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Eric K

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I currently play a combo set of Mizuno MP-20’s. 4-7 HMB, 8-PW MMC WITH PX Precision Rifle 5.5 shafts. I absolutely love these clubs and play to a 7.8 hcp. I happened to pull a Big Bertha 2i from my son’s set and tried it the the simulator. A little tough to hit but when hit well, it goes! So I managed to find an MP-20 HMB 2i recently. It came with a Recoil 95 F4 shaft. Hit it today and it really took a while to settle in. Felt very clunky initially but eventually I hit it well. My question to the shaft gurus and fitters is this- would I be better off putting a PX 5.5 to match my set or would I be better off going in a different direction, or keeping the Recoil? And before anyone says get a hybrid, I have a Mizuno CLK 3H and hit it pretty well. This was a bit of an impulse purchase to have a similar club that flights a bit lower for windy conditions. Thanks!

Titleist TSi3 driver, 9.5 Tensei AV Raw White Stiff

Titleist TSi2 3 wood Tensei AV Raw White Stiff

Mizuno 2018 CLK 3 hybrid

Mizuno MP-20 HMB 4-7 iron, MMC 8-PW

Mizuno T-20 50 deg gap wedge

Callaway Jaws 54 and 58 deg wedge

Odyssey Stroke Lab One putter

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1 hour ago, Eric K said:

I currently play a combo set of Mizuno MP-20’s. 4-7 HMB, 8-PW MMC WITH PX Precision Rifle 5.5 shafts. I absolutely love these clubs and play to a 7.8 hcp. I happened to pull a Big Bertha 2i from my son’s set and tried it the the simulator. A little tough to hit but when hit well, it goes! So I managed to find an MP-20 HMB 2i recently. It came with a Recoil 95 F4 shaft. Hit it today and it really took a while to settle in. Felt very clunky initially but eventually I hit it well. My question to the shaft gurus and fitters is this- would I be better off putting a PX 5.5 to match my set or would I be better off going in a different direction, or keeping the Recoil? And before anyone says get a hybrid, I have a Mizuno CLK 3H and hit it pretty well. This was a bit of an impulse purchase to have a similar club that flights a bit lower for windy conditions. Thanks!

 

... There is not an easy answer and advice from a stranger that hasn't seen your swing is difficult at best. I will say unless you are just looking for max distance off the tee using the same shaft you have in you irons is always a good bet. A Hy shaft designed for a Utility iron will usually produce a higher flight and more distance. Your F4 and 5.5 may or may not produce similar results so trial and error should answer that for you. A completely different shaft can work well but it depends on how you load the shaft, what kind of trajectory you want and how much does feel effect performance for you. 

Driver:     :taylormade-small:    Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R
Fairway:  :taylormade-small:    Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:  :ping-small:        430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r  
                  :taylormade-small:    DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy  
Irons:       :titleist-small:           '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:  :titleist-small:           Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :cobra-small:    Sport-60 33" 
Ball:           Maxfli/:taylormade-small:  Maxfli Tour/TP5x

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I realize there's a number of variables and there is no specific answer. Just figured maybe guys have gone thru a similar situation and could shed some light on this. Thanks!

Titleist TSi3 driver, 9.5 Tensei AV Raw White Stiff

Titleist TSi2 3 wood Tensei AV Raw White Stiff

Mizuno 2018 CLK 3 hybrid

Mizuno MP-20 HMB 4-7 iron, MMC 8-PW

Mizuno T-20 50 deg gap wedge

Callaway Jaws 54 and 58 deg wedge

Odyssey Stroke Lab One putter

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Just now, Eric K said:

I realize there's a number of variables and there is no specific answer. Just figured maybe guys have gone thru a similar situation and could shed some light on this. Thanks!

I was just going to respond in a similar fashion to what chisag posted. A utility iron shaft in the 80 to 105 gram weight range is often a good fit in a 2 or 3 iron or driving iron. As a Professional Clubfitter, I have become a fan of the Mitsubishi Diamana “Thump” driving iron shafts, as well as the heavier Fujikura Ventus hybrid shafts (80 Series and above) for long iron and strong-lofted “player’s hybrid” installations.

DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot

4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot

HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft

7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S

Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex

Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100

Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V

Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023)

Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops

Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote)

Spoiler

driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me!

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6 hours ago, Eric K said:

Just figured maybe guys have gone thru a similar situation and could shed some light on this.

 

... Yup, that's why we are here, to share our knowledge or learn from others. 👍

Driver:     :taylormade-small:    Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R
Fairway:  :taylormade-small:    Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:  :ping-small:        430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r  
                  :taylormade-small:    DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy  
Irons:       :titleist-small:           '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:  :titleist-small:           Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :cobra-small:    Sport-60 33" 
Ball:           Maxfli/:taylormade-small:  Maxfli Tour/TP5x

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Altho have to echo all the above. I can day I have used a Evenflow Black in mine with good success. It is a ping crossover which don't label as driving iron, but that is in reality what it is. I would add length of shaft should be a priority. Ping make the settle shafted crossovers shorter and in the newest version all the shafts are shorter than they were and I do feel mine is a little on the long side.

⛳🛄 as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB
Driver:  :callaway-small: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft

Irons:   :titleist-small: T Series - T200 5 Iron
                                          T150 6-9 Iron
                                          T100 PW/GW

Wedge:  Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree 

Putter:  Screenshot 2023-06-02 13.10.30.png Mezz Max!

Balls:     Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange)

 

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12 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I can day I have used a Evenflow Black in mine with good success. It is a ping crossover which don't label as driving iron, but that is in reality what it is. I would add length of shaft should be a priority. Ping make the settle shafted crossovers shorter and in the newest version all the shafts are shorter than they were and I do feel mine is a little on the long side.

 

... Coming from a different angle I did the exact opposite.  I was rotating a 19* DHy and a Sim2 3 hybrid and because they were very similar in distance, I re-shafted my DHy with a VS Proto 85 iron shaft at a 3 iron length. It replaces my 4 iron but is more versatile. 

Driver:     :taylormade-small:    Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R
Fairway:  :taylormade-small:    Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:  :ping-small:        430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r  
                  :taylormade-small:    DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy  
Irons:       :titleist-small:           '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:  :titleist-small:           Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :cobra-small:    Sport-60 33" 
Ball:           Maxfli/:taylormade-small:  Maxfli Tour/TP5x

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I had an impulse buy of the TaylorMade Stealth 2 UDI over the summer and just got it with the same shaft as the rest of my irons.  I didn't hit it a ton, but was pretty inconsistent. Through my fitting at Club Champion over the weekend, I found it definitely wasn't the best shaft.  A hybrid shaft was the much, much better fit (for me).   

Bag: Big Max Dri Lite Summit Black/Red
Driver: Callaway GBB Epic - Project X HZRDUS Smoke Green Small Batch "Hulk"
3 Wood: Callaway Epix Max - Aldila Ascent Red 
2 Iron: TaylorMade Stealth UDI - LA Golf A Series Hybrid
4-AW Irons: TaylorMade P790 - KBS Tour 120g Stiff (1/4" long, 2* upright)
54* & 58* Wedges: Callaway Jaws MD5
Putter: Mizuno M Craft I Blue
Ball: Vice Pro Plus

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Missed this, but I ended up with a Evenflow Black in mine. Hindsight I wish I had gone with the Tour CB from Ping in the crossover. I think it would have been a better fit, but no doubt that the black allows you to really go after it and not have any hesitation!

⛳🛄 as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB
Driver:  :callaway-small: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft

Irons:   :titleist-small: T Series - T200 5 Iron
                                          T150 6-9 Iron
                                          T100 PW/GW

Wedge:  Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree 

Putter:  Screenshot 2023-06-02 13.10.30.png Mezz Max!

Balls:     Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange)

 

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