WEEK 27 - MYGOLFSPY FORUM MEMBER Virtual Weekly Championship Tour (WVCT)

[GolfSpy TCB]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Mushball said:

Date	03/30/2023
Course Name	Glendoveer G&TC East Course
Gross Score	111
Course Handicap	36
Gross Strokes over/under par	39
Net Score to Par	3
Net Score	75
Net Birdies or better	5
Longest Drive	197

Two front 9 rounds on the East side as they had the back 40 closed for sanding.  Not great as they had punched the front 9 on Monday.  Still a bit sandy and putting didn't do exactly what was expected, but did straighten out some of the break.  My playing partner hit a 62' putt on #4 over a lump.

Second half didn't come together.  You'd thing playing the same side a second time should be easier...

I would even go as far as to say... it is almost NEVER easier.  From my recollection.. The the front at Glen East is a challenge to play once, let alone twice the same day!!  I played in the Mid-Am Qualifier there many moons ago... I believe I had played my way out of it by the 4th hole.  haha.

[richk9holes]

On 3/30/2023 at 5:09 PM, GaryF said:

Date	03/30/2023
Course Name	Preserve/Landing
Gross Score	83
Course Handicap	9
Gross Strokes over/under par	10
Net Score to Par	1
Net Score	74
Net Birdies or better	2
Longest Drive	230

I don’t remember if it’s permissible to post a combined two 9 hole rounds.  If not then delete.  13/14 FIRs, only 6 GIRs, 3 U/D, 2 3-putts and missed a couple 4 footers otherwise could have been decent. 

I'm planning to do this 2moro if I have time. I think we should count them, more rounds posted. 

[Kenny B]

On 3/30/2023 at 2:09 PM, GaryF said:

I don’t remember if it’s permissible to post a combined two 9 hole rounds.  If not then delete.  13/14 FIRs, only 6 GIRs, 3 U/D, 2 3-putts and missed a couple 4 footers otherwise could have been decent. 

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

[richk9holes]

2 hours ago, Mr. Mushball said:

Date	03/30/2023
Course Name	Glendoveer G&TC East Course
Gross Score	111
Course Handicap	36
Gross Strokes over/under par	39
Net Score to Par	3
Net Score	75
Net Birdies or better	5
Longest Drive	197

Two front 9 rounds on the East side as they had the back 40 closed for sanding.  Not great as they had punched the front 9 on Monday.  Still a bit sandy and putting didn't do exactly what was expected, but did straighten out some of the break.  My playing partner hit a 62' putt on #4 over a lump.

Second half didn't come together.  You'd thing playing the same side a second time should be easier...

@Kenny B this would be the example I can think of, there's times some small courses near me will close 1/2 at a time for renovation.

The one I'm playing tomorrow is a par 35, 9 holes, so I planned on doing it twice if I get around quickly the 1st time. In that case the slope is the same for each 9 and i'll double the rating.

[Kenny B]

4 minutes ago, richk9holes said:

@Kenny B this would be the example I can think of, there's times some small courses near me will close 1/2 at a time for renovation.

The one I'm playing tomorrow is a par 35, 9 holes, so I planned on doing it twice if I get around quickly the 1st time. In that case the slope is the same for each 9 and i'll double the rating.

Yeah, that I understand.  I used to play at a 9-hole exec course and posted each nine hole scores and GHIN combined them  I did the same at my current course but I had to play each nine to combine them; GHIN asked if I played the front or back.  As crowded as my course is now after covid, I have to make a tee time or join someone on the 1st tee.  There are really no options to go off the back nine.  I’ve played our front nine maybe 10 times already this year, but have yet to play a 9 hole round on the back nine.

[GaryF]

1 hour ago, Kenny B said:

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

If it shouldn’t count then fine.  However, GHIN gives me the 9 hole course handicap for each front 9 segment (4 and 5) and GHIN does combine the 2 into an 18 hole total. NP if it doesn’t count.

Edited April 1 by GaryF

[JFish350]

15 hours ago, richk9holes said:

Question for those who post here, what do we do in the case of mulligans? Not trying to get anyone to self-incriminate, lol but generally speaking would "one" be keeping these scores strictly tournament setting with imaginary rules official? Breakfast ball off the 1st tee? 1st and 10th? 

Dropping a 2nd ball after a skulled wedge shot today was my boner mulligan moment. I scored it as a 9 to err on the side of morality, but should I have given myself the bogey I made with the 2nd approach?

My 2 cents and that's all its worth as I don't and won't have a score this week. First ball score only. I appreciate you counting the 9 as the correct score. We should be playing tourney style, No breakfast ball. Dropping a second ball should be a penalty.. 

 

I play straight up and my score is what it is. I count everything. Now this all said, I don't have a problem with dropping a ball and hitting a second shot or B-fast ball it just shouldn't;t count on your score unless you actually use it then count it up. Hope that makes sense. 

[JFish350]

12 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

[richk9holes]

47 minutes ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

I did this for a round last week. I played solo sent off #10. Played the back 9 from white tees. When I got back around 2 people were going off #1 I joined them to play the blue tees on the front. When calculating course handicap I averaged the blue/white numbers for rating/slope.

[richk9holes]

50 minutes ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

I just realized you were talking about a 9 hole course. Different scenario than the one I referenced. I played 18 different holes from blended tees.

[GaryF]

12 hours ago, GaryF said:

If it shouldn’t count then fine.  However, GHIN gives me the 9 hole course handicap for each front 9 segment (4 and 5) and GHIN does combine the 2 into an 18 hole total. NP if it doesn’t count.

Do I need to delete my score @Golfspy_TCB? GHIN does give me separate 9 hole course handicap’s based on the tees I play and does the math to combine the scores. 

[richk9holes]

Date	04/01/2023
Course Name	William F Larkin GC at Colonial Terrace
Gross Score	84
Course Handicap	7
Gross Strokes over/under par	14
Net Score to Par	7
Net Score	77
Net Birdies or better	2
Longest Drive	220

Played this 9 hole course twice, white tees then blue. Course Handicap is 3 from white, 4 from blue, so I used 7 for the 18 hole score. I hit the ball well enough to score that, but ended up +7 to net due to bad putting and some miss hits inside 30y. Had a chip in eagle on a par 5 that was the highlight. Triple on #9 to card 43 on the front was the lowlight.

[Kenny B]

7 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

A 9 hole course will have ratings for each set of tees, so combining two rounds to 18 holes can be calculated.  An 18 hole course doesn't have separate ratings for each 9 holes, so 9 holes can only be combined if you play front 9 and back 9.  I never get a chance to play our back 9, so I don't ever keep an official score when I just play the front 9.

[Mr. Mushball]

23 hours ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

I would even go as far as to say... it is almost NEVER easier.  From my recollection.. The the front at Glen East is a challenge to play once, let alone twice the same day!!  I played in the Mid-Am Qualifier there many moons ago... I believe I had played my way out of it by the 4th hole.  haha.

4 is tough, but not as tough as 7.  The first time through I achieved a milestone and got with 120 yrds on my second shot.  It is a long slog uphill to a dogleg right.  Pretty open at the top, but if you leave yourself wrong it's an extra shot in.  The hill is about 60'(?) high.  I myself can't drive far enough to reach the top, but got 15' below the crest on my first drive.  4w took me to 120, then I flailed. 

I had an @snicerz moment on #3 on the 2nd trip.  It's a par 3 over water, and I mishit and pushed my 9 left to the black tees on #4.  Ok, cool, I'll do a nice punch over the cart path, hit the rough to slow it down. The green slopes steeply to the water, it isn't a friendly green, especially from the top.  Hit it a bit low (topped) and hit the face of the opposite cart path curb, which kicks it even further up the tee box on #4.  Sheesh.

[Mr. Mushball]

23 hours ago, richk9holes said:

I'm planning to do this 2moro if I have time. I think we should count them, more rounds posted. 

Yep, two combined 9s are all good.  Just calculate the CH for the combined course.  There are guides and calculators if you need them.

[Mr. Mushball]

9 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Could a  person play different tee boxes, White front Blue on the back or vise versa. 

We have a 9 hole course here (Sunset Grove) with only 2 tee box options for this reason. 

I played a course in Porto, Portugal that only had 6 holes.  Three tees set at different distances.  You played once off of each set for a full 18.  Kinda fun short course setup.  I think as long as you calculate the combined slope/rating for your course handicap it should be legit.

[GolfSpy TCB]

22 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I always thought that two 9 hole scores could be combined only IF you played both the front nine and the back nine.  I don’t know how you would combine two front nine or two back nine scores.  What rating/slope would you use?

In my case the front nine is par 37 and back nine is par 35.

I know that not everyone uses GHIN, but they have a feature on the website that you can select your course, and 9 holes, and which side... so if you play the same side twice, you would just use that same course handicap x2.  at least that is what I do.  For example, my current handicap is a 3.3.  18 hole course handicap is a 4.  front nine course handicap is a 1, back nine course handicap is a 2.  If I play the front nine twice... course handicap would be a 2.  back nine twice - course handicap would be a 4.  At least that is my approach.  I don't know the exact math on why the front nine handicap and the back nine handicap don't add up to my 18 hole course handicap.. but I am operating on the basis that there are a lot of people smarter than me, and they have thought of things I could never imagine.  haha. 

[GolfSpy TCB]

20 hours ago, GaryF said:

If it shouldn’t count then fine.  However, GHIN gives me the 9 hole course handicap for each front 9 segment (4 and 5) and GHIN does combine the 2 into an 18 hole total. NP if it doesn’t count.

I responded before seeing your note Gary.  Yes, I agree, and said so in a response that I didn't realize I was responding to.  haha.  

[richk9holes]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Mushball said:

I played a course in Porto, Portugal that only had 6 holes.  Three tees set at different distances.  You played once off of each set for a full 18.  Kinda fun short course setup.  I think as long as you calculate the combined slope/rating for your course handicap it should be legit.

I've thought about this as a concept for people who want a course in restricted space. A massive green with 3 holes and multiple fairways leading into it, then multiple tee boxes on each of the 3 cart paths leading into that say 85' by 35' green.

[GolfSpy TCB]

1 hour ago, Kenny B said:

A 9 hole course will have ratings for each set of tees, so combining two rounds to 18 holes can be calculated.  An 18 hole course doesn't have separate ratings for each 9 holes, so 9 holes can only be combined if you play front 9 and back 9.  I never get a chance to play our back 9, so I don't ever keep an official score when I just play the front 9.

Again this may be specific to GHIN, and may not be available on the phone app, but the web offers the ability to select the course, the number of holes, which tees and which nine.

In the above, I have selected my course.  selected 9 holes (top arrow). the tees (this is a little confusing because the Men's White's are called "Back" and in parentheses is which nine... I selected the front nine for this example).  It gives you the course handicap to use for playing only the front nine from those tees.  If I play the front twice... my course handicap is a 2. 

@GaryF if this is the methodology you used, I think your scores are accurate for the leaderboard. 

Hope that helps clarify.