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Shaft Hack - The Otto Phlex Journey


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I posted this in the PXG Gen5 thread but I thought it might be suitable for this one..

DISCLAIMER: Not a perfect swing by any stretch 😜

If anybody was curious about what the ball flight of a high-launch, high-spin 45g A flex on a 7.5° head looks like..

My aim point was the 2 palms in the back. This shot wasn't a fluke.. I could do this all night! 

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Okay, I am so intrigued with this experiment that I decided to jump down the rabbit hole with you, just not quite as deep.  I purchased a Fujikura Air Speeder Blue 45 in regular flex through eBay for $62 including shipping.  The specs on this shaft are medium spin with high launch.  This should drop me 1 flex point and approximately 20 grams in weight.  Also ordered a new adapter for the build.  

Ping G425 Max 9° w/UST MP5 L-Flex

PXG Gen 5 0311XF 8° w/Grafalloy ProLaunch 45 A-Flex

Ping G425 3 wood 14.5° w/Ventus Velocore Blue-6R tipped 1"

Cleveland Halo Launcher 5 wood 18° with Project X Cypher R

Callaway Rogue 19° hybrid regular

PXG Gen 3 0311XF 5 - G steel regular

Corey Paul wedges bent to 53° and 58°

Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11.5 putter

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8 minutes ago, David Leighton Reid said:

Okay, I am so intrigued with this experiment that I decided to jump down the rabbit hole with you, just not quite as deep.  I purchased a Fujikura Air Speeder Blue 45 in regular flex through eBay for $62 including shipping.  The specs on this shaft are medium spin with high launch.  This should drop me 1 flex point and approximately 20 grams in weight.  Also ordered a new adapter for the build.  

Out of curiosity is it coming from Arizona? I almost started this by buying this exact shaft with these exact specs from a guy here in AZ. I'm sure it's not the same guy but that would be too funny! 

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4 minutes ago, azstu324 said:

Out of curiosity is it coming from Arizona? I almost started this by buying this exact shaft with these exact specs from a guy here in AZ. I'm sure it's not the same guy but that would be too funny! 

No, not from AZ.  That would have been a crazy coincidence.  The seller on eBay is out of Alabama I believe; the profile lists Southeast, USA.  I am anxious to give this a try.  

Ping G425 Max 9° w/UST MP5 L-Flex

PXG Gen 5 0311XF 8° w/Grafalloy ProLaunch 45 A-Flex

Ping G425 3 wood 14.5° w/Ventus Velocore Blue-6R tipped 1"

Cleveland Halo Launcher 5 wood 18° with Project X Cypher R

Callaway Rogue 19° hybrid regular

PXG Gen 3 0311XF 5 - G steel regular

Corey Paul wedges bent to 53° and 58°

Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11.5 putter

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I have a slower swing speed around 90 mph. I have been using a senior flex shaft for a while now even though most companys recommend regular flex for my range. Now you've got me thinking about ordering a ladies flex shaft to experiment with!

Driver: :cobra-small: LTDx
Fairway: :taylormade-small: Sim2 Max 3HL
Fairway: :ping-small: G425 Max 9 Wood
Hybrid: :mizuno-small: 2020 CLK 5 Hybrid

Irons: :srixon-small: ZX4 6-AW
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX Zipcore 50° 54° & 58°
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I’m thinking of trying one next year in the 50 gram weight range since I game a 70g shaft now. Also thinking about R flex, but I may go to a store to swing a few because the whip of a few shafts has bothered me in the past. Going to try and save some money by testing at a store before I buy and go long term.

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22 minutes ago, tommc23 said:

I’m thinking of trying one next year in the 50 gram weight range since I game a 70g shaft now. Also thinking about R flex, but I may go to a store to swing a few because the whip of a few shafts has bothered me in the past. Going to try and save some money by testing at a store before I buy and go long term.

Yeah so this is definitely a "not for everybody" experiment. Before I got started though, I would have categorized myself as a "not for me" person.. now look where I am.. 🤣 not to get religious but I'm kind of a Paul conversion story with all of this. Initially I was totally against the Autoflex concept.. now that I've tried it out, I'm shouting this $hit from the rooftops. 

The tricky part about going to the store is having enough time to tinker. Also just making sure you have the right parameters dialed like SW, club loft, etc. No doubt the set-up is going to be whippy. That's kind of the whole premise.. it's just making sure it's a controllable whip and not a loose cannon kind of whip. 

Whatever you do and whatever the outcome please share! 

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Following this thread and thinking about the Lagshot trainer, wonder if the main benefit of the softer whippy shaft is to force the golfer to sequence better. It would require one to have that “mature backswing” Dr. Kwon talks about 

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1 hour ago, azstu324 said:

Yeah so this is definitely a "not for everybody" experiment. Before I got started though, I would have categorized myself as a "not for me" person.. now look where I am.. 🤣 not to get religious but I'm kind of a Paul conversion story with all of this. Initially I was totally against the Autoflex concept.. now that I've tried it out, I'm shouting this $hit from the rooftops. 

The tricky part about going to the store is having enough time to tinker. Also just making sure you have the right parameters dialed like SW, club loft, etc. No doubt the set-up is going to be whippy. That's kind of the whole premise.. it's just making sure it's a controllable whip and not a loose cannon kind of whip. 

Whatever you do and whatever the outcome please share! 

Oh I’m game for something whippy I just want to try a few and fine one that isn’t overly whippy. I swung a R flex hybrid recently and the shaft felt terrible. I’m wondering if dropping shaft weight and one swing weight would give me enough of the feeling like you are. I understand going 2 and the whole no flex rating through brands but I may do an in between what you are doing and what I have now.

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End of the golf season for me so had to use up my gift cards for 2022. Didn't know what to use the GC's for so wrote my pro and ordered the 44g Grafalloy Prolaunch Blue in A flex to try this out. Current game an 65g M4 (Stiff) Accra Tour Z ST in an 10.5 M2 lofted down to 8.5. Curious if I end up buying a lower lofted head to further experiment with this set up. I have played loft as low as 7 deg before without much concern for carry distance. 

Excited to try it when it arrives and I can golf again, in April/May, lol. Gonna be really hard to pry that Accra outta my hands, after increasing the SW to D6 at the beginning of the season I have been "back" to driving it extremely well. But tinkerers be tinkerers. 

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What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Taylormade M2 10.5 deg (@8.5) - Accra Tour Z M4 (future Otto Phlex Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue 44g A flex as a 2nd option)

3 wood - Mizuno 15 deg (@14) ST200 - Tensei Blue X flex

Driving iron - Taylormade GAP2 2 lo (@16) - Accra M4 hybrid shaft (39 inch), 4 Utility - Taylormade GAPR 4 lo (@20.5)

5 iron -  Mp18 MMC Fli Hi - Modus 105x - 7 iron length

Irons - (PW - 6) JPX 900 tour - Modus 105x (6 iron is 7 iron length) 

Wedges (50,55) - Vokey SM7

Wedge (60) Callaway PM Grind        

Putter: Odyssey Arm Lock Double Wide with Superstroke Wrist Lock grip at 37 inch

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24 minutes ago, Chadvb said:

But tinkerers be tinkerers. 

And welcome to a day in the life of my brain😂🤣 at times I wish I could shut it off.. but other times I'm glad I have it.. blessing/curse situation 

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1 hour ago, Rchang said:

Following this thread and thinking about the Lagshot trainer, wonder if the main benefit of the softer whippy shaft is to force the golfer to sequence better. It would require one to have that “mature backswing” Dr. Kwon talks about 

This is a great point! Since starting this and putting this shaft into play, my tempo and timing have changed all for the better. I feel like I have a better sense of my delivery and swing path than before. I'll tell anybody that if this doesn't work for you on the course, keep the shaft and now you've got your own tempo training shaft that you can just plug into your driver. You'll win either way

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Ok this is it.. I ordered 1 more shaft for the line up. I was really leaning towards the UST V2 HL f2-A.. but am digging the the GPLB so much that I figured why drastically change a good thing? 

The GWX is a collaboration shaft that Garafalloy and Golfworks put together. It appears to be their lightweight option leaning a hair more towards mid launch/spin with just a little more weight. 

This literally might be comparing the same apple to to itself.. if I were able to change the smallest of details on the PLB, it looks like it would be the GWX shaft so I gotta try it out!

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The Diamana Red Board in L flex was finished this morning.  Got it at 46 inches and dead on a D0 swing weight.

Took it to the driving range I frequent to see how it performed in relation to the Supercharged Grafalloy Pro Launch also in L flex.

Diamana was the hands down winner.  Nice high, arcing flight with just the barest hint of a draw at the height of flight. 

Distance was consistently about 10 yards further than anything I've accomplished with this driver head thus far regardless of length, flex, or swing weight.

I'm very pleased.  But, given my delight in trying things, I've got two more L flex shafts I'm going to try just to see if there's anything further I can  squeak out of this concept.

 

 

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Ping G430 SFT 3 wood and Ping G430 HL 7 wood SR flex

Ping G430 4,5,6,7 hybrids  SR flex

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34 minutes ago, Bobbers said:

The Diamana Red Board in L flex was finished this morning.  Got it at 46 inches and dead on a D0 swing weight.

Took it to the driving range I frequent to see how it performed in relation to the Supercharged Grafalloy Pro Launch also in L flex.

Diamana was the hands down winner.  Nice high, arcing flight with just the barest hint of a draw at the height of flight. 

Distance was consistently about 10 yards further than anything I've accomplished with this driver head thus far regardless of length, flex, or swing weight.

I'm very pleased.  But, given my delight in trying things, I've got two more L flex shafts I'm going to try just to see if there's anything further I can  squeak out of this concept.

 

 

Sounds like you're getting the same taste in your mouth that I have.. pure deliciousness! 😜

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I never swung a stiff shaft until a fitter set me up with my irons.

I have Itobori Mxh . I thought I bought the wrong shaft.

until I started working hard on Stack and tilt swing and staying committed to it.

my swing speed is much faster and I’m keeping the stiff  Auto Flex irons , and staying with a regular shaft driver and hybrid 4 wood.

I love my clubs take a peek

 

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Here's my take. Most, if not all golfers would benefit from lighter and more limber shafts. The objective is to keep the ball in play and in good position for the next shot. I don't chase distance anymore. I'd recommend spending time on finding good wedges and a well-fitted putter. Games are won or lost from 100 yards in, not off the tee.

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On 9/29/2022 at 6:23 PM, Bobbers said:

Still had good results with the Grafalloy Supercharged Pro Launch during my round today.  Came home to find a Diamana Red Board in L flex arrived while I was on the course.  Got an adapter and an extension added and the epoxy should be set by tomorrow.  Hopefully  time allows a quick trip to the range to see what happens.

So far so good.

I found a Grafalloy Supercharged Pro Launch L in my golf club closet. Was going to use it to build a driver for my daughter and didn’t get around to it yet. I’ll join the Otto Phlex club soon (and, yes, I’m still going to build her driver).

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I'm going to give it a try in my spare driver head, and Epic Speed Max LS. I normally game a PIng 425 LST 10.5 set to 9, with an Aldila Rogue Silver 130msi. I don't use driver that much anymore, as I started playing a Taylormade Mini 300, and can get that well over 300 yards and much more accurate and consistent than the Ping. The distance isn't that big between the two, so I'd like to see if this experiment can get me a few yards more over the Mini 300 to make it worth using. My swing speed with my playing speed is around 115, sometimes getting it up to 120 if I step on it slightly. I bought the Grafalloy pro launch blue in the 40 gram version, A flex. Will report my findings when I get the set up.

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3 hours ago, officedog said:

Here's my take. Most, if not all golfers would benefit from lighter and more limber shafts. The objective is to keep the ball in play and in good position for the next shot. I don't chase distance anymore. I'd recommend spending time on finding good wedges and a well-fitted putter. Games are won or lost from 100 yards in, not off the tee.

I completely agree with you on this. I've been fortunate to have decent distance on my side so chasing more distance hasn't been an objective of mine. I'm sure we all have our own motives to try a project like this. Some might like more distance to help create more optimal 2nd shots. While I don't necessarily need more distance, it sure would be nice to find the middle of the fairway more often and reduce or even eliminate my damaging misses. 

Today's round for example, my exec course only has 6 par 4's. I split the fairway on all 6 which I've never done in 6 years of playing there. Now for the really fun part, I also hit each fairway a good 10-20 yds longer than I ever have. Was I doing anything differently from what I've done in the past 6 years other than just hitting the ball better? Nope. Was my 2nd and more important shot easier to manage and place within closer proximity to the hole? Yessir! Was I sad about my extra distance that I didn't do anything differently to gain? No way! 😜

So while the drive isn't as important as the next few shots, it can definitely help make a better outcome possible if you can find that consistency and gain confidence off the tee. That's what I'm chasing 😬 

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25 minutes ago, BadgerRick said:

I'm going to give it a try in my spare driver head, and Epic Speed Max LS. I normally game a PIng 425 LST 10.5 set to 9, with an Aldila Rogue Silver 130msi. I don't use driver that much anymore, as I started playing a Taylormade Mini 300, and can get that well over 300 yards and much more accurate and consistent than the Ping. The distance isn't that big between the two, so I'd like to see if this experiment can get me a few yards more over the Mini 300 to make it worth using. My swing speed with my playing speed is around 115, sometimes getting it up to 120 if I step on it slightly. I bought the Grafalloy pro launch blue in the 40 gram version, A flex. Will report my findings when I get the set up.

That's a pretty hefty SS man. You may want to go R flex. Either that or tip the A 1" to stiffen it up. I clipped 1/2" off the tip of mine and I feel it plays perfectly to my 110-112 mph. 

I will say though that I've put a few heater swings on the A flex and never did I feel like it was going to snap or was just too loose. It's making out to be a hell of a shaft! So you never know. 

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I will say that after having typed whip and whippy so many times in this thread, my phone algorithm thinks I'm interested in frosting.. I mean it's not wrong.. but it definitely is confused

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5 hours ago, azstu324 said:

I will say that after having typed whip and whippy so many times in this thread, my phone algorithm thinks I'm interested in frosting.. I mean it's not wrong.. but it definitely is confused

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Guess you need to bake a cake that needs whipped icing 😂😂😂

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6 hours ago, azstu324 said:

I will say that after having typed whip and whippy so many times in this thread, my phone algorithm thinks I'm interested in frosting.. I mean it's not wrong.. but it definitely is confused

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Ping G430 4,5,6,7 hybrids  SR flex

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On 9/28/2022 at 10:39 PM, pbclubdude said:

Autoflex is an amazing shaft. It requires the user to have an even tempo and a smooth direction change. Once that's done however its turn and burn. For me, long, dead straight and money well spent. It is for once, a {way} overpriced and overhyped golf gadget that works. For me it works as advertised. 

The Graffaloy PLB are on my 3 and 5 woods. They are my attempts to inexpensively replicate the Autoflex. They work great but are not Autoflex. However,it is an amazing shaft and I encourage everyone to pick it up in regular flex if you are used to stiff and give it a try. For around $60 it is inexpensive and very underrated imo. Do not cut the tip. Just butt trim it to 46". The real big difference between the two is the butt end of Autoflex is almost as flexible as the tip end. The Graffaloy is much more conventional with a stiffer butt end, particularly in relation to the tip end. I believe it can tolerate a less smooth change in direction, making it more "universal" in appeal than Autoflex, not to mention the price difference.

The PLB will require some reps to get used to the flex into impact. Let me tell you, when you get it right it is just oh so pure feeling. 

Dechambeau uses a regular flex for long drive competition. There is something to it.

Lastly in my experience both shafts play well with standard head weights. I play a Ping G425 Max on mine. Rip it. A lot. 

Do you know the swing weight of your G425 with the Autoflex. I may try to build $50 version with mine. 
thanks

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3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 

7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 

3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19

8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19

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10 hours ago, BadgerRick said:

I'm going to give it a try in my spare driver head, and Epic Speed Max LS. I normally game a PIng 425 LST 10.5 set to 9, with an Aldila Rogue Silver 130msi. I don't use driver that much anymore, as I started playing a Taylormade Mini 300, and can get that well over 300 yards and much more accurate and consistent than the Ping. The distance isn't that big between the two, so I'd like to see if this experiment can get me a few yards more over the Mini 300 to make it worth using. My swing speed with my playing speed is around 115, sometimes getting it up to 120 if I step on it slightly. I bought the Grafalloy pro launch blue in the 40 gram version, A flex. Will report my findings when I get the set up.

 

9 hours ago, azstu324 said:

That's a pretty hefty SS man. You may want to go R flex. Either that or tip the A 1" to stiffen it up. I clipped 1/2" off the tip of mine and I feel it plays perfectly to my 110-112 mph. 

I will say though that I've put a few heater swings on the A flex and never did I feel like it was going to snap or was just too loose. It's making out to be a hell of a shaft! So you never know. 

That's what I was thinking as I read the post.  All that was communicated was the name of the current shaft and not the weight or flex of the current shaft.   If he is playing the 60 gram Stiff then the logic of the experiment says go 40 gram Senior.

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9 minutes ago, cnosil said:

 

That's what I was thinking as I read the post.  All that was communicated was the name of the current shaft and not the weight or flex of the current shaft.   If he is playing the 60 gram Stiff then the logic of the experiment says go 40 gram Senior.

See there I go.. still stuck in conventional wisdom land. It's a hard place to leave. I think I just assumed 115++mph.. must be XS+ (SMH at myself)😜

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