MGS Off-Season Speed Challenge

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

Depending if I can get outside and feel better, gym work is off for the week as I just tested positive for Covid today. 

[Bohnson]

I have a good system now that I have the RYP radar! Fastest speed with the light superspeed is 136. I feel a bit out of control trying to create speed, but I am swinging for the fences. Will be interesting to see how a launch monitor registers with the driver compared to the ryp radar. When the time comes to test! 
 
PS I would recommend the ryp radar and the superspeed sticks. Seems like it picks it up fairly accurately every swing. 

[ejgaudette]

4 hours ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Depending if I can get outside and feel better, gym work is off for the week as I just tested positive for Covid today. 

Hope you recover quickly and don't get knocked back too hard, I know this can really knock people for a loop.

 

Keep the updates coming. I need to get back to it now that life is back to normal after the holidays. Have some nice warm weather this week so should be able to get some good work in.

[GolfSpy AFG]

Hitting a bit of a rut in my speed training.  I am doing the Neural Drive program, which was not the first recommendation the app generated but I wanted some variety.  And, the description for Neural Drive says it is targeted at those who feel they are not as fast as their strength levels would suggest they should be...seems to fit me.

Through Phase 2 I was cruising along and excited to get to Phase 3, but Phase 3 so far has been disappointing.  In Phase 3, you basically do a set of 8 max swings at 240, 255, or something in that range, then 2 consecutive max sets at a very light weight, then finish it off with 5 max swings at 195.  Here's a preview of my next workout:

So far, jumping from those light weights up to 195 has me feeling like I'm swinging a sledge hammer, and I don't seem able to make the adaptation...my overall Stack speeds and Driver eSpeeds have fallen off in Phase 3 rather than improved:

I'm going to stick it out of course...I'm hoping I either self-organize and start hitting some faster speeds, or this is simply part of the Neural Drive "master plan" and Phase 4 will pay off in speed gains.

Anybody else have experience with the Neural Drive program?

 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

well I am getting on the mend. may not be able to do speed work until Monday (maybe tomorrow if I am feeling better). I did do a Skillest lesson on Sunday and got feed back. With that was some driver work he gave me. Again, I haven't tried full speed, but even with slow swings, I feel more rotation and freeness. This may help me get over the hump.

[GolfSpy AFG]

Just finished, got back to my top 195 set speed in the program so far, so maybe it’s not time to panic…

 

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

Speed check in:

After my round the other day, swing felt really good and was putting a good smash on the ball it felt like. Consistently 250-260 on the fly (no roll in this wetness) so wanted to see where I was at.

Took the day off from any exercise and just stretched. Speed average 110 lock it in.

[edingc]

Got out in the garage yesterday morning for a Stack workout and speed check-in (as I have throughout this competition, my numbers are with a ball and post-Stack). I had a great Stack workout with a few personal bests, felt like I was going to crush my driver and on my first swing...

I toe-shanked the hell out of it, sending it up and right nearly 90 degrees and through the garage window!

(How to Upset the Wife 101 )

I cleaned up the mess, and $8 in materials from Home Depot later the window is boarded up nice and tight. Thankfully the ball had so little on it that it broke the glass and fell immediately outside and not anywhere near my neighbors. These windows are old, single pane glass, and it looks like about $40 in new plexiglass will get it fixed up when the weather is nicer. Oh well.

I went back out today and didn't bother with a Stack priming session, which in retrospect was dumb. Between the lack of the Stack stimulation and also a bit of nervousness, my driver speeds fell way down, with my best drives barely hitting 111. Crossing fingers that next time is a much better showing. I was so close to 117 a few weeks ago and now that seems so far away.

[RollingGreens]

3 minutes ago, edingc said:

Got out in the garage yesterday morning for a Stack workout and speed check-in (as I have throughout this competition, my numbers are with a ball and post-Stack). I had a great Stack workout with a few personal bests, felt like I was going to crush my driver and on my first swing...

I toe-shanked the hell out of it, sending it up and right nearly 90 degrees and through the garage window!

(How to Upset the Wife 101 )

I cleaned up the mess, and $8 in materials from Home Depot later the window is boarded up nice and tight. Thankfully the ball had so little on it that it broke the glass and fell immediately outside and not anywhere near my neighbors. These windows are old, single pane glass, and it looks like about $40 in new plexiglass will get it fixed up when the weather is nicer. Oh well.

I went back out today and didn't bother with a Stack priming session, which in retrospect was dumb. Between the lack of the Stack stimulation and also a bit of nervousness, my driver speeds fell way down, with my best drives barely hitting 111. Crossing fingers that next time is a much better showing. I was so close to 117 a few weeks ago and now that seems so far away.

Oh man that is definitely a bummer to see. You have me beat from when I hit thinned one that went through the net and dented my wooden shed, unfortunately the full side panel had to be replaced and then re pained 

[GolfSpy AFG]

4 hours ago, edingc said:

 

I went back out today and didn't bother with a Stack priming session, which in retrospect was dumb. Between the lack of the Stack stimulation and also a bit of nervousness, my driver speeds fell way down, with my best drives barely hitting 111. Crossing fingers that next time is a much better showing. I was so close to 117 a few weeks ago and now that seems so far away.

Sucks about your window. I know the feeling though.  I once got all sweaty-handed and sent a training stick flying across the gym.  It was early enough in the morning that there was almost nobody there so thankfully I didn't hurt anybody.  But obviously when I took my next swings I was nervous as hell and death-gripping the thing, and my speeds fell way off.  I actually train with a pair of rain gloves on now for that reason.

And I forgot it's check-in time!

 

[edingc]

12 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

I know the feeling though.  I once got all sweaty-handed and sent a training stick flying across the gym.

I remember reading your post about that. It made me realize I could swing way harder as I've not had that happen yet!

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

13 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Sucks about your window. I know the feeling though.  I once got all sweaty-handed and sent a training stick flying across the gym.  It was early enough in the morning that there was almost nobody there so thankfully I didn't hurt anybody.  But obviously when I took my next swings I was nervous as hell and death-gripping the thing, and my speeds fell way off.  I actually train with a pair of rain gloves on now for that reason.

And I forgot it's check-in time!

 

That happened to me a month ago in my park. It was after that I knew I had to replace my grip on the trainer. 

[GolfSpy AFG]

3 hours ago, edingc said:

I remember reading your post about that. It made me realize I could swing way harder as I've not had that happen yet!

Yeah, something I still struggle with.  I've heard Sasho talk about how if you're not putting yourself at risk of falling over you're not at max effort.  Hard to push to that standard every swing.

2 hours ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

That happened to me a month ago in my park. It was after that I knew I had to replace my grip on the trainer. 

Did that too!

[ejgaudette]

I guess I am not trying hard enough then as I have not done these things yet.

[AndySP]

The intent part of swinging fast, and balancing fast and hard is still the thing I struggle with the most. Sometimes 80% gets me my fastest speeds.

I’ve also found that there are some swings where I’m completely off balance on the follow through, but the number is high. Often I’m falling forwards, which confuses me. 

I haven’t done my check in yet because I was gone for the holidays, but one hopeful I can do it tomorrow. I managed a few days in the gym, but otherwise just sat and ate…I mean “rested.” 

[THEZIPR23]

9 minutes ago, AndySP said:

The intent part of swinging fast, and balancing fast and hard is still the thing I struggle with the most. Sometimes 80% gets me my fastest speeds.

I’ve also found that there are some swings where I’m completely off balance on the follow through, but the number is high. Often I’m falling forwards, which confuses me. 

I haven’t done my check in yet because I was gone for the holidays, but one hopeful I can do it tomorrow. I managed a few days in the gym, but otherwise just sat and ate…I mean “rested.” 

I think most people struggle with this. The feel of fast is often associated with hard. I have to conscioulsy think about fast not hard prior to my speed swings. As far as the balance, on max intent swings I wouldn't worry too much as you are training your body to overswing. And falling forwards is ideal as that would indicate you are using the ground to push up, and through. 

[GolfSpy AFG]

January check in:  3 swings, 112, 114, 113.  Let’s call it 113.

[ejgaudette]

Nice to see some folks checking in, even if the holidays have been tough to get out there. myself included. I will be doing my check today and then we will get an updated leader board.

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

I got back to overspeed and lifting today. I’m gassed but good to be back at it. I didn’t lose any speed pre and post covid

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

1 hour ago, Getoffmylawn said:

January check in:  3 swings, 112, 114, 113.  Let’s call it 113.

Thats a tough average out right there, did you need a calculator?

[GolfSpy AFG]

37 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

Thats a tough average out right there, did you need a calculator?

Easy sailor…

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

8 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Easy sailor…

I couldnt help myself!

[ejgaudette]

3 hours ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

I got back to overspeed and lifting today. I’m gassed but good to be back at it. I didn’t lose any speed pre and post covid

Glad to hear that, I know many have reported losing speed for a while after getting through Covid

[AndySP]

Stack told me to do 2 return to form workouts before returning to the normal plan. I had 10 days off for the holidays, but came back yesterday feeling pretty good. I finally got a 195g swing at 109, (average 108) which I’m pretty happy about. I also did three swings after the workout, which, even if they don’t count, we’re quick for me at 120, 122, 121. 
 

Fingers crossed that it’s not a fluke. 

 

[edingc]

Perplexing check-in.

Set new personal best 107 with 195 grams on Stack but speeds with a ball have regressed 3-4 MPH from my previous bests depending on swing.

Seeing it both with the driver and 6 iron, so I don't think it's indoor swing syndrome.

Stuck at 114 with the driver. Dispersion has gotten slightly better at least. 

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

1 hour ago, edingc said:

Perplexing check-in.

Set new personal best 107 with 195 grams on Stack but speeds with a ball have regressed 3-4 MPH from my previous bests depending on swing.

Seeing it both with the driver and 6 iron, so I don't think it's indoor swing syndrome.

Stuck at 114 with the driver. Dispersion has gotten slightly better at least. 

If anything improves I say it’s a win! 
 

Silly question because I know the answer but assuming you used the same ball?

[edingc]

6 hours ago, Lacassem said:

If anything improves I say it’s a win! 
 

Silly question because I know the answer but assuming you used the same ball?

Yeah, dispersion getting better is a huge win. 

I just have some power leaks with longer clubs. I need to accept that I will always swing my irons faster than my driver, relatively. 

Same ball. I looked back to Dec. 17 and I hit 117 several times. Only other major change is that I've started to cut a bit and have lowered my calories to 2,100 or so. While it hasn't affected me in the gym, it's quite possible it has slowed me down just a bit. 

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

17 minutes ago, edingc said:

Yeah, dispersion getting better is a huge win. 

I just have some power leaks with longer clubs. I need to accept that I will always swing my irons faster than my driver, relatively. 

Same ball. I looked back to Dec. 17 and I hit 117 several times. Only other major change is that I've started to cut a bit and have lowered my calories to 2,100 or so. While it hasn't affected me in the gym, it's quite possible it has slowed me down just a bit. 

I mean in theory the lower calorie intake could take away from some growth but that’s still a healthy total, whet were you taking in before? Assuming it wasn’t a drastic drop 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

4 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

I mean in theory the lower calorie intake could take away from some growth but that’s still a healthy total, whet were you taking in before? Assuming it wasn’t a drastic drop 

You can have lower calories but still maintain growth levels with protein intake. I’m down 7 +\-2 lbs and am still gaining well in the gym. I will say it’s making my hip mad because now I have all that muscle and my hip stabilizers haven’t caught up yet. 

[RollingGreens]

Huge gains, had a lesson in Thursday and wasn’t getting into my trail leg enough for power. Orange whip 122, green super speed at 108, and blue super speed at 104. All personal highs. Hit my driver at 103 more consistently than a few weeks before which is encouraging. Would love to see the baseline for the driver above 100 consistently. I still have time periods where I fall below but the bottom speeds are definitely creeping up