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8 hours ago, Bang60 said:

One thing I'm 100% positively certain of is when using a lady's 40gram shaft that "LOW loft" is key, I played with a visitor to my club and he let me hit one drive with his 12deg 50gram driver lady flex shaft that went straight up with distance of 120 metres. I've now got a pinched nerve behind my left shoulder that's killing me even though I'm taking ibuprofen and paracetamol. I'm not sure when I'll be ready to hit balls again as it's extreme paid when I turn to the right...

I hope you feel better and soon, my friend.  I myself find it as frustrating as all get out when I'm on the sidelines during our golf season for any reason.

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16 hours ago, Bobbers said:

My hope, and I know I speak only for myself, is that any effort in this area would include some of us in the 70-80 mph driver swing speed.  Age is a "******" but it does eventually get us all if we're lucky enough to hang around.

I read a LOT of what gets posted here and on other sites.  I have a hard time finding anyone, regardless of age/handicap that doesn't have "an average drive for me is 220-240" on up to "my typical drive in the 295+ carry range".  Hard to express how disheartening that is.  You'll note in earlier posts how pleased I am that the O-PH concept gets me around 175-180 yards; up from 160-165...

But when I look at the "retro" videos that compare an older driver with it's new counterpart I see numbers for the "slow swing speed/below 90 mph" showing that even with the new driver the average drive is in the 180 yard range.

Nope, you speak for at least for me also Bobbers.  Lower 80's swing speed, 200 avg drive, (on a good day.).

Still great fun following this article.  Dove down this rabbit hole months ago.  My swing is way less than ideal so have not experienced the results of others.  Haven't given up on OP, just taking a few steps back to see if I can develope a litte rhythm, (key the music.)

 

 

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1 minute ago, Gemba2 said:

Nope, you speak for at least for me also Bobbers.  Lower 80's swing speed, 200 avg drive, (on a good day.).

Still great fun following this article.  Dove down this rabbit hole months ago.  My swing is way less than ideal so have not experienced the results of others.  Haven't given up on OP, just taking a few steps back to see if I can develope a litte rhythm, (key the music.)

 

 

I’m also following this thread and have changed Driver and hybrid with no difference.  Still a work in progress.

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18 hours ago, Bobbers said:

My hope, and I know I speak only for myself, is that any effort in this area would include some of us in the 70-80 mph driver swing speed.  Age is a "******" but it does eventually get us all if we're lucky enough to hang around.

I read a LOT of what gets posted here and on other sites.  I have a hard time finding anyone, regardless of age/handicap that doesn't have "an average drive for me is 220-240" on up to "my typical drive in the 295+ carry range".  Hard to express how disheartening that is.  You'll note in earlier posts how pleased I am that the O-PH concept gets me around 175-180 yards; up from 160-165...

But when I look at the "retro" videos that compare an older driver with it's new counterpart I see numbers for the "slow swing speed/below 90 mph" showing that even with the new driver the average drive is in the 180 yard range.

My dad is in the same speed range, had him try my PLB shaft in my old g400 head, set to 11,5 degrees. He got at least a 15 yard increase in carry. He was so happy with the results that he ordered one right away. Will first try it in his GBB Epic head, will be interesting to see if the gain holds up with that.

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I wanted to get out for a few more sessions to do some trial and error, however with colder temps, sick wife, sick baby, work, dogs, mgs and now travel then christmas and more work looks like January I'll be back on it! Thankfully courses are open year round so I'll still be able to get some time in, but won't be for likely another month until I swing a club again. 

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Well folks, you will benefit from my mistake. I was taking an adapter off an Evenflow Senio 40 gram shaft and a melted the tip. Doesn’t seem to be damaged an inch up so I tipped it an inch. I’ll report back what that does to our Otto Phlex journey. Maybe my anger/frustration with my impatience (not enough heat when I made the first twist) will turn into something great. We’ll see. 

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47 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I wanted to get out for a few more sessions to do some trial and error, however with colder temps, sick wife, sick baby, work, dogs, mgs and now travel then christmas and more work looks like January I'll be back on it! Thankfully courses are open year round so I'll still be able to get some time in, but won't be for likely another month until I swing a club again. 

Man that's a full plate. Take care of that fam! Golf.. and MGS will always be here. 

 

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8 hours ago, Bobbers said:

I hope you feel better and soon, my friend.  I myself find it as frustrating as all get out when I'm on the sidelines during our golf season for any reason.

Hey @Bobbers appreciate your kind words my friend, I don't deal well with my body letting me down at all lol. I started yesterday on Magnesium Citrate a friend recommends and found good feedback online, have to say it's taken the edge off so hoping I'm back real soon.

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1 hour ago, DukeStKing said:

Well folks, you will benefit from my mistake. I was taking an adapter off an Evenflow Senio 40 gram shaft and a melted the tip. Doesn’t seem to be damaged an inch up so I tipped it an inch. I’ll report back what that does to our Otto Phlex journey. Maybe my anger/frustration with my impatience (not enough heat when I made the first twist) will turn into something great. We’ll see. 

Ahhh graphite don't like the twist mate, I learnt that the hard way just as you've done lol...

This is my shafts extraction tool that works like a charm, plus it's so cheap and using the F clamp I used it on the Dinner table but don't tell Wifey...

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2 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I wanted to get out for a few more sessions to do some trial and error, however with colder temps, sick wife, sick baby, work, dogs, mgs and now travel then christmas and more work looks like January I'll be back on it! Thankfully courses are open year round so I'll still be able to get some time in, but won't be for likely another month until I swing a club again. 

You got more issues than a one arm paperhanger, but sick family comes first take care...

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Coming from Sub70 659 Combo with KBS 130x - just went to the range and tried out my new Honma TW-X irons with graphite Vizard 85g Reg. 
Oh man these babies are stupid good. Feel is amazing, forgiving, and looooong. The lighter, softer shafts didn’t feel too whippy. As long as I kept a smooth tempo going these things were buttoned, and flew forever- like it kicked into another gear mid flight with a nice little draw. Something I couldn’t really get with the KBS xstiff. Only when I got aggressive and quick did I fan a couple out left with a slice, and I could definitely feel the club head left open. I’m going to take them out Tuesday for my round with my weekly group on my Birthday and we’ll see how they are on the course. Will have to get used to being about a club longer in distance, but I was landing the pitching wedge in the same spot every time. So far so money. 

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3 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I wanted to get out for a few more sessions to do some trial and error, however with colder temps, sick wife, sick baby, work, dogs, mgs and now travel then christmas and more work looks like January I'll be back on it! Thankfully courses are open year round so I'll still be able to get some time in, but won't be for likely another month until I swing a club again. 

Take good care, the thread will undoubtedly be here and active when your time permits.  Best wishes for health for you and your whole family.

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PXG 0211 5 and 7 Woods  Paderson Kinetixx A Flex

PXG 0211 5 and 5 Hybrids  MMT A Flex

Cobra 7 Hybrid  A Flex

PXG 8,9,PW,GW Vista Pro A Flex

Cleveland CBX 54/12

Edel EAS 4 with BGT Stability Tour Shaft

 

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54 minutes ago, FLefty18 said:

Coming from Sub70 659 Combo with KBS 130x - just went to the range and tried out my new Honma TW-X irons with graphite Vizard 85g Reg. 
Oh man these babies are stupid good. Feel is amazing, forgiving, and looooong. The lighter, softer shafts didn’t feel too whippy. As long as I kept a smooth tempo going these things were buttoned, and flew forever- like it kicked into another gear mid flight with a nice little draw. Something I couldn’t really get with the KBS xstiff. Only when I got aggressive and quick did I fan a couple out left with a slice, and I could definitely feel the club head left open. I’m going to take them out Tuesday for my round with my weekly group on my Birthday and we’ll see how they are on the course. Will have to get used to being about a club longer in distance, but I was landing the pitching wedge in the same spot every time. So far so money. 

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Happy almost birthday.  LOVE the "F Bomb" putter cover, where'd it come from?  And please keep us posted on your round with the new sticks.

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PXG 0211  12*  Paderson Kinetixx A flex

PXG 0211 5 and 7 Woods  Paderson Kinetixx A Flex

PXG 0211 5 and 5 Hybrids  MMT A Flex

Cobra 7 Hybrid  A Flex

PXG 8,9,PW,GW Vista Pro A Flex

Cleveland CBX 54/12

Edel EAS 4 with BGT Stability Tour Shaft

 

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3 minutes ago, Bobbers said:

Happy almost birthday.  LOVE the "F Bomb" putter cover, where'd it come from?  And please keep us posted on your round with the new sticks.

Think I just got it on eBay a while back, same with the Skull Flag driver cover. 

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58 minutes ago, FLefty18 said:

Coming from Sub70 659 Combo with KBS 130x - just went to the range and tried out my new Honma TW-X irons with graphite Vizard 85g Reg. 
Oh man these babies are stupid good. Feel is amazing, forgiving, and looooong. The lighter, softer shafts didn’t feel too whippy. As long as I kept a smooth tempo going these things were buttoned, and flew forever- like it kicked into another gear mid flight with a nice little draw. Something I couldn’t really get with the KBS xstiff. Only when I got aggressive and quick did I fan a couple out left with a slice, and I could definitely feel the club head left open. I’m going to take them out Tuesday for my round with my weekly group on my Birthday and we’ll see how they are on the course. Will have to get used to being about a club longer in distance, but I was landing the pitching wedge in the same spot every time. So far so money. 

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This is awesome feedback! I'm on the fence about going to Reg flex with this MGS Nippon shaft test but I think this might just nudge me in that direction. I've been playing S++ in a pretty mid flight "flighted" set i.e. lower flying short irons, higher long irons, etc. I'm going to go to PGATSS this weekend and do a "mock" setup with both the R and S to see which one plays better. I'm really hoping the R flex does well soni can cross-pollinate the Nippon testing thread with the OttoPhlex thread. 

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1 hour ago, azstu324 said:

This is awesome feedback! I'm on the fence about going to Reg flex with this MGS Nippon shaft test but I think this might just nudge me in that direction. I've been playing S++ in a pretty mid flight "flighted" set i.e. lower flying short irons, higher long irons, etc. I'm going to go to PGATSS this weekend and do a "mock" setup with both the R and S to see which one plays better. I'm really hoping the R flex does well soni can cross-pollinate the Nippon testing thread with the OttoPhlex thread. 

My guess is if you keep the same tempo as with the driver you'll be pleasantly shocked at what the R flex does for you.

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PXG 0211 5 and 7 Woods  Paderson Kinetixx A Flex

PXG 0211 5 and 5 Hybrids  MMT A Flex

Cobra 7 Hybrid  A Flex

PXG 8,9,PW,GW Vista Pro A Flex

Cleveland CBX 54/12

Edel EAS 4 with BGT Stability Tour Shaft

 

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3 hours ago, azstu324 said:

This is awesome feedback! I'm on the fence about going to Reg flex with this MGS Nippon shaft test but I think this might just nudge me in that direction. I've been playing S++ in a pretty mid flight "flighted" set i.e. lower flying short irons, higher long irons, etc. I'm going to go to PGATSS this weekend and do a "mock" setup with both the R and S to see which one plays better. I'm really hoping the R flex does well soni can cross-pollinate the Nippon testing thread with the OttoPhlex thread. 

Use the lowest loft setting, that's getting good results too from many. Let's know what works for you?

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Had a good day on the course today with Grafalloy Pro Launch today. Drives were mostly straight and hit a few bombs. It was about 40 degrees outside today so having an easy to swing shaft was a big bonus today. Lost one left, lost one right and the rest were all super straight. Had a few 290+ drives which is pretty good for me. Of course, I am now going to loft it down and drop the weight in the back as I hit a few high spinny ones. Still going to experiment for a while but this is a dramatic improvement over the first time out. 

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45 minutes ago, vandyland said:

Had a good day on the course today with Grafalloy Pro Launch today. Drives were mostly straight and hit a few bombs. It was about 40 degrees outside today so having an easy to swing shaft was a big bonus today. Lost one left, lost one right and the rest were all super straight. Had a few 290+ drives which is pretty good for me. Of course, I am now going to loft it down and drop the weight in the back as I hit a few high spinny ones. Still going to experiment for a while but this is a dramatic improvement over the first time out. 

Nice update! 

So in essence, we're all fitting ourselves into these shaft and head combos because regular fitting pro's aren't likely to ever recommend or even know about this path. 

#trailblazingsob's! 😜

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2 hours ago, azstu324 said:

Nice update! 

So in essence, we're all fitting ourselves into these shaft and head combos because regular fitting pro's aren't likely to ever recommend or even know about this path. 

#trailblazingsob's! 😜

My apologies telling the man who knows what we want to know, Ooooopsjust a senior moment...

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