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6 hours ago, Puttingmatt said:

I like LIV Golf, especially when I can watch it, then catch up on the Honda thru rebroadcast on Golf Channel, 

Funny, I recognized almost every player on the LIV broadcast, Honda, Not so much

 

 

Yeah I like watching on utube Liv golf too, but today they had a stack of commercials every 10mins "CW Sports".... That's why I cancelled skysport in NZ, guess I'm back to watching utube replay and or highlights... c'mon Greg...

I’m a hacker who loves nothing more than to change how I play, be that grips shafts and heads its all fair game lol…

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3 hours ago, berkeleybob said:

Just watched Day 2 highlights on YouTube and had some random observations:

  • Because of the shotgun format, I couldn’t follow how the shots mattered since there’s no real context consistently conveyed, as in, someone might be climbing the leaderboard, but I couldn’t tell how many holes are left to play.
  • Royalty-free house music, players wearing shorts, and casual conversation during shots at certain greens gave me the impression that mics were set up at the open bar overlooking a couple of the greens of a resort club’s tourist tourney.
  • One of LIV’s slogans is Golf but louder kinda took on a new meaning, since fans—though hardly shown on screen—were well heard due to their proximity to the mics.
  • Ian, Brooks, Bryson, Kevin, Louis each had one highlight included, but not sure why it was important to show them. Was it for recognition? If so, where was Phil? I think Lee had at least three birdies, where were his highlights?
  • Several clips of Cameron Smith, finished seven shots behind the leader.
  • Not really clear if there’s any strategy involved regarding team play. One is leading, others are not.
  • Currently what’s missing for me is a sense of story or drama.

Today’s highlights from PGA Honda Classic were also released within the same timeframe. As a comparison, at the time of posting:

  • No. of subscribers to LIVGolf‘s YT channel: 255K
  • No. of views: 27K
  • No. of likes: 500+
  • No. of subscribers to PGA’s YT channel: 1.11M
  • No. of views: 42K
  • No. of likes: 450+

About the teams …

I think I might find it more interesting if it were set up more as team vs. team instead of the current format, sort like mini Ryder cups. 

Again, the drama does seem to lack.

My 1st impression was that it was a Lions Club Charity outing without the beer.  I couldn’t get into the flow of the golf action.  WAY too many commercials.  I’ll be home later this afternoon give it another look.  So far not blown away.

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I tried to watch it yesterday but gave up after about 15 mins.  There were too many commercials and for some reason my Roku had problems with the sound so we could not hear what was going on.  Rebooted the tv, sound system and Roku but nothing helped.  Will try again today but based on what we could see, we did not care for the broadcast.  

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Ok this is for real I was watching a little bit of Honda and the announcer caught my attentions when he said when some unknown player was making a shot ... "Seems to be more Marshals than fans" I looked up and saw about 20 marshals in yellow around the hole .... lol  no word of a lie ... I even tried to take a picture but dint' do it in time.   I wonder how many free tickets are given out on a no nothing tournament ? just a question.  Would not surprise me they both do it . 

To Berkeley Bob ... good comments I'm sure they would love to hear feedback like that ... but I'm use to it and now I know how to follow the leaderboard and once you have a picked a Team you like ..you do get into it by knowing who is in that team and watch the players go up or down as they play ... I do understand when new its a little baffling but does not take time to feel they are competing among themselves ... I'm sure all those guys with those ego are doing a lot of trash talk.  Enjoying it a lot and its true don't blink lol  Pick a team put some money on them and watch your focus go up lol  and the golf gets a little exciting ... I'm sure they will get better at it as they go . 

 

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6 hours ago, berkeleybob said:

Just watched Day 2 highlights on YouTube and had some random observations:

  • Not really clear if there’s any strategy involved regarding team play. One is leading, others are not

About the teams …

I think I might find it more interesting if it were set up more as team vs. team instead of the current format, sort like mini Ryder cups. 

 

Take a look on the LIV website and they have a video that explains how the season long competition for individual and team works as well as the relegation component and how players can switch teams.  

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I watched the LIV coverage on my local CW broadcast and don't recall any commercials.   For those that watched commercials were you on the app or youtube watching?

 

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56 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Take a look on the LIV website and they have a video that explains how the season long competition for individual and team works as well as the relegation component and how players can switch teams.  

Thanks, just saw the vid. I get it. It was interesting to see, no Brooks Koepka appearance in that explanation.

And really, this about as close as I’m going to get to being interested. I feel like all I’m doing is looking to see if there’ll be a train wreck down the line. I’ll probably comeback toward the end of the season to see what’s what.

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1 hour ago, Saccers said:

Ok this is for real I was watching a little bit of Honda and the announcer caught my attentions when he said when some unknown player was making a shot ... "Seems to be more Marshals than fans" I looked up and saw about 20 marshals in yellow around the hole .... lol  no word of a lie ... I even tried to take a picture but dint' do it in time.   I wonder how many free tickets are given out on a no nothing tournament ? just a question.  Would not surprise me they both do it . 

To Berkeley Bob ... good comments I'm sure they would love to hear feedback like that ... but I'm use to it and now I know how to follow the leaderboard and once you have a picked a Team you like ..you do get into it by knowing who is in that team and watch the players go up or down as they play ... I do understand when new its a little baffling but does not take time to feel they are competing among themselves ... I'm sure all those guys with those ego are doing a lot of trash talk.  Enjoying it a lot and its true don't blink lol  Pick a team put some money on them and watch your focus go up lol  and the golf gets a little exciting ... I'm sure they will get better at it as they go . 

 

after 42 years honda pulled the plug on the honda classic , i look for others to do the same on the non- elevated events , sort of like liv players losing sponsors , companies will always follow the money .

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

I watched the LIV coverage on my local CW broadcast and don't recall any commercials.   For those that watched commercials were you on the app or youtube watching?

 

Xfinity cable, CW channel.  Lots of commercials aimed mostly CW other shows.

Rick

 

 

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While I know some of the OEMs have severed ties with some of the LIV players, someone is looking to dip their foot into the LIV pond. I've now received a 3rd survey asking about my attitudes toward LIV and if an OEM sponsoring a LIV player would make me think negatively about the brand. 

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OhOk this is for real I was watching a little bit of Honda and the announcer caught my attentions when he said when some unknown player was making a shot ... "Seems to be more Marshals than fans" I looked up and saw about 20 marshals in yellow around the hole .... lol  no word of a lie ... I even tried to take a picture but dint' do it in time.   I wonder how many free tickets are given out on a no nothing tournament ? just a question.  Would not surprise me they both do it . 

To Berkeley Bob ... good comments I'm sure they would love to hear feedback like that ... but I'm use to it and now I know how to follow the leaderboard and once you have a picked a Team you like ..you do get into it by knowing who is in that team and watch the players go up or down as they play ... I do understand when new its a little baffling but does not take time to feel they are competing among themselves ... I'm sure all those guys with those ego are doing a lot of trash talk.  Enjoying it a lot and its true don't blink lol  Pick a team put some money on them and watch your focus go up lol  and the golf gets a little exciting ... I'm sure they will get better at it as they go . 

 

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On 2/25/2023 at 9:09 AM, Saccers said:

LONG LIVE LIV GOLF 🙂 LOVE IT If you really want to understand the structure and where its going read SIsports article

Not sure if allowed to ad link ... so here is partial to search si.com   liv-golf-teams-are-for-sale-daily-cover

The market will decide ... like any new investment and I'm sure there are very rich dudes out there who love the sport enough to

probably invest ... it does have potential world wide.

These valuations are a joke, based on what? $100M per team 😆 LIV sucks, YMMV

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I haven’t been able to watch live during the rounds because I was actually playing my own golf both days. I do love that I can use the LIV app and watch full replays shortly after the rounds are done (within a few hours?)

I never liked that it was difficult/impossible to get full replays of PGA/LPGA events. 
 

@berkeleybob not sure if it was mentioned before but you had a question about keeping track of how many holes were left because of the shotgun start. In the upper left hand corner there is a countdown. X holes left to play.

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On a different note, Phil lost a ton of weight and now just looks like a frail old man. 
 

The scores some of these guys are posting is really interesting to me. You’ve got some big name guys playing terrible and some lesser known players putting up some scores. Not sure how the PGA guys would have compared. I don’t recall a single round where Dechambeau put up any sort of decent score. Kind of surprising to me. 

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On 2/25/2023 at 1:40 PM, Saccers said:

LONG LIVE LIV GOLF  LOVE IT 

seems there are a few nay naysayers, its good for golf ...After running a business I just hope they succeed

 

... By SCREAMING  we know where you stand, we just don't know how much LIV is paying you. 😉  And I think there are many more than a "few nay naysayers". I don't want to get too far off track but since you brought it up, if your  business was raided by a foreign government, took away several of your  best employees and tried to diminish your product ... would you still be hoping they succeed? 

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4 hours ago, shootmyage said:

after 42 years honda pulled the plug on the honda classic , i look for others to do the same on the non- elevated events , sort of like liv players losing sponsors , companies will always follow the money .

So what? The big sponsors will pay the bigger money for the elevated events. 

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4 hours ago, shootmyage said:

after 42 years honda pulled the plug on the honda classic , i look for others to do the same on the non- elevated events , sort of like liv players losing sponsors , companies will always follow the money .

Remember this is a transition year for the tour schedule. It will look nothing like this year next and designated events will rotate... Helping more.

Honda is just a victim of the schedule and the events that gained popularity around it. It happens when there are so many events 

The new schedule should alleviate some of that.

LIV players aren't necessarily loosing sponsors..contracts are up and for one reason or another aren't being renewed. If you signed a 100 million contract would you want to be stuck to one OEM? 

Plenty of them being free agents isn't going to hurt, they will still get next to all their gear for free. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, cnosil said:

I watched the LIV coverage on my local CW broadcast and don't recall any commercials.   For those that watched commercials were you on the app or youtube watching?

 

I was on utube on my smart TV...

4 hours ago, Rickp said:

Xfinity cable, CW channel.  Lots of commercials aimed mostly CW other shows.

I only saw cw shows in NZ...

 

4 hours ago, Headhammer said:

While I know some of the OEMs have severed ties with some of the LIV players, someone is looking to dip their foot into the LIV pond. I've now received a 3rd survey asking about my attitudes toward LIV and if an OEM sponsoring a LIV player would make me think negatively about the brand. 

Liv Pga same same but different...

I’m a hacker who loves nothing more than to change how I play, be that grips shafts and heads its all fair game lol…

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4 hours ago, Rickp said:

Xfinity cable, CW channel.  Lots of commercials aimed mostly CW other shows.

Turned it on a little while ago and maybe I just missed the commercials yesterday; there are a few for the CW shows,  but I wouldn't consider it a lot of commercials.

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43 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Turned it on a little while ago and maybe I just missed the commercials yesterday; there are a few for the CW shows,  but I wouldn't consider it a lot of commercials.

I’m one of those guys who hates ALL commercials.  

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56 minutes ago, Bang60 said:

I was on utube on my smart TV...

I only saw cw shows in NZ...

 

Liv Pga same same but different...

PGA has too many commercials also.

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15 minutes ago, Rickp said:

I’m one of those guys who hates ALL commercials.  

 

... Sheesh, what diid I ever do to you? 😇

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9 minutes ago, Rickp said:

PGA has too many commercials also.

Television in general haha

I stream all my tv content and although we have cable when we do have it on for one reason or another I am always taken back and shocked at how much time is taken up by commercials. 

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8 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... Sheesh, what diid I ever do to you? 😇

Oops😁

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10 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Television in general haha

I stream all my tv content and although we have cable when we do have it on for one reason or another I am always taken back and shocked at how much time is taken up by commercials. 

Yeah my pet hate is paying for content and still getting commercials the same as FREE to air...

I’m a hacker who loves nothing more than to change how I play, be that grips shafts and heads its all fair game lol…

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CH III gets his first LIV Tour win.  Having amassed a not too shabby $40M over his long, ironman like career on the PGA Tour, it will be interesting to see what his earnings/season looks like with LIV, but bagging nearly 10% of his career earnings in just one event will definitely shift the trend line to vertical.

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10 hours ago, Headhammer said:

While I know some of the OEMs have severed ties with some of the LIV players, someone is looking to dip their foot into the LIV pond. I've now received a 3rd survey asking about my attitudes toward LIV and if an OEM sponsoring a LIV player would make me think negatively about the brand. 

Ya know, I’d wonder who that would be:

  • Mainstream OEM?
  • DTC like Sub 70? Snell? 
  • Bob Parsons? Nahh, he probably wouldn’t bother with a survey.

 

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7 hours ago, PeterHenric said:

On a different note, Phil lost a ton of weight and now just looks like a frail old man. 
 

The scores some of these guys are posting is really interesting to me. You’ve got some big name guys playing terrible and some lesser known players putting up some scores. Not sure how the PGA guys would have compared. I don’t recall a single round where Dechambeau put up any sort of decent score. Kind of surprising to me. 

The top players on Saturday started on the front 9. Not sure if that matters, just interesting.

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5 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Television in general haha

I stream all my tv content and although we have cable when we do have it on for one reason or another I am always taken back and shocked at how much time is taken up by commercials. 

YES! We also stream all content so it’s crazy to see how much ad time there is anymore

 

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56 minutes ago, berkeleybob said:

Ya know, I’d wonder who that would be:

  • Mainstream OEM?
  • DTC like Sub 70? Snell? 
  • Bob Parsons? Nahh, he probably wouldn’t bother with a survey.

 

Right about Parsons, he’s going to do what he feels is best for his brand.  

Rick

 

 

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