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I watched this guest video from Genevieve Ling on GolfSidekicks youtube channel and it made me think about keeping better stats for myself. I own a ShotScope V2 so that helps but what about the stats kept on the scorecard? This video made me think more about what additional stats I should keep.

What stats do you keep and what do you think are the most useful stats for amateur to keep?

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I am also a follower of the Baus. But I do take a different approach to stat keeping than most. Though all stats can be tracked through the GHIN app.

I track "good drives'. I'm on public courses 95% of the time, the rough isn't penal, so I don't really care about hitting fairways. As long as I have an unobstructed second shot that is roughly the distance I think I should have, it's a good drive.

I track GIR, but I expand it. If I can use a putter and I'm on the fringe or front apron, it's a GIR.

I track putts, & a I put a tick mark down for any Up & Downs. 

The last two rounds I looked back at the score card to seee where I made a mistake. Mistakes are 3 putts, bogeys with wedge, or on a par 5, or any double bogey.

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I pretty much do Shot Scope exclusively but wonder if the data is all that useful to me.

I look at the decade 5 as I think that gives a good indication for improvement.

prior to both my coach had me track: FW and if I have a clear shot to the green, approach distance, GIR, nGIR, putts, putt distances, 

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Pretty much GIR and putts for me if its just me and not a match ahppening with other stakes.

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With Arccos, the stats are endless...  Still loving it.

I am finding the detailed approach and short game / putting stats very interesting.

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I track fairways, GIR and putts.

 

Fairway is fairway, GIR is on the green, and putts are on the green, not the fringe.

 

Have used a Garmin S62 for about 7 rounds so far, and also it keeps track of distances, provided that I input the club for the shot used.

 

Did this just for data tracking as I used a few different driver/head shaft combinations and wanted to make the best choice when it came time to decide which combination would be in the bag, and to also dial in iron distances when I put another set in play earlier this season.

 

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Every card is score, putts, fairways & greens.  That's all I really need for my simple mind.

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I just threw away my most recent scorecard, but here's a look at what I generally track during a round:

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FYI - I normally just use 5 rows and split them with a "/" but did it a little different here for simplicity.

 

Score and Putts are easy to understand, and it probably isn't difficult to figure out Fairways and Greens (R=Right, L=Left, S=Short, LG=Long). The "X"s are used to keep track of shots where I couldn't go for the green (either because of a penalty or a poor tee shot - i.e. blocked out or too far away or something).

From there, I track Chips (limiting these to shots <50 yards typically) and Penalties (the S's above = "Sand").

After that, I track Tee Club, Tee Distance, Approach Club, and Approach Distance. Tee Distance=how far the shot traveled whereas Approach Distance=how far I had to the hole. In the event I hit an unusually bad tee shot (top, chunk, directly into a tree 100 yards away, etc.) I won't record it and the same goes for "approach shots" where I don't actually have any reasonable chance of hitting the green.

 

From there, everything goes into a spreadsheet I started years ago that allows to me look at all sorts of cumulative stats:

 

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Some things change a little once they hit the spreadsheet - primarily penalties. Hazards are marked with a "1" while Lost Ball and OB penalties are marked with a "2" since they are stroke-and-distance penalties. Any "X"s that were marked on the GIR row automatically get recorded as DOA via a formula.

Beyond that, I have a ton of other formulas that run to calculate all sorts of things, but I mostly pay attention to putting average and the Tiger 5 used in the Decade system.

 

Also, to be clear, I only count fairways and greens if they are actually in the fairway or on the green. The DOA stat allows me to figure out if I'm giving myself opportunities at the green and anything off the green (even by inches) is recorded as a chip regardless of what club I use to keep my putting stats clean and easy to understand.

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I used to track Fairways in Regulation (if off where), Greens in Regulation (if off where) and putts through the GHIN app.  Overall, I found it interesting, but it really didn't give me the level of detail I needed to show me where I needed to work on.  Just as I started to look at shot tracking devices, I was fortunate enough to be selected as one of the MGS reviewers of the Shot Scope LX+ which includes the H4 GPS and shot tracking device.  I've just completed my 19th round with the H4 shot tracking and I've learned more about my game (strengths and weaknesses) than I could have manually collecting and analyzing shot data. 

Here is a link to my initial review of the shot tracking and analysis:  Gof2Much Initial H4 Shot Analysis Review

I found value in being able to do a deep dive into my game and highlight specific areas to improve.  For example, my GHIN-based information would say I'm an OK putter averaging 29 putts per round.  However, it's not until I dove deeper into the Shot Scope data that I found biggest issue was missing too many putts in the 9-12 foot range.  With that information I can be smarter with my practicing and focus on the correct distances.  I also found the strokes gained or lost versus golfers with similar handicaps also enlightening.   Stroked gained with respect to my handicap gave me a more realistic comparison of my game versus my handicap peers.  Plus, I could change the reference point to the next lower handicap level and see what specific areas I needed to focus on to get my game to that point. 

As I continue down this shot capture and analysis path, I'm confident the depth of game data and the ability to compare it to other golfers in my handicap peer group (and better) will be a key enabler for me to improve.

 

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I keep track of  score, fairways hit and putts. At this point in my game GIR is a real rarity but as my game improves I will be adding that was well.

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When I am tracking stats, I use several different methods.. many of them outlined above... from simple fairways/greens and putts, to using my shotscope H4 (though I have found it distracts me during play in some cases, so I only utilize it for pure practice rounds).  The watch may be a better option as it detects the club and swing without the tag/tap.  But when I'm really digging into my stats to see where I need to apply my focus... I use a take on the Mark Broadie Every Shot Counts method.  

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It is a little messy, but from this card, I can log fairways, Greens, Putts, proximity to hole, which side I'm missing on / or if I'm missing short or long from specific distances and some shot distances (mostly off the tee using the stock yardages, but could add a variable yardage due to tee movements if I wanted)... although I don't indicate which club I used for approach shots.  The biggest challenge I have is remembering to pace off the chip shots and putts so I can track those distances in my analysis.  I think I need a caddie... haha.

In the beginning (a year ago or so) I was entering the data into the Golfmetrics app, and it did some pretty cool analysis, but I started just using the raw data as it does a pretty good job highlighting where improvements could be made.  

If you are are data junkie like I am... the Mark Broadie book is a great read.  

And yes... That is a triple on the par 5 4th hole en route to my 77... 3w to the middle of the fairway, perfect lay up to 115 in front of the pond protecting the green.. cold topped my wedge into the hazard, and walked away after a three putt.. 😕  

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This is an interesting thread for me. In the past I never tracked any stats. Then after getting involved in MGS and the Forum I felt 
I should. This was going to show me what areas I needed to focus my attention on to get better right? Well we all need to decrease our proximity to the pin. I don't care how good you are, we all can do better in that area. It's not something that I'm going to loose focus on by taking a tape measure out to see if my average is 8 feet or 6 feet. So my goal is to just get as close as possible. My fairways in regulation are very good about 12 out of 14 and the one's I miss are just off and usually due to a sloped fairway. My greens in regulation are pretty good and if I miss, it's by a little and the chip usually leaves me with a 1 putt. It's rare that I three putt and my sand game is good. Fast forward to this season I came to realize (for me) that tracking everything was distracting me from complete focus on the game and I was missing out on enjoying the total golf experience. I have a lot of nature on my course between the different species of animals to the views of the mountains and such. I'm taking the experience in instead of taking notes on a score card.  Well at least until my game slips or you guys change my mind again. 🤣 

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1 hour ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

I'm taking the experience in instead of taking notes on a score card. 

I forgot to mention the other "must read"...

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I can't argue with your comments and logic Tom!

 

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I’ve been tracking the Tiger 5 

 

1. Bogeys on par 5

2. Double bogeys

3. 3 putts

4. Bogey inside 150

5. 2 chips 

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9 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

I forgot to mention the other "must read"...

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I can't argue with your comments and logic Tom!

 

Hey! I'm the Penick guy!

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1 minute ago, DiscipleofPenick said:

Hey! I'm the Penick guy!

Yes you are DOP!

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1 hour ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

This is an interesting thread for me.

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1 hour ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Then after getting involved in MGS and the Forum I felt 
I should

This is pretty much where I am at lol

1 hour ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Fast forward to this season I came to realize (for me) that tracking everything was distracting me from complete focus on the game and I was missing out on enjoying the total golf experience.

And this is what I am worried about starting all this tracking

I really appreciate everyone's input here, I think this is a pretty interesting thread also and I really hope that we can keep this thread going and see how everyone tracks.

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2 minutes ago, MyWifesSwingCoach said:

And this is what I am worried about starting all this tracking

It's all about developing a system that works for you and if that system is simply writing down a score and forgetting all the rest then it really doesn't matter as long as you're having fun and making progress towards the goals you set for yourself.

I'm sure my way of keeping stats might seem like a ton of work and overly complex to some (maybe many) but it works for me.

Also, I forgot to note that I have a H4 from Shot Scope as well. I primarily use it for club distances but do find some of their recent updates useful. I've even created a new tab in my spreadsheet for recording all the strokes gained numbers to identify trends (something SS doesn't appear to do or at least represent in an overly meaningful way).

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1 hour ago, LeftyMatt89 said:

4. Bogey inside 150

ooooh... that is a good one.  I am afraid to see my results on that stat.

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32 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

ooooh... that is a good one.  I am afraid to see my results on that stat.

I think it’s from the decade system but it’s the shits or holes when at the end of the round I am like that’s where I messed up today. 

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