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WEEK 27 - MYGOLFSPY FORUM MEMBER Virtual Weekly Championship Tour (WVCT)

Tournament Dates: 03/27/2023 - 04/03/2023

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March 27 through April 3
Pos. Player Course Name Gross Score Course Handicap Gross Strokes over/under par Net Score to Par Net Score
1 Silverado 78 11 7 -4 67
T2 Key West Golf Club 84 13 14 1 71
T2 Preserve/Landing 83 9 10 1 74
T2 West Lothian Golf Club 71 6 7 1 65
T2 Key West Golf Club 84 13 14 1 71
T2 lake Hefner Golf Club - North 74 1 2 1 73
T7 Scepter Ibis/Osprey 90 16 18 2 74
T7 Surrey Hills 75 2 4 2 73
T7 Willow Fork CC 77 3 5 2 74
T7 Sandridge Golf Club LAKES Course 78 4 6 2 74
T11 Heritage Isles 84 9 12 3 75
T11 Heritage Isles 84 9 12 3 75
T11 Timber Creek (Pines/Creekside) 79 5 8 3 74
T11 Werribee Park Golf Club 81 6 9 3 75
T11 Glendoveer G&TC East Course 111 36 39 3 75
T16 West Lothian Golf Club 74 6 10 4 68
T16 Concordia GC 88 13 17 4 75
T16 Indian River Club 80 4 8 4 76
T16 Curlewis 82 7 11 4 75
T16 Durango Hills 82 20 24 4 62
T21 Angel Park Palm 99 24 29 5 75
T21 Fort Walton Beach - The Pines 80 3 8 5 77
T21 Pine Brook GC 75 9 14 5 66
T21 Surrey Hills 76 0 5 5 76
25 Columbia Point GC 83 5 11 6 78
T26 Silverado 89 11 18 7 78
T26 William F Larkin GC at Colonial Terrace 84 7 14 7 77
T26 Mountain View GC 88 9 16 7 79
T29 Heritage Isles 89 9 17 8 80
T29 Cedar Creek GC 96 16 24 8 80
T31 Red Tail 125 44 53 9 81
T31 Lakewood CC 92 11 20 9 81
T31 Macdonald Golf Course 106 25 34 9 81

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Date 03/31/2023
Course Name Willow Fork CC
Gross Score 77
Course Handicap 3
Gross Strokes over/under par 5
Net Score to Par 2
Net Score 74
Net Birdies or better 3
Longest Drive 290

Played pretty well today, had about a 60 footer drop for birdie, then birdied the Par 5 #18 with a kick in.  Was a bit windy so that made it a little more challenging than normal.  Hope to play 1 or 2 more times this weekend. 

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1 hour ago, richk9holes said:

Question for those who post here, what do we do in the case of mulligans? Not trying to get anyone to self-incriminate, lol but generally speaking would "one" be keeping these scores strictly tournament setting with imaginary rules official? Breakfast ball off the 1st tee? 1st and 10th? 

Dropping a 2nd ball after a skulled wedge shot today was my boner mulligan moment. I scored it as a 9 to err on the side of morality, but should I have given myself the bogey I made with the 2nd approach?

How you handle your mulligans is between you and your conscious since we are a friendly and honor system game here 🙂.  As the Tour Commissioner.. I officially say, no mulligans or breakfast balls (that is the rules of golf per the USGA and World Handicap System/GHIN Guidelines).  How you (or the other Virtual Competitors) chooses to sleep at night... is up to you 😉 .  

It's a good question Rich, thanks for asking.  I know a lot of players use a breakfast ball in their friendly game at the home course (my Sunday group allows it).  I can't speak for the others on these virtual threads, but I only hit one ball off the first tee. 

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14 hours ago, Alf. S said:

To add to the praise from the group to @Golfspy_TCB, really enjoy competing in this and has probably kept me completing rounds when I would have NR'd or packed in so that I can record a score. Thanks

Thank you Alf, I really appreciate your comments, but even more... your participation in the weekly threads.  Love seeing your, and all the other member scores come in each week!

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On 3/30/2023 at 4:47 PM, daviddvm said:
Date 03/30/2023
Course Name Timber Creek (Pines/Creekside)
Gross Score 79
Course Handicap 5
Gross Strokes over/under par 8
Net Score to Par 3
Net Score 74
Net Birdies or better 6
Longest Drive 261

When does the next season start? I'm looking forward to participating.

Season 2 starts on Monday... MASTERS WEEK BABY!!!  

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2 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

How you handle your mulligans is between you and your conscious since we are a friendly and honor system game here 🙂.  As the Tour Commissioner.. I officially say, no mulligans or breakfast balls (that is the rules of golf per the USGA and World Handicap System/GHIN Guidelines).  How you (or the other Virtual Competitors) chooses to sleep at night... is up to you 😉 .  

It's a good question Rich, thanks for asking.  I know a lot of players use a breakfast ball in their friendly game at the home course (my Sunday group allows it).  I can't speak for the others on these virtual threads, but I only hit one ball off the first tee. 

Ty for the reply, I'm fine with playing it strict. I know some rounds if I'm competing with my father, he'll say "hit another one" and I would probably card the 5 in that instance. He does the same for himself and I'm trying to beat him, haha. 

What I'd do in the past with a round I took a breakfast ball for a 2nd shot along the line for the sake of pace is just not count that scorecard, but I want to post all my rounds here to try to get to 30 scores in the thread this week.

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On 3/29/2023 at 12:33 PM, snicerz said:
Date 03/27/2023
Course Name Surrey Hills
Gross Score 75
Course Handicap 2
Gross Strokes over/under par 4
Net Score to Par 2
Net Score 73
Net Birdies or better 3
Longest Drive 302

Not my best outing. #12. . . there's a story here. Started out with a great drive (non-wind assisted), right down the middle of the fairway. Not sure what happened next but I managed to blade my 2nd shot. In the image below, you can see that it went "long". There's more but I'll get to that in a minute. A bad chip from a very downhill lie put in position to 2 putt for a bogey.

Back to my 2nd shot. The marker in the image is just where the ball found it's resting place. Somehow, I managed to send this in to the road behind the green, bounce the ball off of a water spigot in the small garden found in the median, and take a number of hops in the road before making its way back in play. It was definitely a show and will be something I won't forget anytime soon.

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Oh man Snicerz... I was rolling reading through your post... I SO wishi I could have seen that hole play out in person.  The water spigot is the best part!  I hope you can find some humor in it... I did!! 🙂  Golf is a humbling game, isn't it??

 

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2 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

Season 2 starts on Monday... MASTERS WEEK BABY!!!  

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Love this thread, can't wait to play and post next week!  Thanks for all you do Golfspy_TCB 👏

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Date 03/30/2023
Course Name Glendoveer G&TC East Course
Gross Score 111
Course Handicap 36
Gross Strokes over/under par 39
Net Score to Par 3
Net Score 75
Net Birdies or better 5
Longest Drive 197

Two front 9 rounds on the East side as they had the back 40 closed for sanding.  Not great as they had punched the front 9 on Monday.  Still a bit sandy and putting didn't do exactly what was expected, but did straighten out some of the break.  My playing partner hit a 62' putt on #4 over a lump.

Second half didn't come together.  You'd thing playing the same side a second time should be easier...

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1 minute ago, richk9holes said:

Ty for the reply, I'm fine with playing it strict. I know some rounds if I'm competing with my father, he'll say "hit another one" and I would probably card the 5 in that instance. He does the same for himself and I'm trying to beat him, haha. 

What I'd do in the past with a round I took a breakfast ball for a 2nd shot along the line for the sake of pace is just not count that scorecard, but I want to post all my rounds here to try to get to 30 scores in the thread this week.

I REALLY appreciate you posting all your rounds here.  I believe we are all posting genuine and realistic scores, and your descriptions in your posts tells me you err on the side of penalizing yourself anyway. 

My response was a bit tongue in cheek about being able to sleep at night, it may not have come across that way.  Play your game and post your scores... we are all here to share in the fun game of golf and I'm glad this thread gives us a way to have some camaraderie across the miles.  It really isn't about who won or lost (except for @snicerz who continues to punish golf balls into submission every week. haha!!).  But seriously, we are here for the fun of golf.  I would never tell anyone to be so strict to the rules that it takes the enjoyment out of this great game, or keeps you from sharing your round on this thread.. 

There is a time and place for a rules committee and disqualifications for breaking the rules of golf... this forum and this competition isn't one of them 🙂 

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9 minutes ago, richk9holes said:

Ty for the reply, I'm fine with playing it strict. I know some rounds if I'm competing with my father, he'll say "hit another one" and I would probably card the 5 in that instance. He does the same for himself and I'm trying to beat him, haha. 

What I'd do in the past with a round I took a breakfast ball for a 2nd shot along the line for the sake of pace is just not count that scorecard, but I want to post all my rounds here to try to get to 30 scores in the thread this week.

by the way, I clicked on the "laugh" emoji because of your comment about playing against your Dad and trying to beat him... I totally get that!  What is good for the goose...haha.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Mushball said:
Date 03/30/2023
Course Name Glendoveer G&TC East Course
Gross Score 111
Course Handicap 36
Gross Strokes over/under par 39
Net Score to Par 3
Net Score 75
Net Birdies or better 5
Longest Drive 197

Two front 9 rounds on the East side as they had the back 40 closed for sanding.  Not great as they had punched the front 9 on Monday.  Still a bit sandy and putting didn't do exactly what was expected, but did straighten out some of the break.  My playing partner hit a 62' putt on #4 over a lump.

Second half didn't come together.  You'd thing playing the same side a second time should be easier...

I would even go as far as to say... it is almost NEVER easier.  From my recollection.. The the front at Glen East is a challenge to play once, let alone twice the same day!!  I played in the Mid-Am Qualifier there many moons ago... I believe I had played my way out of it by the 4th hole.  haha.

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On 3/30/2023 at 5:09 PM, GaryF said:
Date 03/30/2023
Course Name Preserve/Landing
Gross Score 83
Course Handicap 9
Gross Strokes over/under par 10
Net Score to Par 1
Net Score 74
Net Birdies or better 2
Longest Drive 230

I don’t remember if it’s permissible to post a combined two 9 hole rounds.  If not then delete.  13/14 FIRs, only 6 GIRs, 3 U/D, 2 3-putts and missed a couple 4 footers otherwise could have been decent. 

I'm planning to do this 2moro if I have time. I think we should count them, more rounds posted. 

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On 3/30/2023 at 2:09 PM, GaryF said:

I don’t remember if it’s permissible to post a combined two 9 hole rounds.  If not then delete.  13/14 FIRs, only 6 GIRs, 3 U/D, 2 3-putts and missed a couple 4 footers otherwise could have been decent. 

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Mushball said:
Date 03/30/2023
Course Name Glendoveer G&TC East Course
Gross Score 111
Course Handicap 36
Gross Strokes over/under par 39
Net Score to Par 3
Net Score 75
Net Birdies or better 5
Longest Drive 197

Two front 9 rounds on the East side as they had the back 40 closed for sanding.  Not great as they had punched the front 9 on Monday.  Still a bit sandy and putting didn't do exactly what was expected, but did straighten out some of the break.  My playing partner hit a 62' putt on #4 over a lump.

Second half didn't come together.  You'd thing playing the same side a second time should be easier...

@Kenny B this would be the example I can think of, there's times some small courses near me will close 1/2 at a time for renovation.

The one I'm playing tomorrow is a par 35, 9 holes, so I planned on doing it twice if I get around quickly the 1st time. In that case the slope is the same for each 9 and i'll double the rating.

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4 minutes ago, richk9holes said:

@Kenny B this would be the example I can think of, there's times some small courses near me will close 1/2 at a time for renovation.

The one I'm playing tomorrow is a par 35, 9 holes, so I planned on doing it twice if I get around quickly the 1st time. In that case the slope is the same for each 9 and i'll double the rating.

Yeah, that I understand.  I used to play at a 9-hole exec course and posted each nine hole scores and GHIN combined them  I did the same at my current course but I had to play each nine to combine them; GHIN asked if I played the front or back.  As crowded as my course is now after covid, I have to make a tee time or join someone on the 1st tee.  There are really no options to go off the back nine.  I’ve played our front nine maybe 10 times already this year, but have yet to play a 9 hole round on the back nine.

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1 hour ago, Kenny B said:

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

If it shouldn’t count then fine.  However, GHIN gives me the 9 hole course handicap for each front 9 segment (4 and 5) and GHIN does combine the 2 into an 18 hole total. NP if it doesn’t count.
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15 hours ago, richk9holes said:

Question for those who post here, what do we do in the case of mulligans? Not trying to get anyone to self-incriminate, lol but generally speaking would "one" be keeping these scores strictly tournament setting with imaginary rules official? Breakfast ball off the 1st tee? 1st and 10th? 

Dropping a 2nd ball after a skulled wedge shot today was my boner mulligan moment. I scored it as a 9 to err on the side of morality, but should I have given myself the bogey I made with the 2nd approach?

My 2 cents and that's all its worth as I don't and won't have a score this week. First ball score only. I appreciate you counting the 9 as the correct score. We should be playing tourney style, No breakfast ball. Dropping a second ball should be a penalty.. 

 

I play straight up and my score is what it is. I count everything. Now this all said, I don't have a problem with dropping a ball and hitting a second shot or B-fast ball it just shouldn't;t count on your score unless you actually use it then count it up. Hope that makes sense. 

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12 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

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47 minutes ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

I did this for a round last week. I played solo sent off #10. Played the back 9 from white tees. When I got back around 2 people were going off #1 I joined them to play the blue tees on the front. When calculating course handicap I averaged the blue/white numbers for rating/slope.

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50 minutes ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

I just realized you were talking about a 9 hole course. Different scenario than the one I referenced. I played 18 different holes from blended tees.

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12 hours ago, GaryF said:

If it shouldn’t count then fine.  However, GHIN gives me the 9 hole course handicap for each front 9 segment (4 and 5) and GHIN does combine the 2 into an 18 hole total. NP if it doesn’t count.
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Do I need to delete my score @Golfspy_TCB? GHIN does give me separate 9 hole course handicap’s based on the tees I play and does the math to combine the scores. 

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Course Name William F Larkin GC at Colonial Terrace
Gross Score 84
Course Handicap 7
Gross Strokes over/under par 14
Net Score to Par 7
Net Score 77
Net Birdies or better 2
Longest Drive 220

Played this 9 hole course twice, white tees then blue. Course Handicap is 3 from white, 4 from blue, so I used 7 for the 18 hole score. I hit the ball well enough to score that, but ended up +7 to net due to bad putting and some miss hits inside 30y. Had a chip in eagle on a par 5 that was the highlight. Triple on #9 to card 43 on the front was the lowlight.

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7 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

A 9 hole course will have ratings for each set of tees, so combining two rounds to 18 holes can be calculated.  An 18 hole course doesn't have separate ratings for each 9 holes, so 9 holes can only be combined if you play front 9 and back 9.  I never get a chance to play our back 9, so I don't ever keep an official score when I just play the front 9.

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23 hours ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

I would even go as far as to say... it is almost NEVER easier.  From my recollection.. The the front at Glen East is a challenge to play once, let alone twice the same day!!  I played in the Mid-Am Qualifier there many moons ago... I believe I had played my way out of it by the 4th hole.  haha.

4 is tough, but not as tough as 7.  The first time through I achieved a milestone and got with 120 yrds on my second shot.  It is a long slog uphill to a dogleg right.  Pretty open at the top, but if you leave yourself wrong it's an extra shot in.  The hill is about 60'(?) high.  I myself can't drive far enough to reach the top, but got 15' below the crest on my first drive.  4w took me to 120, then I flailed. 

I had an @snicerz moment on #3 on the 2nd trip.  It's a par 3 over water, and I mishit and pushed my 9 left to the black tees on #4.  Ok, cool, I'll do a nice punch over the cart path, hit the rough to slow it down. The green slopes steeply to the water, it isn't a friendly green, especially from the top.  Hit it a bit low (topped) and hit the face of the opposite cart path curb, which kicks it even further up the tee box on #4.  Sheesh.

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23 hours ago, richk9holes said:

I'm planning to do this 2moro if I have time. I think we should count them, more rounds posted. 

Yep, two combined 9s are all good.  Just calculate the CH for the combined course.  There are guides and calculators if you need them.

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9 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

I played a course in Porto, Portugal that only had 6 holes.  Three tees set at different distances.  You played once off of each set for a full 18.  Kinda fun short course setup.  I think as long as you calculate the combined slope/rating for your course handicap it should be legit.

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22 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

I know that not everyone uses GHIN, but they have a feature on the website that you can select your course, and 9 holes, and which side... so if you play the same side twice, you would just use that same course handicap x2.  at least that is what I do.  For example, my current handicap is a 3.3.  18 hole course handicap is a 4.  front nine course handicap is a 1, back nine course handicap is a 2.  If I play the front nine twice... course handicap would be a 2.  back nine twice - course handicap would be a 4.  At least that is my approach.  I don't know the exact math on why the front nine handicap and the back nine handicap don't add up to my 18 hole course handicap.. but I am operating on the basis that there are a lot of people smarter than me, and they have thought of things I could never imagine.  haha. 

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20 hours ago, GaryF said:

If it shouldn’t count then fine.  However, GHIN gives me the 9 hole course handicap for each front 9 segment (4 and 5) and GHIN does combine the 2 into an 18 hole total. NP if it doesn’t count.
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I responded before seeing your note Gary.  Yes, I agree, and said so in a response that I didn't realize I was responding to.  haha.  

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25 minutes ago, Mr. Mushball said:

I played a course in Porto, Portugal that only had 6 holes.  Three tees set at different distances.  You played once off of each set for a full 18.  Kinda fun short course setup.  I think as long as you calculate the combined slope/rating for your course handicap it should be legit.

I've thought about this as a concept for people who want a course in restricted space. A massive green with 3 holes and multiple fairways leading into it, then multiple tee boxes on each of the 3 cart paths leading into that say 85' by 35' green.

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1 hour ago, Kenny B said:

A 9 hole course will have ratings for each set of tees, so combining two rounds to 18 holes can be calculated.  An 18 hole course doesn't have separate ratings for each 9 holes, so 9 holes can only be combined if you play front 9 and back 9.  I never get a chance to play our back 9, so I don't ever keep an official score when I just play the front 9.

Again this may be specific to GHIN, and may not be available on the phone app, but the web offers the ability to select the course, the number of holes, which tees and which nine.

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In the above, I have selected my course.  selected 9 holes (top arrow). the tees (this is a little confusing because the Men's White's are called "Back" and in parentheses is which nine... I selected the front nine for this example).  It gives you the course handicap to use for playing only the front nine from those tees.  If I play the front twice... my course handicap is a 2. 

@GaryF if this is the methodology you used, I think your scores are accurate for the leaderboard. 

Hope that helps clarify.

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