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Hello Michael-

 

I've got a bunch of questions haha.

 

Let me start by telling you a little about myself. I'm 6'0" 145 pounds. Yes, I know that is tall & skinny. However, I am very strong & pretty muscular. The problem is I can't gain weight. I'm intrigued about what adding 20-30 pounds of muscle could do for my golf game.

 

On a normal day I eat a lot of snacks: Lance peanut butter crackers, beef jerkey, the ocassional candy bar. I work in a golf shop. I usually eat one big meal per day at night. The rest of the time it is just small snacks & supplements.

 

The supplements I take: One protein shake a day on average ON 100% Whey. About 5gs Creatine Monohydrate. Multivitamin. Fish Oil & Flax Oil. Antioxidants.

 

I just started taking some BCAA's the last couple days after reading through this forum ha.

 

I eat & lift weights & get plenty of sleep but never gain a pound. ????

 

I lift weights about 2 days a week. Usually I do heavy weight & low reps & few sets. Even though I think I am in pretty good shape I tend to tire out quickly. My muscles are literally dying after a couple sets. My energy levels stay very low most of the time. ???

 

So I'm looking to gain weight (muscle) & up my energy level.

 

Help me out.

 

Thanks

 

Gatorheels,

 

welcome aboard you tall skinny one. your obviously a "hard gainer" ectomorph genetically. your rules are quite different than most. i started off like you, now i find it funny when people say "oh its easy for you to gain weight". yeah ok whatever. but i've been in your position (albeit lower to the ground).

 

before i give you a run down, i need a few questions to help me out first-

 

age?

physical exertion level? (working in a golf shop i will assume aside from working out moderate to low)

 

 

thanks

Michael

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Age- 27

 

Job- Yeah I just work in a golf shop. It isn't physically demanding at all. I do have to stand up all day though ha.

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Hello Michael-

 

I've got a bunch of questions haha.

 

Let me start by telling you a little about myself. I'm 6'0" 145 pounds. Yes, I know that is tall & skinny. However, I am very strong & pretty muscular. The problem is I can't gain weight. I'm intrigued about what adding 20-30 pounds of muscle could do for my golf game.

 

On a normal day I eat a lot of snacks: Lance peanut butter crackers, beef jerkey, the ocassional candy bar. I work in a golf shop. I usually eat one big meal per day at night. The rest of the time it is just small snacks & supplements.

 

The supplements I take: One protein shake a day on average ON 100% Whey. About 5gs Creatine Monohydrate. Multivitamin. Fish Oil & Flax Oil. Antioxidants.

 

I just started taking some BCAA's the last couple days after reading through this forum ha.

 

I eat & lift weights & get plenty of sleep but never gain a pound. ????

 

I lift weights about 2 days a week. Usually I do heavy weight & low reps & few sets. Even though I think I am in pretty good shape I tend to tire out quickly. My muscles are literally dying after a couple sets. My energy levels stay very low most of the time. ???

 

So I'm looking to gain weight (muscle) & up my energy level.

 

Help me out.

 

Thanks

 

 

Age- 27

 

Job- Yeah I just work in a golf shop. It isn't physically demanding at all. I do have to stand up all day though ha.

 

Well theres a few simple things i would suggest you do first to gain size.

 

1- get your blood work done. would you actually buy a driver without hitting it on a launch monitor? i dont guess what anyones biochemistry is before i make suggestions. so get to your MD and ask him to get your thyroid panel (tsh,t3,and t4), testosterone (free and total), estrogen (total and frac), chem panel, hgh, igf-1,lipid 1, fsh/lh, psa all tested - and see where the hell your at.

 

most insurances will cover this.

 

i would be interested in specifically where your thyroid numbers are. i would venture a little on the high end. and your test levels prob a little low. but lets look at the numbers to be sure.

 

secondly - your intake of food sucks. your not eating anywhere near the correct amount of food. i understand work and life get in the way of things, but your asking to build something, and hence things of this nature need adequate time and effort put towards them. 6ft 145lbs is way undersized - *if* your goal is to be 200lbs (imo good size for 6ft) nutritionally you gotta look at gradually building up your protein intake 20grams/day each a week until you hit 300g/day. this way we wont overload your GI trac and you can start to absorb more. best sources are eggs, and lean proteins. load up on your energy sources incrementally as well. start at 200g/day of clean carbs a day and work it up to 20g a week till you get to ~ 400-500g/day spread throughout the day. Also continue to take your EFA's omega 3's and omega 6's a day.

 

supplementally your doing well. keep that going.

 

hope this gives you a good starting point, keep us posted on your bloodwork and progress.

 

MM

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Michael,

 

Just wanted to let you know that I took delivery of a jar of BCAA's the other day. The taste is OUTSTANDING mixed with water. I got the berry banana and it tastes like a good sports drink. I also like the small scoop size - I hate having to chug down a liter of water just to get the mix to dissolve. Can't really say anything about results as this is only day 3, but I was hurting after yesterday's workout and woke up with minimal soreness, so that's good. I'll keep you all posted on how things are going.

 

-Matt

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Michael,

 

Just wanted to let you know that I took delivery of a jar of BCAA's the other day. The taste is OUTSTANDING mixed with water. I got the berry banana and it tastes like a good sports drink. I also like the small scoop size - I hate having to chug down a liter of water just to get the mix to dissolve. Can't really say anything about results as this is only day 3, but I was hurting after yesterday's workout and woke up with minimal soreness, so that's good. I'll keep you all posted on how things are going.

 

-Matt

 

 

Fantastic Matt, its great to hear. keep us posted on your progress!

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Hey everyone! Hope your all finding time to play with cooperating weather.

 

with travel, clients, work and the launch of 3 new products, i've been non-stop and have played only 1 time all month ugh! - (did play 36 though).

 

A few congratulations are in order to my friend PGA Pro Rob Labritz out of the GlenArbor golf club in Bedford Hills NY. He had shoulder surgery early in the year, and didnt know how long he would have to wait till he was able to swing a club again - never mind play golf again. I started working with him in February after the PGA Show and put him on a good growth diet (at 6'1 170lbs i want to get him to a lean 210 by years end), and supplemented him with BCAA's. Well during the winter he did what I asked, and started to make progress and feel better about his workouts and shoulder and decided to make a few trips to florida and actually hit some balls for the first time post op. Things went well, and he felt that the BCAA's was making a big difference. I was able to do a demo day with him in April at his club, and get him to kick up the training and diet up a level. So I prepped him nutritionally for his first event of the year, the Met Section PGA Match play event. He shot -2 under 70 to qualify 5th in the match play, and went on to beat some pretty heavy hitters in the Met section before getting beat in the finals. (Note he didnt lose, just got beat by someone who played better). The big "win" of the event was that for the first time post surgery, at 38 years old, he is in the best shape of his life, up to 184lbs, and was able to play 6 rounds of golf in 4 days in some hot weather and felt like it was nothing.

 

Its great to have the opportunity to work with players that have such a skill set in place, and just be able to work on their nutrition and get them to peak for 4 days of high level of golf.

 

We employed a few cool techniques using some very advanced nutritional products (rice, pasta, steak, fish, peanut butter and jelly LOL) and fine tuned him along the way. While on the course he was drinking BCAA's which kept the cortisol, and adrenaline hormones at bay.

 

Last year Rob missed getting through sectionals for the USOpen by 1 shot citing fatigue was his major factor. Unfortunately this past week he just missed getting through local qualifying by 1 shot - though fatigue was not an issue.

 

I've got about 5 weeks to work with him for the next event, the National Professional Championship out in French Lick Indiana (Yes, Larry Bird is GOD country). We are adding a few things into his arsenal to keep him in a pro-growth (anabolic) environment, and get him up to around 190lbs for the event and get his arse into the PGA Championships.

 

Best to All -

Michael

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FYI for anyone interested - I've got a radio interview tonight on Loudmouth Golf Radio - live from 7-9 EST. If your in the Orlando area its on the ESPN Affiliate AM 740 The Game, also live on the internet at www.740thegame.com

 

I'll see if i can sneak in a shout out to MGS =)

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pretty blown away with an email i got today i wanted to share. once in a while when you think your being humble - something like this takes it to a whoooooole new level - a big Congrats and thank you to the young lady -

 

 

 

Hello Michael-

 

Approximately 1 year ago, I purchased your Atomic Golf book to present to a friend at work,

whose daughter had just won the state girls golf title (large school class) as an 11 th

grader. He soon reported that the book was put to good use by her, it became her study guide

and she became a big believer in it's principles. He reported to me recently that he found her

once again consulting it recently the night before she set out to defend her title. Although she

did not win this year (she took 4th, and led after day 1), she is considered one of the best amateurs in

state history, and has a full scholarship to Colorado State this fall. It is probably safe to say that

her 'golfing bible' will be going to Fort Collins with her.

 

Dave P.

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Very happy to report one of my nutrition clients and friends Rob Labritz finished birdie-birdie to jump 21 spots on the day and finish t-15 - securing his spot at the PGA Championship,

 

he's put on 10lbs of lean muscle mass while still managing his job, family and playing, all coming off of off season shoulder surgery. playing better each day with scores of 75-72-72-70=289

 

all you guys heading up to Kohler in August, go follow Rob.biggrin.gif

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So I've been on the site for a little over a month now and I've finally decided to check out the "fitness and nutrition" section ;).... Honestly my head is spinning with all of the detailed information on here. I can't keep up. One thing that you talked about really hit home though, since it's a product that I've been using.

 

Someone asked about EAS and Muscle Milk, and you mentioned the economy size EAS bag from Costco. Of course, that's been my one supplement for the last year!! I just finished up a bag about a week ago and was going to ask my wife to pick up more until you mentioned that it possibly makes you bloated OR have to run to the bathroom (which I haven't experienced thankfully).

 

I'm 6'5", 250lbs. I'm looking to slim down to around 220 (well I actually don't really care what the number on the scale says, I just want my body composition to change and I don't want to be big/bulky). Basically I just want to become more lean. Anyway, I eat pretty well for the most part, and I've been working out, but I'm looking for a good supplement to help. If you would recommend just one supplement what would it be? I've seen other posts that show several different products that you use thruout the day, but I don't have the budget to purchase all of those.

 

Is it possible to say that just one would be a big helper in me obtaining my goals? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks for your time, and have a great day!

 

Kyle

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So I've been on the site for a little over a month now and I've finally decided to check out the "fitness and nutrition" section :).... Honestly my head is spinning with all of the detailed information on here. I can't keep up. One thing that you talked about really hit home though, since it's a product that I've been using.

 

Someone asked about EAS and Muscle Milk, and you mentioned the economy size EAS bag from Costco. Of course, that's been my one supplement for the last year!! I just finished up a bag about a week ago and was going to ask my wife to pick up more until you mentioned that it possibly makes you bloated OR have to run to the bathroom (which I haven't experienced thankfully).

 

I'm 6'5", 250lbs. I'm looking to slim down to around 220 (well I actually don't really care what the number on the scale says, I just want my body composition to change and I don't want to be big/bulky). Basically I just want to become more lean. Anyway, I eat pretty well for the most part, and I've been working out, but I'm looking for a good supplement to help. If you would recommend just one supplement what would it be? I've seen other posts that show several different products that you use thruout the day, but I don't have the budget to purchase all of those.

 

Is it possible to say that just one would be a big helper in me obtaining my goals? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks for your time, and have a great day!

 

Kyle

 

Kyle -

 

Welcome to MGS, this is a fun place i hope you feel welcome here. the ones of us that started this from the beginning take alot of pride in it.

 

to answer your question - BE CAREFUL FROM WHEY PROTEIN. it CAN cause kidney issues. i have read some alarming studies as of late that show more harm than any of the good that could occur from it. first off all the whey proteins on the market dont have the protein content that is on the label. and nevermind the "acceptable levels" of lead arsenic and cadmium in your powder. sorry there is no acceptable level of heavy metals in my body. IMO Eating real food is always better than Whey.

 

 

Michael

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Kyle -

 

Welcome to MGS, this is a fun place i hope you feel welcome here. the ones of us that started this from the beginning take alot of pride in it.

 

to answer your question - BE CAREFUL FROM WHEY PROTEIN. it CAN cause kidney issues. i have read some alarming studies as of late that show more harm than any of the good that could occur from it. first off all the whey proteins on the market dont have the protein content that is on the label. and nevermind the "acceptable levels" of lead arsenic and cadmium in your powder. sorry there is no acceptable level of heavy metals in my body. IMO Eating real food is always better than Whey.

 

 

Michael

 

 

 

 

Thanks a lot for the info Michael. I'll give it a whirl. One thing I noticed is that it appears to be in capsule or tablet form. Is there a powder version that you're aware of? If not how do you use it as a meal replacement or in shakes?

 

Thanks again and have a great weekend!

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Hi Michael. Got any good tips for strengthening the wrists that won't cause carpal tunnel or similar type problems? I don't even know if that is my problem, but I have figured out that I have a HORRIBLE problem with bringing my club face through on any kind of consistent basis. One shot it is a 30* push, the next a 20' draw, the next a wicked hook, the next a nice fade, the next a slice that would do a banana proud. I take care to grip the club the same every time and make sure the club face is square at address. I am pretty sure my problem is in my wrist action at the moment of impact.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi Michael. Got any good tips for strengthening the wrists that won't cause carpal tunnel or similar type problems? I don't even know if that is my problem, but I have figured out that I have a HORRIBLE problem with bringing my club face through on any kind of consistent basis. One shot it is a 30* push, the next a 20' draw, the next a wicked hook, the next a nice fade, the next a slice that would do a banana proud. I take care to grip the club the same every time and make sure the club face is square at address. I am pretty sure my problem is in my wrist action at the moment of impact.

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

Cheymike - brilliant Columbus/Trevino quote in your signature LOL

 

Strengthening the wrists for the sake of strengthening the wrists will unfortunately only make your grip on the 30*push and the 20*hook only more firm.

 

ie - If your trying to hammer a nail into the wall but keep missing the nail, a stronger grip will only make your grip firmer as you continue to repeatedly hit the wall.

 

Point being, you need to understand what is the best hand and wrist action for you first. for a right handed golfer that would mean that at impact the shaft lines up with the left forearm and not the right as is most common - check out impact drill IV page 251 in Atomic Golf it breaks it down piece by piece for you.

 

if you still feel you need stronger forearms (the wrists cannot be strengthened as you put it, they are merely a joint controlled by the forearm muscles) - i personally never trained forearms as when one trains their back muscles, the forearms take a pounding - but a simple forearm exercise you can do is this exercise either palm up as in the video or palm down

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb99wBkcQd0

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Mike, Hate to put you on the spot, but I am assuming you have run across Jaacob Bowden's program to improve swing speed. What are your thoughts about his science and theory? With tendinitis in both elbows and a pending ECU surgery after the golf season, my orthopedic guy has told me if I pick up a weight I am playing with dynamite, and that resistance bands are as far as I should go at this time, and probably forever.

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Mike, Hate to put you on the spot, but I am assuming you have run across Jaacob Bowden's program to improve swing speed. What are your thoughts about his science and theory? With tendinitis in both elbows and a pending ECU surgery after the golf season, my orthopedic guy has told me if I pick up a weight I am playing with dynamite, and that resistance bands are as far as I should go at this time, and probably forever.

 

Phana - not the timeliest of replies I know, but this one snuck past me somehow.

 

I have not heard of Mr Bowden's program, quick google search didnt say much - can you pm me some information on him?

 

As far as your tendinitis - speaking from experience md's tend to blow things out of proportion. with that said, tendinitis is an inflammation of the tendons and you need to find out what caused the inflammation and bring that down. ice works magic, as do some anti-aging medications that promote healing and overall general well being. i'd talk to an anti-aging doctor and see what he can prescribe to you that will actually repair the injury vs covering it up or masking it.

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Michael,

 

Read a lot of your stuff on here and most of it seems to be guys asking your help in order to lose weight and get fitter and stronger in the process.

 

I am however at the opposite end of the spectrum. I would love to 'Bulk up' a bit, preferably doing exercises that I can do in the comfort of my own home (also without spending too much!). I currently have access to a set of free weights at home but thats about it! Currently weigh about 140lbs, 6ft tall, never really done any strength training before! Just lanky and lazy with a fast metabolism!

 

Ideally (as I'm sure we all would), I would obviously like the exercise to help me with my golf game (hitting the ball further, straighter/ more consistent). I understand this can be done with various methods. I think that from what I have read, increasing mass, flexibility and stability would all be really useful for me.

 

Just decided to start the 100 press ups, 200 sit ups and 200 squats training today which last for 6 weeks I believe... will be interesting to see how they go- should get me through overseeding out here in Arizona at least!

 

But yeh, I'd be interested to hear any advice or tips you may have, and also whether or not you would recommend starting to take protein shakes or something similar for this type of workout.

 

I look forward to hearing anything you have to say!

 

Many thanks,

 

Philip (phil.b89)

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Michael,

 

Read a lot of your stuff on here and most of it seems to be guys asking your help in order to lose weight and get fitter and stronger in the process.

 

I am however at the opposite end of the spectrum. I would love to 'Bulk up' a bit, preferably doing exercises that I can do in the comfort of my own home (also without spending too much!). I currently have access to a set of free weights at home but thats about it! Currently weigh about 140lbs, 6ft tall, never really done any strength training before! Just lanky and lazy with a fast metabolism!

 

Ideally (as I'm sure we all would), I would obviously like the exercise to help me with my golf game (hitting the ball further, straighter/ more consistent). I understand this can be done with various methods. I think that from what I have read, increasing mass, flexibility and stability would all be really useful for me.

 

Just decided to start the 100 press ups, 200 sit ups and 200 squats training today which last for 6 weeks I believe... will be interesting to see how they go- should get me through overseeding out here in Arizona at least!

 

But yeh, I'd be interested to hear any advice or tips you may have, and also whether or not you would recommend starting to take protein shakes or something similar for this type of workout.

 

I look forward to hearing anything you have to say!

 

Many thanks,

 

Philip (phil.b89)

 

Philip -

 

Thanks for posting on here. I can speak from experience as when I played the mini tours back in 2000 i was 128lbs soaking wet, getting outdriven by 80 yards, and hitting fairway woods into par fours to my competitors 8/9/PW's.

 

Right then and there i realized I needed to get bigger but no clue how to, so hopefully, i can help you amigo biggrin.gif

 

Being that you are 6' 140# you need to eat bro, and eat big. Take a look at the chart below - You gotta start pushing 20-23 calories x your body weight a day at the minimum in order to put some size on.

 

Calorie Needs per Day per Pound of Bodyweight

HBW x 8-10 cals = to meet your BMR (Or Diet Off Some Fat)

HBW x 11-13 cals = to meet your BMR and a sedentary lifestyle

HBW x 13-15 cals = to meet your BMR and light activity

HBW x 15-17 cals = to meet your BMR and moderate activity

HBW x 18-20 cals= to meet your BMR and heavy activity/training.

HBW x 20-23 cals= to add body mass

*HBW = Healthy Body Weight

 

I'd suggest eating clean carbohydrates like pasta, rice, oatmeal, yams, and a ton of them!!!! Get your essential fatty acids in as well from supplements, like omega 3-6-9 fish oils, peanut butter, avocados, nuts etc.

 

I was to the point where i was eating 8-10 meals a day at during my first big growth spurt.

 

As far as your exercise routines go, your going to have to train with a plan to build your body symmetrically - otherwise your going to throw off your golf swing with an imbalance. unfortunately most exercise programs for golf inadvertently do just that - they do sport specific training which is the WORST thing for you to do as it builds one piece bigger than the rest. NOT IDEAL!!!!

 

Thanks for your question and keep us posted on your progress -

Michael

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Hi Mike,

 

Over the last couple of years I've let my fitness slip a bit. Between moving farther away from my gym (and office), working longer hours (I basically have 1 full-time job and 2 part-time jobs), and playing a lot more golf (walking whenever the course permits), I don't have the same windows of time I used to. Toss in a one month old and any hope of resuming my old workout routine are out the window (which is more or less counter productive as far as the golf game goes).

 

All that said, I'm tired of making excuses (and buying bigger pants). The simplest solution, I think, is to supplement my infrequent (realistically 2x a week at best) trips to the gym with some type of daily workout at home. I've looked at treadmill and ellipticals for home, but a quality machine is easily over a grand (probably more) and neither does for flexibility, core strength, or anything else for that matter. I'm a big fan of the gravity machines, but I'm not sold on the Chuck Norris home model, and they don't offer much of a cardio workout.

 

What I think makes a whole lot of sense space-wise, financially, and in terms of what I'm hoping to achieve (better overall fitness with an emphasis on the "golf muscles") is a kettlebell routine. I was wondering if you had any particular thoughts on a kettlebells both in general, and in terms of golf-specific fitness, or if you had any alternative suggestions for a home-based workout regimen?

 

Thanks,

T

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