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2 hours ago, LICC said:

Pumpkin Ridge.

 

Liv is paying a shed load of cash to use this course so would seem silly to try backing out, cutting your nose off to spite their collective faces lol....

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They just announced who is going to be playing in the first event.

Notable names: DJ, Talor Gooch, Kevin Na, Louis, Poulter, Garcia and Westwood. See players list below.

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I really like Talor Gooch and it sucks to see him leave the PGA tour. Also, not a good look for DJ based off these comments...

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Major dominos Gonna happen. Gooch is an interesting one young and successful in the PGA. DJ is going to create a wave I think

money is on Fowler going soon

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Had a feeling Kevin Na was going .. 

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Gotta say, not surprised at all about a few of these.  Honestly, DJ going isn't surprising either, the guy hasn't really cared about anything ever, so this move is very on-brand. Disappointed by Gooch for sure. I guess people will really do just about anything to set themselves and their family up for life.  Which to a certain extent I get but seems like a justification. 

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The more interesting part to me with DJ is his RBC sponsorship. I would think given he is missing one of their 2 premier events they will drop him. Mcdowell is another RBC guy who will be there. 

The fact this is all right before the US Open will surely create a stir as well. 

Would love to hear Brooks' comments on his brother going to play too.

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8 hours ago, Mtbryant01 said:

They just announced who is going to be playing in the first event.

Notable names: DJ, Talor Gooch, Kevin Na, Louis, Poulter, Garcia and Westwood. See players list below.

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I really like Talor Gooch and it sucks to see him leave the PGA tour. Also, not a good look for DJ based off these comments...

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Your move PGA tour.

Disappointed DJ chose to play, but he has been selling out to the Saudis for years so not surprised. Good riddance. 

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9 hours ago, Shankster said:

There are a few names I find strange.  Unless the DP World Tour doesn’t care.  I pegged Poults, Sergio, and Westy as Ryder Cup Captains at some point…. Wonder if that will hurt those chances.

I haven’t seen anything from DP tour banning players if they played in LIV events. Also the DP tour has lots of ties to Saudi Arabia so they probably don’t care as much.

8 hours ago, Lacassem said:

Major dominos Gonna happen. Gooch is an interesting one young and successful in the PGA. DJ is going to create a wave I think

money is on Fowler going soon

Gooch is an interesting name and has been ok on the pga tour. The money is better for him on the LIV tour. 

4 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

The more interesting part to me with DJ is his RBC sponsorship. I would think given he is missing one of their 2 premier events they will drop him. Mcdowell is another RBC guy who will be there. 

The fact this is all right before the US Open will surely create a stir as well. 

Would love to hear Brooks' comments on his brother going to play too.

RBC dropped DJ. Chase has had no real success playing pro golf, him going somewhere for the money makes financial sense and I can’t imagine brooks cares that his brother is chasing his dream on another tour.


 

 

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@RickyBobby_PR was it confirmed they dropped him? At least to me the wording didn't say it specifically that they were. Or maybe I was just reading the wording a little improperly. 

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Not surprised by any names on the list. If this was 3-4 months ago and DJs name appeared I would be shocked. But I trust his thoughts and opinions about as far as I can throw him. He’s in his own world and only cares about DJ.

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9 hours ago, Lacassem said:

Major dominos Gonna happen. Gooch is an interesting one young and successful in the PGA. DJ is going to create a wave I think

money is on Fowler going soon

All I see here is DJ just made it OK for others to go. 
 

Pat Perez said it best. You’re the host of something like Pebble Pro Am.  No shot the Tour says DJ can’t play.  Sponsors would sprint away from the event  

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@RickyBobby_PR was it confirmed they dropped him? At least to me the wording didn't say it specifically that they were. Or maybe I was just reading the wording a little improperly. 

the way I read it is that they are dropping him. When I read we wish him well that signals the end. Similar to other sports or entertain went the company/brand say we wish him/her well in future endeavors.

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Will I watch? I just watched 3 nights of 17 & 18 year olds I've never heard of on golf channel, so yeah I'll watch. Does that mean I'm okay with the atrocities committed by the regime over there? NO! The constant all or nothing stances that social media has created is beyond tiring. 

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2 minutes ago, bens197 said:

All I see here is DJ just made it OK for others to go. 
 

Pat Perez said it best. You’re the host of something like Pebble Pro Am.  No shot the Tour says DJ can’t play.  Sponsors would sprint away from the event  

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2 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

the way I read it is that they are dropping him. When I read we wish him well that signals the end. Similar to other sports or entertain went the company/brand say we wish him/her well in future endeavors.

That is true. My first take on it was a little different thinking dissapointed was too light. If I was dropping someone I believe I would have said unacceptable. Will be good to get some more clarity on it, but I do believe it could go both ways. 

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1 minute ago, Shankster said:

Maybe D.J. And the “LIV Boys” are sick of playing the same 48-50 courses all year. Every year.

From what I gather the courses these events being hosted at are less then impressive. However thats more from my listening to the NLU crew. 

For me personally although the course of course matters, given coverage and how it is shown it matters a lot less. I'm sure if I was there live it would matter more, but coverage never seems to do courses justice so maybe this could play well for LIV?

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2 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

From what I gather the courses these events being hosted at are less then impressive. However thats more from my listening to the NLU crew. 

For me personally although the course of course matters, given coverage and how it is shown it matters a lot less. I'm sure if I was there live it would matter more, but coverage never seems to do courses justice so maybe this could play well for LIV?

Not trying to be a jerk.  But I could care less what NLU has to say.  😐

I will agree coverage would help. 

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12 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

That is true. My first take on it was a little different thinking dissapointed was too light. If I was dropping someone I believe I would have said unacceptable. Will be good to get some more clarity on it, but I do agree it could go both ways. 

Agree. More clarification is probably needed. Also of note is that DJ has played in other Saudi events without the RBC logo anywhere on him. So they are probably against any support for Saudi hosted events from any tour and him breaking from the pga tour event could be the end

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Not trying to be a jerk.  But I could care less what NLU has to say.  😐

I will agree coverage would help. 

Haha not being a jerk at all. I enjoy them and their content whether it be podcasts or videos. They have seen/played enough courses they should have a good feel for them so I tend to trust their judgement. It is kinda what they made their block on. 

That being said I'm more then open to other opinions if anyone has played them or knows more about them!

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6 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Haha not being a jerk at all. I enjoy them and their content whether it be podcasts or videos. They have seen/played enough courses they should have a good feel for them so I tend to trust their judgement. It is kinda what they made their block on. 

That being said I'm more then open to other opinions if anyone has played them or knows more about them!

It is probably my jealousy at the fact they got to play courses us mortals can’t touch. Yet they are mortals too.

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Kind of forgot that DJ is already 37, so this makes a lot more sense than I initially thought. He's probably a little young, but getting into that age group that can compete, but won't win very often on the PGA. Like the 4 or 5 big name Euro guys that jumped he's just looking for big paydays before the end. Talor Gooch is a bit of a surprise given the strides he's made, he's young, and a top 50 player. The amateur guys are also a little surprising, but maybe they aren't thinking about a career as a pro. Maybe they just want to play for a few years, make a few million, and go do something else. And a guy like Chase Kopeka isn't surprising either. Why bounce between PGA & Korn Ferry when, even if you're the worst guy in the field, you're getting a guaranteed paycheck.

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32 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Not trying to be a jerk.  But I could care less what NLU has to say.  😐

I laughed out loud at this because I feel the exact same…

 

Also, looks like RBC cut ties with DJ…

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29 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Not trying to be a jerk.  But I could care less what NLU has to say.  😐

I laughed out loud at this because I feel the exact same…

 

Also, looks like RBC cut ties with DJ…

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46 minutes ago, Shankster said:

It is probably my jealousy at the fact they got to play courses us mortals can’t touch. Yet they are mortals too.

I was gonna say I wish I could get sick of 50 courses lol, mere mortals we are 

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1 hour ago, Headhammer said:

Will I watch? I just watched 3 nights of 17 & 18 year olds I've never heard of on golf channel, so yeah I'll watch. Does that mean I'm okay with the atrocities committed by the regime over there? NO! The constant all or nothing stances that social media has created is beyond tiring. 

Are we even going to be able to watch? I havent seen anything on tv rights or production/broadcast. Im guessing its going to be on youtube? If so, I hope they keep the comments going live. 

Also, remember this is going to be a team event where teams are drafted and different every week. 

1 hour ago, Shankster said:

Not trying to be a jerk.  But I could care less what NLU has to say.  😐

I will agree coverage would help. 

I hear you, but I do tend to agree with them that courses like Southern Hills, Brookline, etc. are much more interesting to watch and more full of drama than TPC Craig Ranch. And looking at the list of courses, it looks like LIV is going to be full of Craig Ranch type courses. If you disagree, can you remember the par 3s at Craig Ranch or par 3s at Whistling Straits...

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18 minutes ago, Hobert said:

Do we expect PGA to issue suspensions?

Yeah I think so, but know that they don't have to and probably won't make these suspensions public. It will have to come from the players. This is going to end up in court. Allegedly Monahan was in DC a few weeks ago, probably lobbying for some support for updates to anti trust.

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