Beakbryce Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Is the Players really the strongest field in golf? Pretty much aren't the same players playing this weekend also at the PGA, US Open and British Open? I realize the Masters has less players, but aren't the top players involved? Can any field call itself the toughest when Dustin Johnson, Brooks Koepka, Bryson DeChambeau, Joaquin Niemann, and the DEFENDING CHAMPION, Cam Smith are not in the field? I mean most if not all these guys will be in the majors. Not defending LIV, but I can't stand the self-aggrandizing from the Tour over it's flagship tournament. Thoughts? GolfSpy_APH, JFish350, Jim Shaw and 1 other 3 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Beakbryce said: Is the Players really the strongest field in golf? Pretty much aren't the same players playing this weekend also at the PGA, US Open and British Open? I realize the Masters has less players, but aren't the top players involved? Can any field call itself the toughest when Dustin Johnson, Brooks Koepka, Bryson DeChambeau, Joaquin Niemann, and the DEFENDING CHAMPION, Cam Smith are not in the field? I mean most if not all these guys will be in the majors. Not defending LIV, but I can't stand the self-aggrandizing from the Tour over it's flagship tournament. Thoughts? Yes. When you look at the strength of field rankings of the players vs the majors, the players has a higher strength of field. Its based on the world rankings of the field and when you look at majors there are players that have exemptions to them that may not currently be ranked high. And yes when those players aren’t in the field it can still be a stronger field because their world rankings are dropping Ben_Howell34 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Beakbryce said: Is the Players really the strongest field in golf? Pretty much aren't the same players playing this weekend also at the PGA, US Open and British Open? I realize the Masters has less players, but aren't the top players involved? If looking at the field from top to bottom (all players in the event) it is probably the strongest field. The Masters has past champions and players that probably shouldn't be playing in the event. The PGA has non touring professionals, the US and British Open have spots for non professionals to quality. Merlin1313 and GolfSpy_APH 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2puttbogey Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 It’s just sensationalism by the announcers. It’s done with constantly thought out every broadcast. Merlin1313 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakbryce Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, cnosil said: If looking at the field from top to bottom (all players in the event) it is probably the strongest field. The Masters has past champions and players that probably shouldn't be playing in the event. The PGA has non touring professionals, the US and British Open have spots for non professionals to quality. I understand this argument. Nicklaus has always said the Masters was the easiest Major to win because it was a small field with the player problems you mentioned. For the Opens, I realize that the bottom of the field has qualifiers, but many in the Players field will be in those tournaments trying to qualify for the Opens and won't make it. There are what, 20-25 club pros in the PGA with hardly any making the cut every year. However, some of the chaff is the difference in the size of the field, with 144 at the Players and 156 at the PGA and both Opens. This causes problems when averaging the strength of field. It's not apples to apples, it's apples to oranges. Edited March 10, 2023 by Beakbryce Merlin1313 and cnosil 2 Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaDawg Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Beakbryce said: Is the Players really the strongest field in golf? Pretty much aren't the same players playing this weekend also at the PGA, US Open and British Open? I realize the Masters has less players, but aren't the top players involved? Can any field call itself the toughest when Dustin Johnson, Brooks Koepka, Bryson DeChambeau, Joaquin Niemann, and the DEFENDING CHAMPION, Cam Smith are not in the field? I mean most if not all these guys will be in the majors. Not defending LIV, but I can't stand the self-aggrandizing from the Tour over it's flagship tournament. Thoughts? Heck, I don't even know who half the golfers are. Merlin1313 and TheOther1 2 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Stealth Plus - 10.5*, Oban Kiyoshi Purple O4Flex-65 Grams Purred 3 Wood: SIM - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff Hybrid: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 8 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakbryce Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Yes. When you look at the strength of field rankings of the players vs the majors, the players has a higher strength of field. Its based on the world rankings of the field and when you look at majors there are players that have exemptions to them that may not currently be ranked high. And yes when those players aren’t in the field it can still be a stronger field because their world rankings are dropping Has anyone actually done the math? Just curious. The Masters is pretty obvious, but the others? Since the Players has 144 players, if you take the top 144 from the other Majors, will they statistically be worse? Any math guys out there that want to report back later in the year? Will this be skewed because the OWGR doesn't properly represent the LIV players? Which goes to LIV golfers diluting the strength of field. Are the LIV player rankings dropping because of an artificial barrier using OWGR, or because they actually suck at playing golf? There are 9 of the top 10 at the Players. I believe the one missing, is Cam Smith who is the defending champion. I reckon all 10 will be at the Majors barring injury. Jason Costain and Merlin1313 2 Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Beakbryce said: Has anyone actually done the math? Just curious. The Masters is pretty obvious, but the others? Since the Players has 144 players, if you take the top 144 from the other Majors, will they statistically be worse? Any math guys out there that want to report back later in the year? Will this be skewed because the OWGR doesn't properly represent the LIV players? Which goes to LIV golfers diluting the strength of field. Are the LIV player rankings dropping because of an artificial barrier using OWGR, or because they actually suck at playing golf? There are 9 of the top 10 at the Players. I believe the one missing, is Cam Smith who is the defending champion. I reckon all 10 will be at the Majors barring injury. https://datagolf.com/field-strength-table Based on my quick evaluation, the events that have stronger fields than the Players are limited field events. Merlin1313 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Beakbryce said: Has anyone actually done the math? Just curious. The Masters is pretty obvious, but the others? Since the Players has 144 players, if you take the top 144 from the other Majors, will they statistically be worse? Any math guys out there that want to report back later in the year? Will this be skewed because the OWGR doesn't properly represent the LIV players? OWGR does represent them because it’s based on how they play over the course of 2 years. If they aren’t playing events that earn points they are going to lose points. There’s also no guarantee that if they were still on the pga tour they would have success this year to keep them at their current rankink. Outside of cam smith most have been on the decline for awhile. I get it you think because of their name recognition and past success they are still top players, but again other than smith most were dropping out of the top 10 and even top 20 before they went to liv 1 hour ago, Beakbryce said: Which goes to LIV golfers diluting the strength of field. Are the LIV player rankings dropping because of an artificial barrier using OWGR, or because they actually suck at playing golf? It’s a combo. They were losing spots while they were on the pga tour and now the less they play in events earning points their rankings are going to drop. 1 hour ago, Beakbryce said: There are 9 of the top 10 at the Players. I believe the one missing, is Cam Smith who is the defending champion. I reckon all 10 will be at the Majors barring injury. This is why the players is the toughest field in golf. It doesn’t matter the names that are there it’s the number of highly ranked players from top to bottom of the field. as cnosil posted the strength of fields is always posted year to year and the players beats out the majors, no need for any math guys here, there are already places where the numbers are calculated Merlin1313 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf. S Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 My tuppence worth. Players competitiveness wax and wane and IMO with the exception of Cam Smith and perhaps DJ they would not strengthen the field. We can debate all we like about the strongest/toughest field or not but at the end of the day the LIV golfers have their massive pay outs and joined for this reason alone, It irks me somewhat that some of the LIV players are still eligible to play on the European events and they turn up only for the flag ship events, depriving up and coming players the opportunity to secure playing rights and get their biggest purse of the year. What are people like Poulter going to do with the $100k for making the cut, buy another Ferrari? Merlin1313 1 Quote WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I'm going to guess one of the Majors will have a better field. This is a great field, but not much different than other designated events. The best fields will include Cam and DJ... okay maybe throw Brooks and Bryson in there too. However I can't say that this is a bad field or I don't think it is a great field without those LIV players. It is another great event, with some star power and top players who will hopefully have good weeks along with some surprises to make for an entertaining week of golf to watch. Merlin1313, Beakbryce and Jason Costain 3 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Beakbryce said: Is the Players really the strongest field in golf? Pretty much aren't the same players playing this weekend also at the PGA, US Open and British Open? I realize the Masters has less players, but aren't the top players involved? Can any field call itself the toughest when Dustin Johnson, Brooks Koepka, Bryson DeChambeau, Joaquin Niemann, and the DEFENDING CHAMPION, Cam Smith are not in the field? I mean most if not all these guys will be in the majors. Not defending LIV, but I can't stand the self-aggrandizing from the Tour over it's flagship tournament. Thoughts? just to comment on your masters thought, it is the weakest on paper of all the majors, as it is an invitational and their traditions allow past winners in perpetuity, once you scrape through all the "special" invites and the old players there is usually only 20 players legitimately able to win at Agusta.... having said that it is still my favourite. Merlin1313 1 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 the US open would be the deepest field as it allows golfers to qualify for the event. Merlin1313 and Javs 2 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Each of the Majors and top tier events have deep fields, a unique qualification process which make that event special. They all have unbelievable pressure and the fields, purses and courses played reflect the uniqueness of the event. Jim Shaw and Beakbryce 2 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Beakbryce said: Has anyone actually done the math? Just curious. The Masters is pretty obvious, but the others? Since the Players has 144 players, if you take the top 144 from the other Majors, will they statistically be worse? Any math guys out there that want to report back later in the year? Will this be skewed because the OWGR doesn't properly represent the LIV players? Which goes to LIV golfers diluting the strength of field. Are the LIV player rankings dropping because of an artificial barrier using OWGR, or because they actually suck at playing golf? There are 9 of the top 10 at the Players. I believe the one missing, is Cam Smith who is the defending champion. I reckon all 10 will be at the Majors barring injury. Aside from the Tour Championship, it's arguably the strongest the now weakened PGA will field in any event this year. The tour has lost some serious talent and regardless of OWGR points, these guys not being in events has weakened PGA fields collectively. GaDawg, Jim Shaw and Beakbryce 2 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakbryce Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: Aside from the Tour Championship, it's arguably the strongest the now weakened PGA will field in any event this year. The tour has lost some serious talent and regardless of OWGR points, these guys not being in events has weakened PGA fields collectively. I couldn't have said it better than this. Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Jerry Kelly is in the field for god's sake. He is 56 years old (no offense) and obviously is unranked via OWGR. Kelly Kraft, Nick Watney, Doc Redan, Dylan Wu, Andrew Novak, Aaron Baddeley, Austin Smotherman. I think there are a decent number of Korn Ferry players that could beat these guys most weeks. Edited March 10, 2023 by vandyland Quote STZ 230 9.5* PinHawk SLF 16* STZ 230 Hybrid 21.25* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* Glide 4.0 (S) 58* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Maxfli Tour X Official Review -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63068-testers-announced-maxfli-tour-x-golf-balls-with-max-align-technology/?do=findComment&comment=1021832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I'm going to guess one of the Majors will have a better field. This is a great field, but not much different than other designated events. The best fields will include Cam and DJ... okay maybe throw Brooks and Bryson in there too. However I can't say that this is a bad field or I don't think it is a great field without those LIV players. It is another great event, with some star power and top players who will hopefully have good weeks along with some surprises to make for an entertaining week of golf to watch. Best field from fan or name recognition or best field from strength of field perspective? 3 hours ago, Jim Shaw said: the US open would be the deepest field as it allows golfers to qualify for the event. Deepest as far as what? Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 When I think of the PGA's "it's merely a scratch" response to players departing for LIV, this skit immediately comes to mind. GaDawg 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Best field from fan or name recognition or best field from strength of field perspective? Deepest as far as what? Deepest as far as skilled players Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Jim Shaw said: Deepest as far as skilled players Is it though? The strength of field rankings would indicate the most skilled players are in the events with the stronger fields and the US Open isn’t one of them. There are less skilled players in those based on the fact there are spots filled by high level ams and many times top tour pros who aren’t exempted don’t qualify for it via the qualifying events. Just go back to the last couple years and see how many pga pros missed qualifying in the last round of the qualifiers. If I read the data right the Genesis invitational has a deeper field. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, vandyland said: Jerry Kelly is in the field for god's sake. He is 56 years old (no offense) and obviously is unranked via OWGR. Kelly Kraft, Nick Watney, Doc Redan, Dylan Wu, Andrew Novak, Aaron Baddeley, Austin Smotherman. I think there are a decent number of Korn Ferry players that could beat these guys most weeks. It looks very much like Jerry Kelly will play the weekend and a healthy handful of top shelf ranked players will not. I really feel the "strength of field" thing is overplayed. Javs, vandyland and GaDawg 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said: It looks very much like Jerry Kelly will play the weekend and a healthy handful of top shelf ranked players will not. I really feel the "strength of field" thing is overplayed. My post didn’t “age” well haha. But still, it doesn’t strengthen the field to have Kelly in it BUT it is a course he can actually play because it isn’t crazy long. GaDawg 1 Quote STZ 230 9.5* PinHawk SLF 16* STZ 230 Hybrid 21.25* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* Glide 4.0 (S) 58* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Maxfli Tour X Official Review -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63068-testers-announced-maxfli-tour-x-golf-balls-with-max-align-technology/?do=findComment&comment=1021832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, vandyland said: My post didn’t “age” well haha. But still, it doesn’t strengthen the field to have Kelly in it BUT it is a course he can actually play because it isn’t crazy long. Probably should remember horses for courses…..ha ha Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, vandyland said: My post didn’t “age” well haha. But still, it doesn’t strengthen the field to have Kelly in it BUT it is a course he can actually play because it isn’t crazy long. Doesn’t matter the name of a person or their rank, it’s the rankings of all the field. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Strength of field is different this year to others with how OWGR has changed too. Also I really don't give consideration to FedEx cup standings as they are still weighted towards the fall season point totals. I think seeing how the LIV guys perform at the masters will give us insight to how much rust those players have and where they stand in the pecking order! Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaDawg Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Strength of field is different this year to others with how OWGR has changed too. Also I really don't give consideration to FedEx cup standings as they are still weighted towards the fall season point totals. I think seeing how the LIV guys perform at the masters will give us insight to how much rust those players have and where they stand in the pecking order! Well here's a toast hoping someone from LIV wins the Masters. Javs 1 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Stealth Plus - 10.5*, Oban Kiyoshi Purple O4Flex-65 Grams Purred 3 Wood: SIM - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff Hybrid: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 8 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, GaDawg said: Well here's a toast hoping someone from LIV wins the Masters. Yeah I won't be toasting to that. Sorry. Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, GaDawg said: Well here's a toast hoping someone from LIV wins the Masters. Other than Cam Smith, I don't see me rooting for any of the LIV players to win The Masters. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTourney Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Can't wait to see Smith walking tall carrying a big stick at Augusta...game on! Quote Good hand action comes from good body action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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