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Common(ish) problem with hybrids. Some of the Callaway Hybrids I have heard many guys have had success with and I am pretty sure Ping has the flat lie with theirs. For what its worth I have the Titleist H10 (have to double check the model), but that in the flat setting is super hard to turn over. Really impressed with it!

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Something like this is works better if you tend to pull hybrids. 7 wood length, no offset. Super-hybrid size and shape

https://www.golfworks.com/maltby-ke4-tc-hyway-utility-woods/p/ma0331/

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I have the same issue trying to upgrade my self assembled 90's era Quick Strike hybrids.  I have tried a few over the years but keep going back to the QS's because of the left miss that pops up with the potential replacements.  Fortunately I have them in a few different lofts so as I lose distance from year to year I just swap in one with a few degrees less in loft to get the same distance.  The 23* used to be the 200 yard club but over time its now the 18*.  I think I may need the 15* for that shot this year with some swing challenges that came up over the winter.  That is the lowest loft QS I have so I hope it works for a couple more years.

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14 hours ago, GT1885 said:

I know it's probably my swing but my titleist hybrids (early model) hook like crazy (right handed golfer here). I don't have that problem hitting the equal in an iron so just hoping that there is a hybrid out there doesn't always make a hard left.

I would like at hybrid’s with adjustable hosels that have a flat setting (Titelist, Ping, PXG) or ones that have movable weights ( Titelist TSI3 and TSR3, Cobra King Tech, PXG). If you really struggle then one with both (Titelist or PXG) will give you the ability to try which works better for you or both for the most anti hook setup you can get. I will note the PXG can go all the way to 3 degrees flat as the Titelist can only go one. Thought the Titelist does have the ability to adjust loft and lie separately which is nice. I personally just purchased a used PXG 0317 Gen 2 used hybrids as even in the standard setting I was not missing left as much as others I tested. Now I will try out the weights and lie settings at the rang to see what’s better for me. 

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A hybrid that doesn't hook for you may actually be a higher lofted fairway wood. That was the solution for me for a long time, using fairways instead of hybrids. 

Then some lessons fixed what was causing hybrids to hook, and now my 5h is one of my favorite clubs 🙂 

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I have had issues with hooking hybrids in the past as well.  My Mizuno CLK hybrids are very consistent, I am very happy with them.  I also have a PXG Gen 2 hybrid that tends to miss to the right which I have never seen out of a hybrid before.

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I have always had the same issue with hybrids.  I put some lead tape on the toe and it helped a lot.  Much of that result may be psychological though...

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

I had the same issue with my hybrid. Went to a fitter and after trying many different models, shafts, loft/lie settings etc. Ended up with the Callaway UW. Could still turn it over but the spin was lower and didn’t have to worry about the 30 yard hook. 

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I have a PXG 0211 19 hybrid with a stiff MMT shaft.  I also own some other 19 degree hybrids including a Ping g410.  The PXG is by far the hardest for me to turn over.  It likes to go right, completely unlike my other hybrids that can sometime be hook machines.  

Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 9 degree Fubuki stiff shaft. 

XXIO 3 wood 

XXIO 20 degree 4 hybrid

XXIO 23 degree 5 hybrid

PXG 0211 DC 6 thru GW MMT stiff shafts

PXG 0211 DC 54 degree sand wedge MMT shaft

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Last year during my fitting, I was handed a PING G425 in the flat setting.  It was the most anti left hybrid I’ve ever hit.  And it was an absolute bomber.

They have two different flat settings too, I could have went to the BIG - and probably had a fade machine.

I assume that the new version is very similar.

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12 hours ago, Shankster said:

Last year during my fitting, I was handed a PING G425 in the flat setting.  It was the most anti left hybrid I’ve ever hit.  And it was an absolute bomber.

They have two different flat settings too, I could have went to the BIG - and probably had a fade machine.

I assume that the new version is very similar.

Interesting - should try this out next time I'm in a store.....never been a PING guy.

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I am a big fan of the Titleist hybrids and the Callaway hybrids seem to perform well for me during MGS most wanted testing.   I find that when I am hitting my hybrids left,  it is more that I am setting up with a closed face than anything else.   

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Callaway 2016 Apex, or the Apex Pro in more recent releases. Upgrade stock shaft to something heavier to keep the path from getting left. At least 85 grams, but dont be afraid of 95-105. That might allow you to cut 1/4 or 1/2 off the shaft which make the lie flatter as well. Or had some headweight. Heavier, shorter, flatter is the recipe. 

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On 3/21/2023 at 3:58 PM, GT1885 said:

I know it's probably my swing but my titleist hybrids (early model) hook like crazy (right handed golfer here). I don't have that problem hitting the equal in an iron so just hoping that there is a hybrid out there doesn't always make a hard left.

 

On 4/8/2023 at 4:56 AM, 03trdblack said:

Cobra King Tec hybrid and slap the heavy weight into the toe. 

Following up on @03trdblack, The Cobra King Tec Hybrid is the droid you're looking for. I also own a Callaway Apex Pro Hybrid which has virtually no offset, but the Forged Tec gives you more optionality to find the flight you are trying to achieve.

You have two major options to take the hook off the table:

  1. You can move the heavy weight into the fade setting.
  2. You can adjust the hosel to actually put the toe down so it's less upright. 

I don't hit hybrid every round (too much spin during windy days), but when I do, it's always my Forged Tec. It also helps that it looks fly as hell! 

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Yep, the king tec is a good solution. If you want to save money, the Adams red and put the weight in the toe is the same idea. I have a red pro titanium 20 degree, which seems kinda rare, but its a fantastic club with a larger profile. The typical red seen below is a smaller profile but just as long as current hybrids and you can get one like new with a Matrix Tour shaft for $50 or so. They used very good shafts with these as it was the last hybrid adams put out. It was aimed towards better players who like to shape their shot, but its very hard to turn over with the toe weight in place. 

 

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Driver Adams Idea with with Ventus Red TR stiff

3 Wood : Honma TR21 Big LB 14* w Fujikura Motore F1 70 Stiff

7 Wood: Great Big Bertha B23 w Adila RIP Gamma 60 stiff

5 Hybrid : Honma TW XP-1 25* w Vizard 65 stiff

Utility Iron: Honma TR21x 5 23* w MMT 85 stiff

6-gw Matlby TS3 w MMT 85 stiff

52* / 58* Vokey SM7 w Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

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Several years ago I did a forum test the Ben Hogan VKTR hybrids against my TM RBZ hybrids.  I have never had a problem going left with any club; my usual shot is straight with maybe a slight fade.  I could not get the Hogan to go straight; always sliced.  So if you can find a used one, it might be a fit for you, and the price might be right.  I ended up giving the Hogan hybrids to my BIL who does hook and he loved them... still plays them.

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