Eric K Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I currently play a combo set of Mizuno MP-20’s. 4-7 HMB, 8-PW MMC WITH PX Precision Rifle 5.5 shafts. I absolutely love these clubs and play to a 7.8 hcp. I happened to pull a Big Bertha 2i from my son’s set and tried it the the simulator. A little tough to hit but when hit well, it goes! So I managed to find an MP-20 HMB 2i recently. It came with a Recoil 95 F4 shaft. Hit it today and it really took a while to settle in. Felt very clunky initially but eventually I hit it well. My question to the shaft gurus and fitters is this- would I be better off putting a PX 5.5 to match my set or would I be better off going in a different direction, or keeping the Recoil? And before anyone says get a hybrid, I have a Mizuno CLK 3H and hit it pretty well. This was a bit of an impulse purchase to have a similar club that flights a bit lower for windy conditions. Thanks! Quote Titleist TSi3 driver, 9.5 Tensei AV Raw White Stiff Titleist TSi2 3 wood Tensei AV Raw White Stiff Mizuno 2018 CLK 3 hybrid Mizuno MP-20 HMB 4-7 iron, MMC 8-PW Mizuno T-20 50 deg gap wedge Callaway Jaws 54 and 58 deg wedge Odyssey Stroke Lab One putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Eric K said: I currently play a combo set of Mizuno MP-20’s. 4-7 HMB, 8-PW MMC WITH PX Precision Rifle 5.5 shafts. I absolutely love these clubs and play to a 7.8 hcp. I happened to pull a Big Bertha 2i from my son’s set and tried it the the simulator. A little tough to hit but when hit well, it goes! So I managed to find an MP-20 HMB 2i recently. It came with a Recoil 95 F4 shaft. Hit it today and it really took a while to settle in. Felt very clunky initially but eventually I hit it well. My question to the shaft gurus and fitters is this- would I be better off putting a PX 5.5 to match my set or would I be better off going in a different direction, or keeping the Recoil? And before anyone says get a hybrid, I have a Mizuno CLK 3H and hit it pretty well. This was a bit of an impulse purchase to have a similar club that flights a bit lower for windy conditions. Thanks! ... There is not an easy answer and advice from a stranger that hasn't seen your swing is difficult at best. I will say unless you are just looking for max distance off the tee using the same shaft you have in you irons is always a good bet. A Hy shaft designed for a Utility iron will usually produce a higher flight and more distance. Your F4 and 5.5 may or may not produce similar results so trial and error should answer that for you. A completely different shaft can work well but it depends on how you load the shaft, what kind of trajectory you want and how much does feel effect performance for you. Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric K Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 I realize there's a number of variables and there is no specific answer. Just figured maybe guys have gone thru a similar situation and could shed some light on this. Thanks! Quote Titleist TSi3 driver, 9.5 Tensei AV Raw White Stiff Titleist TSi2 3 wood Tensei AV Raw White Stiff Mizuno 2018 CLK 3 hybrid Mizuno MP-20 HMB 4-7 iron, MMC 8-PW Mizuno T-20 50 deg gap wedge Callaway Jaws 54 and 58 deg wedge Odyssey Stroke Lab One putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Eric K said: I realize there's a number of variables and there is no specific answer. Just figured maybe guys have gone thru a similar situation and could shed some light on this. Thanks! I was just going to respond in a similar fashion to what chisag posted. A utility iron shaft in the 80 to 105 gram weight range is often a good fit in a 2 or 3 iron or driving iron. As a Professional Clubfitter, I have become a fan of the Mitsubishi Diamana “Thump” driving iron shafts, as well as the heavier Fujikura Ventus hybrid shafts (80 Series and above) for long iron and strong-lofted “player’s hybrid” installations. chisag and Eric K 2 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Eric K said: Just figured maybe guys have gone thru a similar situation and could shed some light on this. ... Yup, that's why we are here, to share our knowledge or learn from others. Eric K 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Altho have to echo all the above. I can day I have used a Evenflow Black in mine with good success. It is a ping crossover which don't label as driving iron, but that is in reality what it is. I would add length of shaft should be a priority. Ping make the settle shafted crossovers shorter and in the newest version all the shafts are shorter than they were and I do feel mine is a little on the long side. Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I can day I have used a Evenflow Black in mine with good success. It is a ping crossover which don't label as driving iron, but that is in reality what it is. I would add length of shaft should be a priority. Ping make the settle shafted crossovers shorter and in the newest version all the shafts are shorter than they were and I do feel mine is a little on the long side. ... Coming from a different angle I did the exact opposite. I was rotating a 19* DHy and a Sim2 3 hybrid and because they were very similar in distance, I re-shafted my DHy with a VS Proto 85 iron shaft at a 3 iron length. It replaces my 4 iron but is more versatile. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWL_9 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I had an impulse buy of the TaylorMade Stealth 2 UDI over the summer and just got it with the same shaft as the rest of my irons. I didn't hit it a ton, but was pretty inconsistent. Through my fitting at Club Champion over the weekend, I found it definitely wasn't the best shaft. A hybrid shaft was the much, much better fit (for me). chisag 1 Quote Bag: Big Max Dri Lite Summit Black/Red Driver: Callaway GBB Epic - Project X HZRDUS Smoke Green Small Batch "Hulk" 3 Wood: Callaway Epix Max - Aldila Ascent Red 2 Iron: TaylorMade Stealth UDI - LA Golf A Series Hybrid 4-AW Irons: TaylorMade P790 - KBS Tour 120g Stiff (1/4" long, 2* upright) 54* & 58* Wedges: Callaway Jaws MD5 Putter: Mizuno M Craft I Blue Ball: Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Missed this, but I ended up with a Evenflow Black in mine. Hindsight I wish I had gone with the Tour CB from Ping in the crossover. I think it would have been a better fit, but no doubt that the black allows you to really go after it and not have any hesitation! chisag 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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