Liv Golf Central Thread: Events and News

[RickyBobby_PR]

38 minutes ago, shootmyage said:

if i was a member of the pga and went thru the local qual and made it i could play the pga championship , so can the liv players that are not exemo  , i have said this before  , if they are good enough and a club pto somewhere

i did not say the masters was a " open " , i said it was another story it be decided by the masters not the  pga tour .. 

it’s already been said by the 4 majors that as of now none are being denied access to play in the majors.

the players already know what they have to do for the 3 opens and pga championship. None of those not exempt already for the masters will be out of luck to get an invite. 
 

Another post that adds nothing to the thread and just states already knows facts 

[shootmyage]

23 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

it’s already been said by the 4 majors that as of now none are being denied access to play in the majors.

the players already know what they have to do for the 3 opens and pga championship. None of those not exempt already for the masters will be out of luck to get an invite. 
 

Another post that adds nothing to the thread and just states already knows facts 

PGA and Masters are not "open" championships. 

i was answering to the above post that was not true  to what i said , i never said they were opens  , but i guess new members on this forum with few posts are always wrong , to me addressing a wrong is not adding nothing .  

Edited November 16, 2022 by shootmyage

[RickyBobby_PR]

18 minutes ago, shootmyage said:

PGA and Masters are not "open" championships. 

i was answering to the above post that was not true  to what i said , i never said they were opens  , 

You missed the point of the reply. You said what you would do as a player for the pga championships. It literally what any player would have to do whether they are part of liv or not. 

[shootmyage]

3 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

You missed the point of the reply. You said what you would do as a player for the pga championships. It literally what any player would have to do whether they are part of liv or not. 

i did not miss the point , i did not say pgac or masters were opens .

[Bang60]

I think Liv and Pga are watching and waiting to see what's happening next year with their respective tours, which tour has the best start and then I think they will make decisions of who's top dog and they then join forces or one absorb the other...

[cleve981]

1 hour ago, Bang60 said:

I think Liv and Pga are watching and waiting to see what's happening next year with their respective tours, which tour has the best start and then I think they will make decisions of who's top dog and they then join forces or one absorb the other...

Nah, LIV and the Pgatour are two different products. The Tour is fine and will remain so. LIV is a gimmick tour and will struggle to maintain relevance. 

[Bang60]

1 minute ago, cleve981 said:

Nah, LIV and the Pgatour are two different products. The Tour is fine and will remain so. LIV is a gimmick tour and will struggle to maintain relevance. 

Don’t agree, the present pga tour takes way too long. A lot of guys at my club are bored with the pga and you only see a few players, we like seeing a lot more players and the 3days play is long enough for us…

Mid next year we will know…

[GolfSpy_APH]

5 hours ago, cleve981 said:

Nah, LIV and the Pgatour are two different products. The Tour is fine and will remain so. LIV is a gimmick tour and will struggle to maintain relevance. 

The under reported and kinda tbd with Liv is viewer numbers. They were so low! If it was a tv show it would be cancelled after the first few episodes. 

Now they had to pay to get on a network (unheard of for sports) so those numbers may be the most telling. 

Liv golf seems like the match series to me. Had some story and intrigue at the beginning and now I completely forget it's even going on unless i see something here about it. 

They have to funds to sustain themselves for a long time. However will any of these current players see s second contract? 

 

[RickyBobby_PR]

8 hours ago, Bang60 said:

Don’t agree, the present pga tour takes way too long. A lot of guys at my club are bored with the pga and you only see a few players, we like seeing a lot more players and the 3days play is long enough for us…

Mid next year we will know…

You must not read the internet very much. The pga tour wants nothing to do with liv and has counter sued them.

Norman wants nothing to do with the pga tour and for the most part the dp world tour is set out to destroy their business.

There is no negotiating at this point and there probably wouldn’t have been any at the very onset when the saudis wanted to start liv.

 

[cleve981]

3 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

The under reported and kinda tbd with Liv is viewer numbers. They were so low! If it was a tv show it would be cancelled after the first few episodes. 

Now they had to pay to get on a network (unheard of for sports) so those numbers may be the most telling. 

Liv golf seems like the match series to me. Had some story and intrigue at the beginning and now I completely forget it's even going on unless i see something here about it. 

They have to funds to sustain themselves for a long time. However will any of these current players see s second contract? 

 

I think that LIV will have a TV contract next year (2023) and if it remains free the viewership will go up. Keep in mind that the goal is not to make money, it's to make the pgatour a feeder tour. They seem to think that by taking most of their top players will achieve that goal.

LIV has created a fanatical following, that cannot be denied based on this thread alone. Will the general public adapt to team golf is the question. Will some billionaire buy a team?

The RC & PC is hugely popular, but that's because they're once every two years.

As far as contracts go....I think that if LIV makes it to the fifth year, they'll pick up most player's option.

[cleve981]

9 hours ago, Bang60 said:

Don’t agree, the present pga tour takes way too long. A lot of guys at my club are bored with the pga and you only see a few players, we like seeing a lot more players and the 3days play is long enough for us…

Mid next year we will know…

You do know that you guys can watch the PGATOUR on Fri, Sat, Sun/

Tournament golf shows the players playing well, that's usually the ones on the first page.

Showing random shots brings nothing the broadcast.

[RickyBobby_PR]

8 hours ago, cleve981 said:

I think that LIV will have a TV contract next year (2023) and if it remains free the viewership will go up. Keep in mind that the goal is not to make money, it's to make the pgatour a feeder tour. They seem to think that by taking most of their top players will achieve that goal.

The pga tour isn’t going to be a feeder tour for liv. The majority of guys who jumped are journeyman or past their prime and don’t compete on a regular basis on the tour. Yes someone like cam smith potentially dj and Bryson would still be competitive on tour but that’s about it.

they aren’t going to be stealing more pga tour members that matter as those guys would have jumped already. 

8 hours ago, cleve981 said:

LIV has created a fanatical following, that cannot be denied based on this thread alone. Will the general public adapt to team golf is the question. Will some billionaire buy a team?

A fanatical following? They are paying to have their stuff broadcast that’s not a fanatical following. If they had one networks would be paying them to show it

[GolfSpy_APH]

As expected

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/patrick-reed-750-million-lawsuit-dismissed

[MGoBlue100]

9 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

As expected

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/patrick-reed-750-million-lawsuit-dismissed

Legal wrangling. It will get resubmitted. I don’t know if it has any merit, or what the REAL point of the lawsuit might be, but it’s not quite over yet. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

Just now, MGoBlue100 said:

Legal wrangling. It will get resubmitted. I don’t know if it has any merit, or what the REAL point of the lawsuit might be, but it’s not quite over yet. 

Yeah he can resubmit, but from the sounds of the ruling he needs to rethink it all and was suggested he change tactic so it may have any standing else it will get tossed again. 

[chisag]

On 11/19/2022 at 7:37 AM, GolfSpy_APH said:

Yeah he can resubmit, but from the sounds of the ruling he needs to rethink it all and was suggested he change tactic so it may have any standing else it will get tossed again. 

 

... Suing any media or media representative for reporting or commenting on a public figure is a really tough course of action to prove the intent was: 


"engage in a pattern and practice of defaming Mr. Reed, misreporting information with actual knowledge of falsity and/or reckless disregard of the truth, that is with actual and constitutional malice, purposely omitting pertinent key material facts to mislead the public, and actively targeting Mr. Reed since he was 23 years old, to destroy his reputation, create hate, and a hostile work environment for him, with the intention to discredit his name" 


... Many have been called much worse than anything said about Reed as well as going as far back as college and his team mates said he cheated and they just didn't like him. I thought his "Captain America" RC actions were embarrassing for the US team. I always find it interesting that the good guys that don't deserve it never sue when maligned, but the bad guys are constantly threatening legal action because evidently none of them own mirrors.  

[Bang60]

Interesting point of view which is where I'm at with this Liv drama, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Just saying...

[LICC]

23 minutes ago, Bang60 said:

Interesting point of view which is where I'm at with this Liv drama, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Just saying...

You pushed into politics with that post, but suffice to say the whataboutism argument to excuse the selling out to the Saudis is awfully weak. 

[Bang60]

5 hours ago, LICC said:

You pushed into politics with that post, but suffice to say the whataboutism argument to excuse the selling out to the Saudis is awfully weak. 

Politics is it wow you see alot in one person's opinion or was it because I agree with it, I don't agree with people who say "do as I say not as I do" or "it's ok if Billy Bob does it but you can't".....

[GolfSpy_APH]

46 minutes ago, Bang60 said:

Politics is it wow you see alot in one person's opinion or was it because I agree with it, I don't agree with people who say "do as I say not as I do" or "it's ok if Billy Bob does it but you can't".....

Anything that brings in the funding of LIV is on the line. We removed the header, but ask that we do our best to stick to the golf, events and golfers. 

Discussion that leads to where the money is coming from and so on leads to conversations that do not apply to this forum and has been discussed when LIV first started. 

Not that what you posted was wrong. 

This is more just another note that we are mainly a golfing forum and for the LIV conversation we avoid discussion of the backing of LIV as there are very strong opinions on it which has lead to us locking the thread for periods of time prior.