, and most of the current back nine playing with a draw bias... so just getting my mind right to attack the course with the swing I brought that day is really the only difference... We also have a weekly men's club event that is a shotgun start... so even the two nines sometimes aren't played consecutively... Once I'm in the round... I play each hole individually. 2 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Otto Phlex PLB 45 "L" Srixon ZX 3W & 5W Titleist TSi2 5 Hybrid TaylorMade Stealth 5-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2.5 Maxfli Tour / Titleist AVX Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said: My course was originally designed with the nine's flopped... so what is now 9 was the finishing hole, and what is now 18 was the turn. So when I go off the back to start my round... I consider it playing the course the way the designer intended it... before management decided to make a change . My course is interesting... with most of the current front nine playing with a fade bias, and most of the current back nine playing with a draw bias... so just getting my mind right to attack the course with the swing I brought that day is really the only difference... We also have a weekly men's club event that is a shotgun start... so even the two nines sometimes aren't played consecutively... Once I'm in the round... I play each hole individually. A course I used to play before it turned private flipped 9s. Didn’t really change the approach to course it just changed the stress level of starting off on a good note 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
russtopherb Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Don't care at all. Am I playing golf? Yes. So I'm happy. 6 Quote In my carry bag: Mavrik Max 10.5* R Flex Evenflow RipTide Hy-Wood Launcher 5h D7 6i-GW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact Link to comment
TR1PTIK Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I think I'm with the majority in that it wouldn't affect me much as long as I'm prepared. Unless it's a course I frequent and already have a solid strategy for I usually try to prepare for my rounds using Google Earth or something and write down some notes to take to the course (a recent practice that I've found some success with). Having to start on 10 instead of 1 in most cases won't be too impactful, but in others can up the stress level and might mean a more strategic play off the tee. For example, #1 at Southern Oaks - where I spend most of my time - is a short Par 5 with an open tee shot and easy approach (most of the time). However, #10 is a much tighter Par 4 with trees on both sides and OB on both sides beyond those trees. The fairway slopes left-to-right most of the way and the green slopes heavily right-to-left. If it weren't for my familiarity with the course, I think I would feel a significant amount more pressure hitting my first shot of the day off #10 than #1. #1 Tee Shot at Southern Oaks: #10 Tee Shot at Southern Oaks: 3 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Tour B XW-1 54* & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105 Putter: Huntington Beach SOFT Premier 4 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I wouldn't let this bother me, even with my 'home' course having two distinct 9s. Heck sometimes the pro even sends me out to start on 5 if there's a slow group that just went out. I do like others and review a course on Google Earth before I play so I know what I'm hitting off each tee. I can commit to a safe shot if I need to, and I can also go to a driver if I know it's safe. I only make a note on what the safe club is, which is what I need to get inside wedge distance (120 yards) And if it is ok to hit driver, with a Y/N/M. If the hole is a yes I'm hitting driver cause that means it's pretty wide open or a very long hole. If it's a maybe I'd likely hit the safe club so I can start off smooth. 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: Titleist 714CB 4-PW Wedges: Vokey SM5 & SM6 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
stuka44 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 This would not bother me at all. Given that I normally show up, with enough time to pay, and get to the tee box 8-10 minutes early, and my entire warm up consists of a few half hearted stretches, and swings to attempt to stave off "pulling" something, the idea of planning my first shot on a starting hole ahead of time honestly never occurred to me. 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Putter: Scottsdale Wolverine Woods: Gigagolf 3W, 2H, 3H Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, josmi15 said: First off, let me apologize to my fellow spies. I've been neglecting going on the site as frequent as I used to. I have commented lately on Instagram, Twitter & Facebook. Now that I get that out of the way, I have a question that I would like to ponder to the group. Here's the scenario, you booked your weekend tee time with your normal group. You dream of starting off on 1 with a perfect drive right down the middle of the fairway. You've imagined it in your head all week long. The morning of your tee time, you arrive at the course 30 or 45 minutes early to chip, putt or maybe hit the range. Upon your arrival you see the sign on the clubhouse door. "Starting on 10 today" My questions are, do you feel deflated? Instead of hitting a bomb down 1, you're now getting ready to tee off on a hole you haven't mentally prepared for all week. Is it just me? I have noticed that I tend to score badly on the first few holes on the back, when i start on the back. Thanks for your time, i look forward to reading all the responses. (Honestly, I hope people will read this). Makes no difference to me and actually my old home course I preferred to start on 10 as I loved the first 3 holes when it was a back 9 start. The first 3 holes on the front weren't hard, but with 2 par 5s on the front and only 1 on the back it certainly felt like I could make up ground on the front 9 vs the back 9. I get what you say about dreaming of the first tee shot and imagining it and such and I have often done the same thing... only to pull hook it into the woods haha So in short not a bother at all and given I play casual vs competitive I'm not really fussed one way or another. 1 Quote as of Oct 31, 2022 (Past WITB) Driver: TBD: Follow here: Driver Shootout! Wood: King SZ 3 wood 15.5* G410 Crossover - 4 iron or others.... Irons: Sub70 659 TC Raw 5-Aw w/ KBS Tour 90 Stiff Black PVD Wedge: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff Putter: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester) Balls: / (currently testing) Other: Link to comment
bens197 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, russtopherb said: Don't care at all. Am I playing golf? Yes. So I'm happy. Same brain. And let's be honest...now that I am 9 holes into my round, I can tee off on 1 and really launch a nice bomb while properly warmed up. 2 Quote Titleist TSI3 LAGolf DJ 65 5 TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Mizuno Pro 223 4-P Nippon Modus 3 115X Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ.1 LAGolf P135 Srixon Z-Star XV Divide Western, NY - Go Bills! 5.1 Index Link to comment
xOldBenKenobiX Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 It really does not matter to me, I am just happy to be out there slicing and hooking that ball. 2 Quote My Reviews: 2022 Official Review - Edel SMS Wedges 2021 Official Review - Tommy Armour Impact 3 Putter 2020 Official Member Review - BagBoy Chiller Cart Bag Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Honma TR21 4 Wood - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Driver - Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme 10.5, UST helium 5 Wood - . TR21 4 Wood, Vizard 20-60 shaft. - AP1 714 5 to PW, with UST Mamiya Recoil 65 DART F3 Graphite shafts. Wedges: SM4 48*, Oil Can 52*, SM5 56* and SM6 58*, Putter: Tommy Armour 2019 Impact 3 TA 2021 Impact 2. Ball: ProV1, Smart Sensors. Shoes: a couple A couple of A couple of Adidas , Yeah I have a shoe addiction. Started at 79mph, finished 1st stage at 91mph Link to comment
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Same as others. Wont bother me. I started this year doing more analysis on Google earth. I now have crib sheets for 3 courses with my clubs yardages and then tee shots for each hole with aim location. Just one less thing to now think about on the course and I can enjoy my round better. 1 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/2" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue 2021 Phantom X5 35" Ball: Z Star XV (back up balls ProV1 Left Dot, Vero X1, proV1) Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 115 in the MGS Speed Challenge TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment
edingc Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, TR1PTIK said: I think I'm with the majority in that it wouldn't affect me much as long as I'm prepared. Unless it's a course I frequent and already have a solid strategy for I usually try to prepare for my rounds using Google Earth or something and write down some notes to take to the course (a recent practice that I've found some success with). Having to start on 10 instead of 1 in most cases won't be too impactful, but in others can up the stress level and might mean a more strategic play off the tee. For example, #1 at Southern Oaks - where I spend most of my time - is a short Par 5 with an open tee shot and easy approach (most of the time). However, #10 is a much tighter Par 4 with trees on both sides and OB on both sides beyond those trees. The fairway slopes left-to-right most of the way and the green slopes heavily right-to-left. If it weren't for my familiarity with the course, I think I would feel a significant amount more pressure hitting my first shot of the day off #10 than #1. #1 Tee Shot at Southern Oaks: #10 Tee Shot at Southern Oaks: Similar situation for me, No. 1 is much more forgiving than No. 10. When I play nine I usually play the back so it's not the end of the world to tee off there, but on my first few swings of the morning I'd much rather take No. 1's tee shot than 10's. 2 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 6.7 / Anti-Cap: 12.8 (Last Updated Oct. 13, 2022) Driver: Callaway Epic Max LS (9°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Club Champion Fitting 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", UST Mamiya Recoil 110 F5 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment
Jnoble89 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I personally prefer the back 9 at my local course, so am always excited to start on 10 haha! Longer, more driver friendly compared to the front 9 as well, and the hole 1 tee shot is a 3 wood that needs to be placed well so that you don't fly the fairway and punch out from the trees. I would say it would be course to course for me, but mentally it doesn't impact me. 1 Quote Unofficial Craftsman Golf Head Cover Review TSi3 9* - Tensei White AV Raw Stiff Flex Sim2 Max 15* - UST Mamiya LIN-Q Purple 6F4 Burner Superfast 2.0 Rescue 18* RSi 1 4-PW Spider Tour Putter Link to comment
GaryF Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 It really doesn’t matter to me. To me, golf is about adjusting to the unexpected, taking your best shot then moving on. I try not to let things get to me. If I have a bad shot, I might get mad/frustrated...drop my club, etc, but it’s over in 15-20 seconds. One group I play with occasionally, I sometimes get paired with a guy who lets everything bother him (not saying this about the OP). Great guy away from the course, but usually mad/upset throughout play, and it’s no fun being around. Details for another time/thread. 1 Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3 : Rescue 3 & 4, Aldila Reax 65 S : G15 5i -SW, AMT S Iron A Nelson: 58 deg, LB : Putter, 2i B60 : Q-Star Tour Link to comment
Berg Ryman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Tiftaaft said: My course was originally designed with the nine's flopped... so what is now 9 was the finishing hole, and what is now 18 was the turn. So when I go off the back to start my round... I consider it playing the course the way the designer intended it... before management decided to make a change . My course is interesting... with most of the current front nine playing with a fade bias, and most of the current back nine playing with a draw bias... so just getting my mind right to attack the course with the swing I brought that day is really the only difference... We also have a weekly men's club event that is a shotgun start... so even the two nines sometimes aren't played consecutively... Once I'm in the round... I play each hole individually. So, same here. and our nines have flipped since I started playing them. My hatred is that it's par 35 on one side, par 37 on the other, so my scoring average would have been lower in high school has the nines been the way they currently are because the now front par 35, back when I was in school, as the side to score on. 1 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag ST180, 10.5, Kuro Kage Silver TINI Dual Core 60-S Epic Flash Sub Zero, 15*, Kuro Kage Silver TINI Dual Core 60-S CBX119 18* Hybrid, Project X Evenflow Blue, 6.0 JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Smart Sole 4.0 C, DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue SIK Golf Flo-C Z-Star XV Divide Link to comment
GolfSpy_BOS Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 It wouldn't make a difference for me. If I know a week ahead of time I'm going to be playing I've played the whole course many many times in my head already... 1, 10, or a shotgun start wouldn't throw me off. What throws me off is if I get to the course and see "Range Closed" when I was planning on getting loose. 3 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S KING Forged Tec 5-GW - Nippon Modus 120X | KING MIM Black 52.12C, 56.10V, 60.04W - Nippon Modus 125 Wedge ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Traverse | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment
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