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Hi gang,

 

Maybe this is a lousy idea-admittedly This is after a Night of drinking. But would it make any sense at all to junk the 12x 3 puttout Matt I have, and pair the 2 puttout trainers I have with the perfect practice perfect  Putting Matt? Read the stimp is adjustable on that vs what I have, and thus can provide more effective training.

 

Comments about what a moron I am, or better alternatives strongly encouraged.  

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16 hours ago, SteveD said:

Hi gang,

 

Maybe this is a lousy idea-admittedly This is after a Night of drinking. But would it make any sense at all to junk the 12x 3 puttout Matt I have, and pair the 2 puttout trainers I have with the perfect practice perfect  Putting Matt? Read the stimp is adjustable on that vs what I have, and thus can provide more effective training.

 

Comments about what a moron I am, or better alternatives strongly encouraged.  

What are you trying to accomplish; is it just speed adjustment?  Speed adjustment is nice, but not something that I think is mandatory.  

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3 hours ago, cnosil said:

What are you trying to accomplish; is it just speed adjustment?  Speed adjustment is nice, but not something that I think is mandatory.  

More or less. Ive heard that Matt is better than the putout one because I can play around with the stimp. So since every course has holes that are different in stimp, wouldn’t it make sense to train at different ones?

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2 hours ago, SteveD said:

More or less. Ive heard that Matt is better than the putout one because I can play around with the stimp. So since every course has holes that are different in stimp, wouldn’t it make sense to train at different ones?

Per the site you can change the speed based on the surface you place it on.  Hardwood floors would be faster than carpet.   

IMO,  I'd work on figuring things out at a single speed and then making adjustments when you get to the course.   Determine the stroke/feel that rolls the ball specific distances on your current mat and then when you get to the course figure out how far that distance is on that course and make the adjustment.   You'd also have to corelate the speed of the mat to the course which I think will require a huge amount of time.    

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14 hours ago, cnosil said:

Per the site you can change the speed based on the surface you place it on.  Hardwood floors would be faster than carpet.   

IMO,  I'd work on figuring things out at a single speed and then making adjustments when you get to the course.   Determine the stroke/feel that rolls the ball specific distances on your current mat and then when you get to the course figure out how far that distance is on that course and make the adjustment.   You'd also have to corelate the speed of the mat to the course which I think will require a huge amount of time.    

Gotcha! Only thing is, my old lady wants my Matt confined to the basement concrete floors. Not to mention a 12x 3 mat would be tough to move regardless.

The logic here is that the more speeds/stumps I can get used  to, the better I’ll be. I’ll be  joining a CC soon,  but I still assume that green speeds  can vary (greatly?) per hole. And the guy himself said that seasonal changes can influence them as well. 

Which leads me to this. I’m think I MAY have found what I’m looking for, the Varispeed:

https://www.amazon.com/VariSpeed-Putting-System-Practice-Different/dp/B01ND1OIME?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A1JG162COFTAIC

Seems to be some trade off though:

while the varispeed has adjustable stimp from 7-14 and putout is a permanent 10, the mat is smaller. 10ft x 20 inches and  I’d be replacing my puttout mat that is 12x3 ft.

I also see the puttout mat frequently on “best mat” lists, but not so much for varispeed. Am I overrating the benefits of varying speeds or should I swap the mat?

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7 hours ago, SteveD said:

I’ll be  joining a CC soon,  but I still assume that green speeds  can vary (greatly?) per hole. And the guy himself said that seasonal changes can influence them as well. 

 Am I overrating the benefits of varying speeds or should I swap the mat?

Typically courses try to keep all the greens the same speed on the same day.  There are some variations based on how sunny or shady or how well the water runs off  and over the course of the day.  You probably won't see more than a 2 on the stimp meter.    Course also alter based on weather;  fast greens in hot sunny weather are hard to maintain and in the fall they may be a little slower.

While it is nice to be able to vary speed, I think you are putting too much emphasis on needing a putting mat with variable speed especially if you are joining a CC where the speed will probably be pretty much the same.  You'd be better off matching their general speed rating.   

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

Typically courses try to keep all the greens the same speed on the same day.  There are some variations based on how sunny or shady or how well the water runs off  and over the course of the day.  You probably won't see more than a 2 on the stimp meter.    Course also alter based on weather;  fast greens in hot sunny weather are hard to maintain and in the fall they may be a little slower.

While it is nice to be able to vary speed, I think you are putting too much emphasis on needing a putting mat with variable speed especially if you are joining a CC where the speed will probably be pretty much the same.  You'd be better off matching their general speed rating.   

My man! Thanks for helping as always!

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I'm a huge fan off my puttout. Probably the best training tool I've ever had. 

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Also a big fan of the puttout.  I have the puttout mat too, not necessary but it was on sale and has helpful markings for using the puttout.  I only had space for the 6 footer and my putting from that distance has significantly improved.  Now i just need a new house with space for a longer mat to start getting better with my longer putts...

 

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Mark me down as another fan of the Puttout. I leave it set up in my finished basement year round so I can use it whenever I feel the need which is usually several times each week. I have the six foot mat and can easily switch it from laying on the carpet to laying it on a hardwood floor to change things up. 

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