MGS Off-Season Speed Challenge

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

Mevo speed today indoors with a ball was 106. Not bad being really sore from working out. Time to keep grinding

[snicerz]

Just stumbled on this thread. Perfect timing since I just started Stack and I’ve recently found my way back into the gym (last time I lifted was pre-Covid)

This is my baseline from 10/21

 

[mstuewe]

I'd like to join.  On 11/1 my driver speed was 118.  

Not a fan of the calculation for rewarding the winner.  Someone with a 90 mph swing speed is going to have a much easier chance of hitting 99 mph (10% increase) than I will of getting up to 130 (also 10% increase).  But whatever, good to be part of the community of folks getting stronger.

PRGR, TheStack, Fit for Golf

[AndySP]

7 hours ago, mstuewe said:

I'd like to join.  On 11/1 my driver speed was 118.  

Not a fan of the calculation for rewarding the winner.  Someone with a 90 mph swing speed is going to have a much easier chance of hitting 99 mph (10% increase) than I will of getting up to 130 (also 10% increase).  But whatever, good to be part of the community of folks getting stronger.

I saw @GolfSpy MPR got a formula from Sasho that gives credit for the starting speed. I’m curious how much it would affect the rankings. I like the extra motivation no matter what the rules are. 

Sasho’s formula:

0.4(starting speed) + 5(speed increase) = speed improvement score

[GolfSpy TCB]

Ok... I have my Off-Season Speed Training setup all ready to go...

 

Rypstick Swing Speed Training Equipment - $200.00

 

PRGR HS-130A Launch Monitor/Radar - $229.00

 

Proper Motivation provided by @GolfSpy_BOS - Priceless

[GolfSpy BOS]

49 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

Ok... I have my Off-Season Speed Training setup all ready to go...

 

Rypstick Swing Speed Training Equipment - $200.00

 

PRGR HS-130A Launch Monitor/Radar - $229.00

 

Proper Motivation provided by @GolfSpy_BOS - Priceless

I love it! You’re going to be at 135 with that ugly mug staring at you!

 

@ejgaudette i did my baseline. 108, 108, 106 baseline swings. So 107.5 average. 
 

let the training begin!

[ejgaudette]

17 hours ago, AndySP said:

I saw @GolfSpy MPR got a formula from Sasho that gives credit for the starting speed. I’m curious how much it would affect the rankings. I like the extra motivation no matter what the rules are. 

Sasho’s formula:

0.4(starting speed) + 5(speed increase) = speed improvement score

Yes I did see this an I am willing to move to this system Any objects from the members, @Getoffmylawn specifically as a bit of a co-conspirator on this

[ejgaudette]

On 11/6/2022 at 6:57 AM, mstuewe said:

I'd like to join.  On 11/1 my driver speed was 118.  

Not a fan of the calculation for rewarding the winner.  Someone with a 90 mph swing speed is going to have a much easier chance of hitting 99 mph (10% increase) than I will of getting up to 130 (also 10% increase).  But whatever, good to be part of the community of folks getting stronger.

PRGR, TheStack, Fit for Golf

 

On 11/6/2022 at 5:57 AM, snicerz said:

Just stumbled on this thread. Perfect timing since I just started Stack and I’ve recently found my way back into the gym (last time I lifted was pre-Covid)

This is my baseline from 10/21

 

Great to have you joining us and look forward to hearing about your progress. Will be looking to update at least monthly, but share as often as you like.

[GolfSpy AFG]

13 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

Yes I did see this an I am willing to move to this system Any objects from the members, @Getoffmylawn specifically as a bit of a co-conspirator on this

No objection here, I think that's a great idea.  Let's pin that formula or rules on how the winner is determined to the top of the thread though so there's no missing that point.

[ejgaudette]

Just now, Getoffmylawn said:

No objection here, I think that's a great idea.  Let's pin that formula or rules on how the winner is determined to the top of the thread though so there's no missing that point.

I will add it to the leader board so its always at the top

[edingc]

Love the idea of the format change. Definitely seems ideal considering my maxed out estimation of where I could get this offseason is about 5.25 percent increase.

Been following the Stack protocols pretty seriously for the first three weeks. This is going to be fun.

[ejgaudette]

Just now, edingc said:

Love the idea of the format change. Definitely seems ideal considering my maxed out estimation of where I could get this offseason is about 5.25 percent increase.

Been following the Stack protocols pretty seriously for the first three weeks. This is going to be fun.

Yes I am finalizing the formula now. We have about 30 mph difference in starting speed so I am going to lower the ratio on starting score and there was a case where GolfspyTCB gianed 10 mph those at the top end could gain no speed and win, of course assuming other folk also gain little speed. So think more around .3 works better as then even those at the top end need to gain a little to win. Though to find a balance.

[70445]

New to speed training, hoping someone can help me on a couple of questions.  I’m 78 and of course have lost speed…. I’ve been using a shaft one handed to get the swoosh thing going.  I make 20 swing left handed and 10 or so right handed, then 10 both hands.  I’ve noticed my last hand is fairly good, but height hand is slower, as well as both hand together.  I’m not using weighted sticks, but just the golf shaft.  Is this a good technique?  I hesitate to use weight as my shoulder is not that good, and don’t want to injure it any more.  Any informed comments would be appreciated. 

[GolfSpy TCB]

49 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

Yes I am finalizing the formula now. We have about 30 mph difference in starting speed so I am going to lower the ratio on starting score and there was a case where GolfspyTCB gianed 10 mph those at the top end could gain no speed and win, of course assuming other folk also gain little speed. So think more around .3 works better as then even those at the top end need to gain a little to win. Though to find a balance.

@ejgaudette... are you and @GolfSpy_BOS in cahoots to rake me over the coals about my baby swing speed??? .  I may need to add a picture of you to my net for more motivation! .   

[ejgaudette]

13 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

@ejgaudette... are you and @GolfSpy_BOS in cahoots to rake me over the coals about my baby swing speed??? .  I may need to add a picture of you to my net for more motivation! .   

Whatever helps you go faster!

[GolfSpy BOS]

16 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

@ejgaudette... are you and @GolfSpy_BOS in cahoots to rake me over the coals about my baby swing speed??? .  I may need to add a picture of you to my net for more motivation! .   

 

2 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

Whatever helps you go faster!

Yup, we’re just providing proper motivation!

[Bunkershotbirdie]

Hello - Can I get in this?  l am already using a golf training group and have a goal to go from my current speed of 90 mph to 102 mph by spring.  This will help me stay focused on my training workouts, if I know others are watching.  Plus, I am curious how other golfers increase their speed. 

I will use a Skytrac to measure my speed and Par4Success is who is providing my training program.  My focus now is to add muscle to add power, since my metrics say I should be jumping higher and throwing farther.

  

[ejgaudette]

6 minutes ago, Bunkershotbirdie said:

Hello - Can I get in this?  l am already using a golf training group and have a goal to go from my current speed of 90 mph to 102 mph by spring.  This will help me stay focused on my training workouts, if I know others are watching.  Plus, I am curious how other golfers increase their speed. 

I will use a Skytrac to measure my speed and Par4Success is who is providing my training program.  My focus now is to add muscle to add power, since my metrics say I should be jumping higher and throwing farther.

  

Happy to have you join us, I will add you to the leader board. Be sure to let us know what training you end up doing and how it ends up going.

[ejgaudette]

So new scoring system is up and scoring had been adjusted to the following system.

Starting Speed * 0.27 + Speed Increase

In looking at the data it looks like say getting to 36 points will be a good score. This will take @Golfspy_TCB needs to gain 12 mph, I would need to add 8 mph, someone @Getoffmylawn would need to add 6 mph and @edingc would need to add 5 mph while @AndySP would need to add about 3.5 mph. So I think it will come down to decimal points, so be sure to get that average of 3 wing accurate in March as it may decide the winner.

I think this scoring keeps everything fair given this will only last 5 months and we have to span about 30 mph of starting speed .4 was just too high for the starting speed. Good luck everyone and lets go get it.

[Parshooter36]

Maybe this is the motivation I need to actally use my Superspeed system I've had for several years now. I know my swing speed is right around 90 mph, but I can test it when I get home tonight to get a solid baseline number.

[ejgaudette]

1 minute ago, Parshooter36 said:

Maybe this is the motivation I need to actally use my Superspeed system I've had for several years now. I know my swing speed is right around 90 mph, but I can test it when I get home tonight to get a solid baseline number.

Happy to have you join, looks like we are moving close to 20 participants

[GolfSpy TCB]

I have a quick question for those of you who have already been working through various swing speed protocols... the rest period between "workouts" is crucial from what I have researched (and makes sense based on working out more in my younger days...).  How do you mix in your workouts with playing rounds?  I try to get out and play at least 3 rounds a week.. most every Saturday/Sunday... so how would that impact the "rest" days?

I know we are all in competition with each other here   but was curious how you all approach this.  My thought is to target initial speed workouts on maybe Monday and Thursday... so I have two days after the first workout of the week, and one rest day before my first weekend round.  But then I would be coming of two rounds and the next day doing a swing speed workout.  

I did 2 speed workouts last week with a day rest between.  I saw triple digits on the light weight rypstick at the end of the 2nd session, and saw a few mph increase on my Driver as well..   I played poorly over the weekend.... hope the two aren't related.

 

[ejgaudette]

9 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

I have a quick question for those of you who have already been working through various swing speed protocols... the rest period between "workouts" is crucial from what I have researched (and makes sense based on working out more in my younger days...).  How do you mix in your workouts with playing rounds?  I try to get out and play at least 3 rounds a week.. most every Saturday/Sunday... so how would that impact the "rest" days?

I know we are all in competition with each other here   but was curious how you all approach this.  My thought is to target initial speed workouts on maybe Monday and Thursday... so I have two days after the first workout of the week, and one rest day before my first weekend round.  But then I would be coming of two rounds and the next day doing a swing speed workout.  

I did 2 speed workouts last week with a day rest between.  I saw triple digits on the light weight rypstick at the end of the 2nd session, and saw a few mph increase on my Driver as well..   I played poorly over the weekend.... hope the two aren't related.

 

I would say when trying to play through training like that there will be days when you are a bit tired and slow. I think given how much you are playing, doing the training two days a week is a good start. Maybe move to three on a week when you can only play once. This should give your body some time to rest and recover each week. As always listen to your body and I am sure that you will make great progress (wait it supposed to be a competition) I mean you are going down

[GolfSpy TCB]

5 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

I would say when trying to play through training like that there will be days when you are a bit tired and slow. I think given how much you are playing, doing the training two days a week is a good start. Maybe move to three on a week when you can only play once. This should give your body some time to rest and recover each week. As always listen to your body and I am sure that you will make great progress (wait it supposed to be a competition) I mean you are going down

Thanks @ejgaudette   

[GolfSpy TCB]

39 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

In looking at the data it looks like say getting to 36 points will be a good score. This will take @Golfspy_TCB needs to gain 12 mph, I would need to add 8 mph, someone @Getoffmylawn would need to add 6 mph and @edingc would need to add 5 mph while @AndySP would need to add about 3.5 mph.

I'm not exactly sure... but I think you are calling me a swing speed sandbagger here..... haha. 

[Berg Ryman]

28 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

How do you mix in your workouts with playing rounds?  I try to get out and play at least 3 rounds a week.. most every Saturday/Sunday... so how would that impact the "rest" days?

This is where I might have a bit of an advantage or a handicap potentially being in snow state. Upside, won't be tempted by playing and focus solely on training. Downside, won't know real world application until season starts most likely of potentially screwing with technique.

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

36 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

I have a quick question for those of you who have already been working through various swing speed protocols... the rest period between "workouts" is crucial from what I have researched (and makes sense based on working out more in my younger days...).  How do you mix in your workouts with playing rounds?  I try to get out and play at least 3 rounds a week.. most every Saturday/Sunday... so how would that impact the "rest" days?

I know we are all in competition with each other here   but was curious how you all approach this.  My thought is to target initial speed workouts on maybe Monday and Thursday... so I have two days after the first workout of the week, and one rest day before my first weekend round.  But then I would be coming of two rounds and the next day doing a swing speed workout.  

I did 2 speed workouts last week with a day rest between.  I saw triple digits on the light weight rypstick at the end of the 2nd session, and saw a few mph increase on my Driver as well..   I played poorly over the weekend.... hope the two aren't related.

 

The superspeed guys recommended two rest days. You can play in between but like others said you may be tired that day of playing. Just don’t play on days you do protocols. I’ve done it and was gassed by hole 3 

[ejgaudette]

13 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

I'm not exactly sure... but I think you are calling me a swing speed sandbagger here..... haha. 

No no if I kept it at 0.4 you would need to gain like 15 mph to tie some of the high swing speed players without them gaining a mph all off season. I know we are all an honest bunch here.

[Berg Ryman]

Also, for anyone intrigued by Rypstick and looking to help a member out, @edingc has his stick for sale in BST for $150. I may buy but I think my ceilings and space is too small to get the total length out of it.

[RichL85]

Likely stupid, but legitimate question. Are we going with playing speed or "let it rip" speed. I ask because last week I had another session and when hitting drives, my swing speed was averaging 95mph, and I know a huge part of this is mental and sequencing. We also took the ball away and took some swings. Basically, just swing for the fences with no worries about the consequences. Three of those swings averaged 104.7. That's a fairly large difference for my starting speed. Feel free to change my starting speed if that makes more sense. I'm honestly just not sure if this is all about max speed, or actually useful playing speed?